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Mel Gibson apologizes for DUI arrest
AP ^ | 7/29/06 | SANDY COHEN

Posted on 07/29/2006 2:12:15 PM PDT by Vision

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To: Dark Skies
Ditto... exactly what I was thinking. 0.12 is legally impaired by law, but really a mild buzz for most drinkers. If he was that out of it at that level, he had something else in his system a breath test wouldn't catch.

And alcoholism is a disease folks, how it affects the brain in alcoholics is different from "normies". Also, nicotine has shown to decrease blood alcohol, which is suggested that is why smokers tend to drink more.
61 posted on 07/29/2006 3:29:48 PM PDT by clilly54
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

---I've met many people of substantial education and accomplishment, who have made the most outrageous comments about Jews...---

Now it's become fashionable to substitute Zionist for Jew. Mel must not have gotten the memo.


62 posted on 07/29/2006 3:31:59 PM PDT by claudiustg (dou•ble•think ('d&-b&l-"thi[ng]k), noun, 1949: a simultaneous belief in two contradictory ideas.)
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To: kstewskis

Pleasant comment by you, appreciated.


63 posted on 07/29/2006 3:32:29 PM PDT by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: Always Right
What did he do, quote the New York Times?

Let's just say that starting this week, he's getting a regular column slot on LewRockwell.com

64 posted on 07/29/2006 3:32:44 PM PDT by BlazingArizona
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To: phatus maximus

Alcohol affects each one of us differently and at different rates and in different amounts. There are no hard and fast rules with which to detrmine how any one person might be impaired at .12, .08 or .02.

To everyone else: the mainstream meaning behind "alcoholism is a disease" mantra is *not* that it literally is a disease but that its clinical diagnosis and treatment is simialr to the process of diseases. But no one, except the truly wacko, believes alcoholics are to be socially and legally treated the same as those with a 'real' disease...i.e. a pathology with a 'no choice' basis


65 posted on 07/29/2006 3:34:52 PM PDT by ARW3A
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

That is the physical side as opposed to the mental side. At least you didn't undergo that horrible vertigo reaction. Oh the horror.


66 posted on 07/29/2006 3:36:09 PM PDT by Torie
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To: clilly54

'0.12 is legally impaired by law'
Nope. Try 0.08 Which means don't have 2 beers with your burger and side dish.


67 posted on 07/29/2006 3:36:22 PM PDT by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
I am jewish with a decidedly unjewish last name. You would probably not be surprised at the hateful antisemitic comments I have heard from people who would never have made such comments if they'd known I was jewish.

Nothing surprises me anymore and I certainly understand the migration to Israel by jewish people from France and the US lately.

68 posted on 07/29/2006 3:37:18 PM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: claudiustg

Who knows? Some things just aren't forgivable. Should he wear a scarlet A or a scarlet A-S?


69 posted on 07/29/2006 3:37:28 PM PDT by TradicalRC ("...this present Constitution, which will be valid henceforth, now, and forever..."-Pope St. Pius V)
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To: OldFriend

I can't believe some of the anti-Semitic garbage getting spewed in public these days and its frightening.

Abraham wasn't kidding when he wrote that God would "bless those who bless and curse those who curse" (bad paraphrase on my part).

Take heart. There are still many Christians who stand beside Israel and her people, and it's got nothing to do with prophecy.


70 posted on 07/29/2006 3:40:40 PM PDT by Kieri (A Grafted Branch)
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To: OldFriend
"Can't forgive his rant against President Bush for going into Iraq either because I believe his opinion is rooted in anti semitism."

Don't know if that's the case or not, but it does fit. My liberal fishing buddy is constantly talking about Bush's "neocons."

71 posted on 07/29/2006 3:41:32 PM PDT by Sam Cree (Don't mix alcopops and ufo's)
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To: ARW3A

Alcohol affects each one of us differently and at different rates and in different amounts. There are no hard and fast rules with which to detrmine how any one person might be impaired at .12, .08 or .02.

I agree alcohol does indeed hit people differently, but a person battling with alcohol for many years, as he claims to be, is not out of THAT out of control at .12...That I refuse to believe.

For his weight/size .12 is probably 6 beers in a two hour time frame...


72 posted on 07/29/2006 3:43:02 PM PDT by phatus maximus (John 6:29...Learn it, love it, live it...)
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To: pleikumud
It's not a disease, it's an acquired habit.

Uh, no. It's a disease.

73 posted on 07/29/2006 3:43:56 PM PDT by Petronski (Living His life abundantly.)
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To: OldFriend

I'm in the same boat...I don't look Jewish in the conventional way and I've never had a Jewish name. The things people say is astounding. This year, especially, I have felt more fear for the future than ever before. And that's why what he said was so terrible. He is an INTERNATIONAL celebrity and this will be printed everywhere. He's just as responsible for what he says as the Dixie Chicks are. And IMO, what he said was far more damaging than what they said. To say I'm disappointed would be an understatement. Unlike many of my friends and relatives..I defended him against the accusations that he was anti-semetic and that THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST was his vehicle to display it. But now ALL those critics are sitting and having their I TOLD YOU SO moment. And everyone who praised Gibson for that should be disappointed as well.


74 posted on 07/29/2006 3:45:16 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: OldFriend

I am Swedish-Norwegian, but my last name sounds very Jewish. I can't remember the last time I personally heard an anti-Semetic remark. :^)


75 posted on 07/29/2006 3:45:59 PM PDT by claudiustg (dou•ble•think ('d&-b&l-"thi[ng]k), noun, 1949: a simultaneous belief in two contradictory ideas.)
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To: Paperdoll
To everyone else, "Judge not lest ye be judged." Matt.7:1

That is one of the most mis-used verses. We all make judgements on people all day long, time and time again. Example: Your child wants to hang out with kids that you know are dopers. You judge them as "bad" and tell your child, "You are not hanging out with those kids, they are not good,..." Some "sleasy" looking guy comes to your house and wants to take your daughter out on a date. You "judge" him and tell your daughter, "You are NOT going on a date with that boy. He is not a 'good' boy". And on and on...

76 posted on 07/29/2006 3:49:36 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: Westlander; clilly54

clilly54 said: '0.12 is legally impaired by law'

You said: 'Nope. Try 0.08'

Now, why would you say 'nope,' since .12 is definitely legally impaired by law, being above .08?


77 posted on 07/29/2006 3:50:07 PM PDT by Petronski (Living His life abundantly.)
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To: phatus maximus
I agree alcohol does indeed hit people differently, but a person battling with alcohol for many years, as he claims to be, is not out of THAT out of control at .12...That I refuse to believe.

True. During my youthful days, I could swig down a bunch of Vodka + Grapefruits in an hour, hit that level, and you would barely be able to tell I was drinking.

79 posted on 07/29/2006 3:52:22 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: Torie
It may warp termperment, but not I think, instinctual beliefs and sensibilities. The guy is a Jew hater who has disciplined himself to contain that, when sober, usually. That is my guess.

Possibly. I was just referring to his disgusting behavior in general.

80 posted on 07/29/2006 3:54:02 PM PDT by bkepley
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