Posted on 07/30/2006 10:23:17 PM PDT by humint
It will never happen until the price of petroleum fuels outweighs the cost and aggravation of alternative sources. Believe me, there is a LOT of aggravation in alternative fuels in daily operation compared to petroleum products.
Bring on the $8.00/gal gasoline and diesel! Until then, stop whining.
Hm, I think it's a little keen to hint that Germany is trailing behind the US in the question of energy security. I would even say we're at the forefront with ecological energy production and the hydrogen cell, and the debacle with that crook Schroeder indicates that while he was making sure it was to his benefit, he was at least asking the right questions about Germany's future needs.
In every case, the strategy adopted is aimed at reducing dependence on imported oil and natural gas by developing alternative sources of energy, notably nuclear.
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nuclear,, not solar, not hydro,, ,, nuclear
Thanks for posting this
Just a moment ago in a separate post, I postulated that this could be the one area of commonality we might share with the greenies; the desire to reduce our dependence on oil. The more I think about it though, the more I see those greenies running to the courthouse to file injunction this and injunction that to stop folks from doing any real work on alternative fuels.
"Oh, you're not Jane Fonda. If you burn used french fry grease in your big redneck diesel truck, you'll be releasing deadly toxins into the environment. Only us anointed Protectors of Mother Earth are permitted to use the land and her materials for our purposes. Only our people are permitted to ride our preppie BMW touring motorcycles, not those filthy Harley Davidsons you slobs use. Only our people are permitted to use fossil fuels for making our Birkenstocks. You are not permitted to burn wood, that's wasting our forests. You are not permitted to turn corn into ethanol, that corn is genetically modified. You are not permitted to even fantasize about using coal for any purpose at all, you can't even put it in a Christmas stocking because we hate Christmas since it's a religious holiday and we hate all religions except the Religion of Peace. You may not use hydrogen since it uses nasty toxic chemicals to produce it. You may not use natural gas since you'll have to drill to get it and you'll damage the precious environment. You may not use electricity since you'll have to store it in batteries, and of course those are deadly. Mind you, our people are free to use batteries all we like, since we'll be using iPods to listen to trendy music and we'll be using our cell phones to arrange our next Sierra Club outing. You may not use nuclear energy, you many not even discuss it. Anything with "nuclear" or "atomic" in it is bad bad bad. Did we get eveything? Well, we'll let you talk quietly about wind energy, and solar energy, but we'll need you to pay our biologists huge sums to conduct enironmental impact studies first. Of course, if we don't like you, we'll say the wind turbines hurt the birds and the solar panels block the sunlight from hitting the dirt underneath. Basically, we envronmentalists are the natural overlords and protectors of Mother Earth's bounty, and you primates are simply here to abuse her."
308MBR: Bring on the $8.00/gal gasoline and diesel! Until then, stop whining.
Look past the pump for a sec. When you fill up, who gets your treasure? What do you suppose they do with it? Gas will never make it to $8.00/gal because the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corp will have enough resources to aggravate you to death.
Obedience to Khamenei is obedience to Imam Khomeini
When the wells run dry, so will islam.
Well, the cassini spacecraft just discovered whole hydrocarbon oceans on titan. If the pols are really hot after CxHx, send them there to get it, naked, with buckets. Actually it's in the Book of Revelation : 200 million chinese invading israel to lap up the last dregs of mideast oil. It happened before : the mongol invasion, history repeats itself. The real problem though is TOO much energy in human hands. Where does the WASTE HEAT go when everyone, including whacko terrorists, children, idiots; have whole atomic bombs worth of free energy to play with? Do you leave a loaded gun in a nursery for little children to play with? Yes, we've long had the answers : blacklightpower.com and cheniere.org; but how much is it worth if it brings about the complete extermiation of the environment(and human race)because we're not mature enough yet to handle TOO MUCH ENERGY?
"Bring on the $8.00/gal gasoline and diesel! Until then, stop whining."
Here in the UK the price is £5 or near to it - about $9.50 at today's rates. Its headline news from time to time but there's no crisis or anything yet.
Thanks for posting. I've only read a small number of this bloke's articles which I've found to be reasoned, logical, unemotional opinion as well as being informative. This didn't disappoint.
The impact of energy on our economy has an evolutionary effect. The specialization that certain fuels allow becomes like pillars propping up our economy. When the supply of those fuels is threatened
recall the extinction of the dinosaurs? Entire swaths of our economy will become extinct, virtually over night. The folks whom are eager to say alternatives are the answer, are rarely engineers. If they are, they should be aware of the kind of the incredible lifestyle changes their alternative will require. Im an engineer and when I talk lifestyle changes Im referring to the kind of changes people do not make unless they are forced to make them. Necessity is the mother of invention. Necessity is measured in blood and starving children. This most recent generation of Americans is numb to such things
i have always thought the reason the western european economies (particularly the UK) absorb the very high tax on petrol is 1) avg. distance goods travel by truck is much lower and 2) you have a functional mass transit AND inter-city transit system. If we had 9.50/gln gas here we would not have an economy.
[When you fill up, who gets your treasure?]
The federal government makes more profit than anyone else.
[What do you suppose they do with it?]
They waste at least two thirds of it to internal bureaucracy, fraud and corruption.
I looked and looked but I didn't see the sarcasm tag attached anywhere to your post.
"1) avg. distance goods travel by truck is much lower and 2) you have a functional mass transit AND inter-city transit system"
That does make a lot of sense.
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