Watch Mike Pence Pander To The New York Times

C-Span ^ | July 29, 2006 | Ajay

[garbageseeker]

He went to the right place to get his message across. The liberal New York Times.

[AJAY]

>>>>>>Tom DeLay didn't think government spent a dime on pork. All of those politicians you listed have some deep flaws.<<<<<<

As did Ronald Reagan and Abraham Lincoln. But I agree that they all have flaws. I just was saying that, unlike politicians such as Mike Pence and Lindsey Graham, they don't give a rat's ass what the New York Times thinks of them.

However, despite his flaws, Tom Delay is the most effective politician I've seen in my 73 years--even though he gave the "Hate America" crowd the ammunition to force him out of Congress.

Even Henry Hyde can be criticized fairly. But nobody reminds me more of the founding fathers than this great man.
Even while being sabotaged by Lindsey Graham, Mr. Hyde showed great skill and courage in impeaching the Rapist-In-Chief. Of course people like Trent Lott, Rick Santorum, Arlen Specter, Ted Stevens and others undermined Hyde when he took the impeachment to the Senate. All this is documented in a great book by Hyde's Chief Investigative Counsel, David P. Shippers. His book is titled "SELLOUT: THE INSIDE STORY OF PRESIDENT CLINTON'S IMPEACHMENT." Everyone interested in politics should read this book. It certainly demonstrates that many self-described conservatives are weak, pusillanimous, and hypocritical.

While I'm talking about books, I just discovered former Congressman Jim Rogan(R,CA), a true profile in courage, has a book out called "Rough Edges: My Unlikely Road from Welfare to Washington." Rogan was a great participant in impeachment--in my view, he and Charles Canady(R,FL) were the two most effective allies of Chairman Hyde. Rogan was a conservative Republican from a Democrat district and his participation with Hyde was sure to make him lose his House seat (it did just that). Anyway I just ordered his book from Amazon and it costs only $17.65.

[AJAY]

Thank you. I think your wall posters did a better job of making my point than I did.

[AJAY]

>>>>>>He went to the right place to get his message across. The liberal New York Times.<<<<<<

Actually Pence spoke at the National Press Club but like at the NY Times, there was no shortage of Hate-America people there.

[AJAY]

These are the ones who want a Journalists' Shield Law

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Rove Blasts Journalists' Role in Politics

By WILL LESTER
The Associated Press
Saturday, July 29, 2006; 9:02 PM

WASHINGTON -- Presidential adviser Karl Rove said Saturday that journalists often criticize political professionals because they want to draw attention away from the "corrosive role" their own coverage plays in politics and government.

"Some decry the professional role of politics, they would like to see it disappear," Rove told graduating students at the George Washington University Graduate School of Political Management. "Some argue political professionals are ruining American politics _ trapping candidates in daily competition for the news cycle instead of long-term strategic thinking in the best interest of the country."

But Rove turned that criticism on journalists.

"It's odd to me that most of these critics are journalists and columnists," he said. "Perhaps they don't like sharing the field of play. Perhaps they want to draw attention away from the corrosive role their coverage has played focusing attention on process and not substance."

Rove told about 100 graduates trained to be political operatives that they should respect the instincts of the American voter.

"There are some in politics who hold that voters are dumb, ill informed and easily misled, that voters can be manipulated by a clever ad or a smart line," said Rove, who is credited with President Bush's victories in the 2000 and 2004 elections. "I've seen this cynicism over the years from political professionals and journalists. American people are not policy wonks, but they have great instincts and try to do the right thing."

Rove said it is "wrong to underestimate the intelligence of the American voter, but easy to overestimate their interest. Much tugs at their attention."

But he said voters are able to watch campaigns and candidates closely and "this messy and imperfect process has produced great leaders."

[theworkersarefew]

you sir,are not telling the truth.
Mike Pence led the charge against amnesty international.Be honest.

Yesterday Rep. Mike Pence, Indiana Republican, said Amnesty should either retract or clarify its comments.
"To suggest that in all of the world, the gulag of our times is not the death camps that are the natural progeny of the gulags of the Soviet empire that exist today in North Korea but that Guantanamo Bay is, that seems to me, as I said, anti-historical, irresponsible and the type of rhetoric that endangers American lives," Mr. Pence said.
But Mr. Pitts did not back down.
"It's not Amnesty that is putting the United States in this position, and it's not just Amnesty's reports," he said.
Mr. Pitts also pointed to studies that he said show an increase in terrorism, and said that's the result of American abuses: "I think that's more than just a correlation, it's causation."
Mr. Bush has called Amnesty's charges "absurd" and challenged the credibility of the organization, but Mr. Pitts said U.S. policy is absurd.
"I think it's absurd for the United States to create a legal black hole, and it's time to fill in that legal black hole and shut Guantanamo," he said.
Mr. Pence said afterward that Mr. Pitts' answers did not defend comparing the U.S. record to the gulag.
"I found it woefully inadequate," he said. "His response to 20 million murdered civilians in the gulag [was] he referred to one death under questionable circumstances at Guantanamo."
http://washingtontimes.com/national/20050610-113618-7373r_page2.htm

Tempers flared when Rep. Mike Pence, R-Ind., accused Amnesty International of endangering the lives of Americans in uniform by referring to the prison at Guantanamo Bay as a "gulag." Sensenbrenner didn't allow the Amnesty representative, Chip Pitts, to respond until Nadler raised a "point of decency."
http://www.morethings.com/log/2005/06/james-sensenbrenner-stifles.html