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To: billhilly

You're probably right, but I guess I'm rather passionate about the lives of these fine soldiers and, if there's a good reason for putting them in the kind of position they were in to be ambushed, I wish I knew it.


11 posted on 07/27/2006 7:13:54 PM PDT by JewishRighter
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To: JewishRighter

Do you mind me asking how old you are?


12 posted on 07/27/2006 7:16:45 PM PDT by billhilly
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To: JewishRighter

Freedom is a very valuable commodity. But unless it is re-purchased be each ensuing generation or it will lose its value. Those young men are buying freedom for the next generation.
We, here in the U.S. no longer value it, preferring our football, beer and fast cars. Sadly, unless we regain our senses, we will lose all those comforts we so foolishly treasure.
For all the years there have been people, there have been wars. In each of those wars young men have sacrificed their lives for purposes that seemed - to others - foolish. It will go on until there are no more people. I believe it was Plato who said "only the dead have seen the end of war."


22 posted on 07/27/2006 7:30:08 PM PDT by oldfart (The most dangerous man is the one who has nothing left to lose.)
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To: JewishRighter

Sometimes/most times command doesn't know it's putting their men in an ambush.
Remember in every battle the enemy gets a vote.


47 posted on 07/27/2006 9:33:38 PM PDT by Valin (http://www.irey.com/)
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To: JewishRighter
You're probably right, but I guess I'm rather passionate about the lives of these fine soldiers and, if there's a good reason for putting them in the kind of position they were in to be ambushed, I wish I knew it.

The Hizbollah fighters had years to obey the first part of the old American Civil War maxim, "Git thar fustest with the mostest" -- whatever terrain or buildings were there to work with, they were there first and were able to dispose their people to take advantage.

I'll leave to experienced infantry commanders the debate about how much "prep" with artillery, large blast weapons, area antipersonnel weapons, or whatever, might have helped the Israelis in their one-down position going on the assault against long-prepared positions.

For what it's worth, America's best general got it wrong, too. Robert E. Lee learned in Mexico that it is possible for columns of infantry to advance over long, open stretches of unfavorable, sloping ground against prepared positions defended by artillery. That worked in Mexico against slow-firing Mexican batteries. It has never worked since. It cost Lee a war.

58 posted on 07/28/2006 12:49:47 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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You assuem perfect conditions can be obtained. Not so. The very nature of war involves unknown perils.

The best defense is good training to absorb and react. That is what the article is all about.


76 posted on 07/28/2006 7:17:34 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. Slay Pinch)
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