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Science Fiction has become a poisoned well . .
7-27-06 | Marc Costanzo

Posted on 07/27/2006 6:49:43 PM PDT by marc costanzo

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To: marc costanzo

Sounds more than reasonable, to me.


61 posted on 07/27/2006 7:26:52 PM PDT by Quix (BIBLE says it's coming; prophecies indicate our era; Shrillery is eager; Global tyrannical gov looms)
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To: thescourged1
My point is that Compassion is rammed down our throats by TV sci-fi just like Tolerance - -

That is the Totalitarian nature of this genre, they are always shoving PC down out throats .

Science is not about Compassion nor Tolerance,
it is the process of discovery, it is detective work .

You do not find that on TV, no X-FILEs does not count, it advocates pseudoscience - Fox offers the supernatural explanation, Scully offers the Scientific rational one, and she is invariably wrong - -

X-FILE's is poison . It is everything that is wrong with this genre; paranoid, fatalistic, antiAmerican, made in Canada !

Should call this series and all those like it: Oliver Stone Fiction .

I have noticed alot of TV sci-fi revolves around the JFK conspiracy angle . .

POISON !
62 posted on 07/27/2006 7:27:09 PM PDT by marc costanzo (Strength & Honor)
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To: marc costanzo
The Kzin were featured in the 1973 animated version of Star Trek

Ugh, I feel round teeth chewing yellow plants.

63 posted on 07/27/2006 7:28:07 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (999-TNS)
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To: Perdogg

Heinlein was one of a kind. The best, period.


64 posted on 07/27/2006 7:29:02 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: marc costanzo

I thought Lexx ended in 2002.


65 posted on 07/27/2006 7:29:19 PM PDT by LdSentinal
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To: marc costanzo

I have a huge collection of older sci-fi. Nothing current has been much worth reading , imo. I love the old stuff.


66 posted on 07/27/2006 7:29:41 PM PDT by TheLion
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To: Sofa King

Dystopian works can be very good if they're thoughtful. The problem isn't that too much science fiction is dystopian, but that it's thoughtlessly so. It's all just "oooo... here's a future filled with big ol' mean corporations". You could pick out a hundred of them that combined don't have anything as thought-provoking as your average 10 pages of 1984.<<

Yes, but ven George Orwell was guilty of anti-Americanism:
"these damn Yanks are turning our Britain into their very own Airstrip-One"


67 posted on 07/27/2006 7:29:57 PM PDT by marc costanzo (Strength & Honor)
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To: marc costanzo
Tycoon's mind is transplanted into his crooner secretary's body...

It's an interesting thing, that every Heinline novel from about 1960 on, except I think for his last one, makes some passing reference to sex-changes. I've never quite known what to make of that.

Much as I enjoyed (and still enjoy) his juvies, just about everything he wrote in his last thirty or so years boils down to people flying around the universe arguing endlessly about sex and who's in charge.

68 posted on 07/27/2006 7:30:08 PM PDT by Grut
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To: marc costanzo
In terms of books, it may have gone downhill, but Lexx was a silly show.
Stargate SG1 and even Atlantis are better than Lexx. PS. What was wrong with Babylon 5 other than the cultural relativism?
69 posted on 07/27/2006 7:30:31 PM PDT by rmlew (I'm a Goldwater Republican... Don Goldwater 2006!)
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To: freedumb2003

>>REAL science fiction affecionados NEVER use the term "sci fi."<<

Is that a distinction without a difference ?


70 posted on 07/27/2006 7:30:45 PM PDT by marc costanzo (Strength & Honor)
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To: dynachrome

Ah, just imagine of Rumsfeld was a kzin...

Reporter: Have you considered the option of drawing down troop strength in the face increased Iraqi resistence?

Rumsfeld: Eater of herbivore droppings! Our troops will bring glory to the Patriarch, Doobyia Boosh. Now is the time to thrust victory into the haunches of fortune, not grovel like a guilty female. Your ears are mine!


71 posted on 07/27/2006 7:31:29 PM PDT by Liberty Tree Surgeon (Mow your own lawn!)
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To: DBrow
Harry Harrison is a whore for the UN.

But the Stainless Steel Rat books are fun.

Doesn't anyone here read Poul Anderson, who gave us the Great Arch-capitalist, Nicholas van Rijn? And the man who was the model for 007, Dominic Flandry? (Flandry pre-dated Bond.)

And for something truly different, but seriously conservative, try Jack Vance.

72 posted on 07/27/2006 7:32:21 PM PDT by Chairman Fred (@mousiedung.commie)
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To: Kermit the Frog Does theWatusi

That's OK. With the mad rsuh by liberals for embryonic stem cell genocide American society will become an unending campy B Science Fiction movie.

73 posted on 07/27/2006 7:33:17 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: marc costanzo
Given that list I think you'll find the authors at Baen very much to your liking (assuming, of course, that you liked the stuff from the authors you listed).

Niven and Pournelle are the protege's of RAH. They have chosen to endorse Baen.COM by allowing them to make available, for free, their collaboration Fallen Angels as an ebook.

Separate from Baen, if you haven't read the collaborations between Niven and Pournelle you haven't really read either of them.  They do their best work together.  I spent a very long drunken weekend with them at a con and have known Jerry for years through his computer journalism work.  They bring out the best in each other.  I particularly recommend Lucifer's Hammer and Footfall.  Both are products of the 70s and don't stand up to 30 years of science, but great books none the less.  Lucifer's Hammer is the ultimate "something hits the Earth" book and Footfall is the ultimate "someone invades the Earth" book, IMHO.

Rick Cook, who did the Wizardry series, the first two books of which are also in the free library, is an IEEE fellow.  If you know squat about computers you'll get all of the jokes.  If you don't you still will probably enjoy the books.  And I bet Clarke likes his stuff (inside joke - see Clarke's Law).

Koontz is probably envious of Ringo's military SF, with Ringo having been a member of the 82nd.brings some great verisimilitude to his stuff.  Alien omnivores not withstanding.

Check out the library.  It's free.  Tell me you don't find authors to list among those you cite in the mix you provide.  I bet you you'll be pleased.  You named giants.  These are their heirs.

74 posted on 07/27/2006 7:33:18 PM PDT by Phsstpok (Often wrong, but never in doubt)
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To: exhaustguy

"I hear tell of a "Princess of Mars" series."

Sounds interesting, do you have any refs for it?


75 posted on 07/27/2006 7:33:19 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.)
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To: marc costanzo

Marc, how about a one hour TV movie based on The Cold Equations? That would get things hopping.

Very un-PC and shows just how cold the world can be.


76 posted on 07/27/2006 7:33:54 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: Liberty Tree Surgeon
Now THAT would be a good General... no sugarcoating on that and all rough'n'tough business. ;)
77 posted on 07/27/2006 7:35:46 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

>>Yes, I like William Gibson - but one of him is enough. ;) <<

Gibson is the well poisoner !

He is an American expatriot who ran off to Canada in the early 70's to drop acid - - that where you get the opening page of Neuromancer .

Gibson did not originate this trend, Philip K Dick did in the 1960's !
His 1950's short story SECOND VARIETY was turned into that 1996 stinker(made in Canada) SCREAMERS


78 posted on 07/27/2006 7:35:48 PM PDT by marc costanzo (Strength & Honor)
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To: Chairman Fred

Deathworld Trilogy would make a nice mini-series too.


79 posted on 07/27/2006 7:35:56 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: Liberty Tree Surgeon

>Ah, just imagine of Rumsfeld was a kzin... <

Well, Tony Snow did take the "Speaker to Animals" job...


80 posted on 07/27/2006 7:36:05 PM PDT by LRS
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