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Churches Putting Town Out of Business
Los Angeles Times ^ | 07/31/2006 | Lianne Hart

Posted on 07/31/2006 11:34:01 AM PDT by ritewingwarrior

STAFFORD, Texas — They are not the words one expects to hear from a politician or a Southerner, and Leonard Scarcella is both: "Our city has an excessive number of churches."

Scarcella is mayor of this Houston-area community, which has 51 churches and other religious institutions packed into its 7 square miles.

With some 300 undeveloped, potentially revenue-producing acres left in Stafford, officials are scrambling to find a legal way to keep more tax-exempt churches from building here.

"With federal laws, you can't just say, 'We're not going to have any more churches,' " Scarcella said. "We respect the Constitution, but 51 of anything is too much."

Stafford, population 19,227, is the largest city in Texas without a property tax, and it depends on sales taxes and business fees for revenue. Nonprofits have been attracted by its rapid growth and minimal deed restrictions. "It's thrown everything out of balance, plus providing zero revenue. Somebody's got to pay for police, fire and schools," City Councilman Cecil Willis said.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: church; churchandstate; eminentdomain; firstamendment; government; govwatch; propertyrights; taxation; taxes
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I found this interesting in relation to the eminent domain issue. The justification for the taking in New London, was that there was some property that was exempt from taxation, and being a small municipality, they needed more money to survive.

It is my opinion that small governments, that can not support themselves, need to be dissolved. Clearly a 7 sq. mile town, should revert to the county if it can not sustain itself. Many counties in America have unincorporated areas that are developed. Maybe its time for Stafford to revert back to the county, or to find a way of doing business for less.

1 posted on 07/31/2006 11:34:02 AM PDT by ritewingwarrior
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So to increase revenue, there needs to be less churches! ED writ large on this one.
2 posted on 07/31/2006 11:37:04 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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But Nilda Martinez, who owns a flower shop between two churches, has had enough. "The churches, they're everywhere here," she said. "There are too many; the city should control it. It hurts the city when you don't have enough businesses paying taxes."

You would think business would be booming for this florist with so many churches nearby. It is a good thing when people WANT to come to your city and build there (just ask the mayors of Philly and Detroit when the opposite happens). This town and it's citizens need to think out of the box to tap into this market.

3 posted on 07/31/2006 11:38:08 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
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Hmm, that population and that many churches comes to about 385 people per church. I'm not sure what significance that has, but it's an interesting number.

I remember that the church I attended while in high school had about 350 members (there was a board on the wall which listed the number of members, along with the hymns for that service).

I suspect that the number of churches will be self-limiting, based on the population of the town.

But...Stafford, Texas. For some reason, that sounds familiar to me. I just can't put my finger on it.


4 posted on 07/31/2006 11:39:02 AM PDT by MineralMan (non-evangelical atheist)
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To: 2banana

Yeh, Open up a Pew Restoral business!!!


5 posted on 07/31/2006 11:39:14 AM PDT by ritewingwarrior
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To: MineralMan

Stafford is real close to Houston, the population density is a bit on the high side out there.


6 posted on 07/31/2006 11:41:08 AM PDT by Hydroshock ( (Proverbs 22:7). The rich ruleth over the poor, and the borrower is servant to the lender.)
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To: ritewingwarrior

So, why did they give them permits?


7 posted on 07/31/2006 11:41:24 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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"Stafford is real close to Houston, the population density is a bit on the high side out there.
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That's not it, but never mind. Not a rich suburb, then? Well, it sounds like time to do some sort of property tax, I guess.

Still, it sounds like they have plenty of churches.


8 posted on 07/31/2006 11:42:45 AM PDT by MineralMan (non-evangelical atheist)
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No but is is surronded by other suburbs of Houston. It is definitly part of the Greater Houston Area.


9 posted on 07/31/2006 11:43:56 AM PDT by Hydroshock ( (Proverbs 22:7). The rich ruleth over the poor, and the borrower is servant to the lender.)
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"No but is is surronded by other suburbs of Houston. It is definitly part of the Greater Houston Area.

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OK, thanks!


10 posted on 07/31/2006 11:44:59 AM PDT by MineralMan (non-evangelical atheist)
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To: ritewingwarrior

Methinks they have an excessive number of foolish representatives


11 posted on 07/31/2006 11:47:03 AM PDT by Teacher317
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To: 2banana

We have a christian university in our town of 32,000. It is growing rapidly. So many people resent the university because it is tax exempt, leeches off the town, etc. I always remind them of the jobs created and the students spending money here. Cater to the university and it will help our economy grow along with it.


12 posted on 07/31/2006 11:49:10 AM PDT by raisincane (Dims think we're all oblivious to the obvious)
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I suspect that the number of churches will be self-limiting, based on the population of the town.

The churches don't depend on the population of the town. The worshipers are from out of town. Those churches are bleeding the taxpayers of the town to fatten their own pockets.
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13 posted on 07/31/2006 11:49:38 AM PDT by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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Sounds like they need a good Christian bookstore and a higher sales tax.


14 posted on 07/31/2006 11:51:29 AM PDT by proudpapa (of three.)
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To: ritewingwarrior
Church's shouldn't be tax exempt anyways, if there was no government intervention to begin with market forces would sort this out.
15 posted on 07/31/2006 11:52:21 AM PDT by xpertskir (McCain Lieberman '08(democratic ticket))
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"The churches don't depend on the population of the town. The worshipers are from out of town. Those churches are bleeding the taxpayers of the town to fatten their own pockets.
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Ah, I see. So the 29,000 people in Stafford don't attend church? Is that what you're saying? That seems quite unlikely to me.

Or, perhaps, they all go to another suburb to attend services.

What you wrote makes no sense at all.


16 posted on 07/31/2006 11:54:12 AM PDT by MineralMan (non-evangelical atheist)
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This place sounds like South Carolina's unofficial motto:

"There's no problem that can't be solved by more God, or more guns."

17 posted on 07/31/2006 11:57:07 AM PDT by lovecraft (Specialization is for insects.)
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Liberals never complain about any other not-for-profits. Somehow it's only churches that are the problem! Typical anti-Religion garbage.


18 posted on 07/31/2006 11:57:46 AM PDT by winner3000
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To: ritewingwarrior

Get the ratio of taverns to churches more in line with that of Milwaukee, WI.

Upside - good revenue generator.
Downside - lower quality of life, greater law enforcement cost.


19 posted on 07/31/2006 12:00:11 PM PDT by burroak
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To: Salem

ping?


20 posted on 07/31/2006 12:01:12 PM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( http://www.answersingenesis.org)
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