Skip to comments.Was Qana Staged? Cont'd (Memogate II?)
Posted on 08/01/2006 1:48:42 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
It sure is!
The Islamoslobs have been very well aware from the beginning that half the battle takes place in the Media.. and much of the Media is corrupt.
Could the picture have been done at one point and the writing added later?
JVeritas, can you give a translation of the writing on the banner?
There has been a lot of blogging about Qana. I have found good info at Little Green Footballs, EU Referendum, Pajamas Media, Michelle Malkin, and Confederate Yankee. It looks like the whole thing was a setup.
Look at the bottom of the poster, it contains casualty scenes,
I guess from Qana.
The massacre of children in Qana 2, is the gift of Rice. The clever bombs..Stupid
Boy! is this whole thing (and lots of other enemy propaganda) being produced, directed, filmed, cut, pasted, hawked, distributed. . . .
This is like the situation where the little boy was shot on video and everyone blamed Israel and Israel even apologized at first, only to find out that it was a Palestinian setup.
Israel needs to come out quickly in its defense in the media. They are too ready to take blame themselves.
Screw them! Go full on with an investigation! It is nothing for these animals to set up their own people's death for a Photo op. It is just like the Kid shot on video a few years back.
It would take multiple large-format printers to create a poster that size that quickly, stitched together.
The above is how they operate.
Would that be common in that area?
They're not common, but I've been in a couple of shops with multiple large-format printers. They are basically giant ink-jet printers.
Maybe Hezbollah bought several of them to make posters for demonstrations?
Also, it is a common practice to apply a laminate overcoat to the paper to make them more durable. It might be possible to interpose elements between the laminate and the paper.
So, You would need the poster or samples of it to tell for sure.
"..Since I do banners like this for a living, I can tell you it take more than a few hours depending on the equipment. A banner that large can be done one of two ways. With a grant format printer. It would probably take about 3-4 hours to print, then hours more to sew and grommet so it could hung. It would have to be Made of heavy duty material or one that was reinforced or the sheer weight would rip it apart.
The other way it to use a smaller series of machines all color calibrated and produce sections. At that point they would have to be stretch the length of the banner ( read large facility) and sewn together. Additional support would go on the tops and bottoms.
In short if it was related Qana and went up within two hours- four hours, it was done prior to the bomb hitting. No other way. Just putting an image together that large on a computer with Type would take a few hours.
Then color tests, proofs and finally printing. That would be an all day affair for most print houses even with a grand format printer. The cost would be in the thousands.
Then you would have to transport it..."
Haven't read the whole thread but I'll reply.
That banner looks to me like large format inkjet.
It's usually printed on Flexface which is reinforced vinyl used for outdoor signage (especially backlit signs). I know this as I was a production manager at a sign company and we made signs just like this. Not only are large format inkjets very expensive, they need a very special computer setup with closed-loop color correction.
In you opinion could this be done in two to four hours?
Just a question? Whose face is in the shadows behind Rice's? Is that Olmert?
The main graphic could have been put together at any time, at issue would be adding the photo at the bottom, and the text. The imagery used needs to be very high resolution. The final image is going to be a very large sign which is, even on a powerful computer will take time to rip and send to the printer. The it's going to take time to print. A long time.
If this proves true, the blogosphere triumphs once again. Long live the pajamahadeen.
2 hours to complete the imagery, rip and print? No.
That sign looks to be about 30 feet long. That's big even for large format.
So the most likely answer is that the poster was made in advance.
What's disturbing and quite telling, is the resources that are available, at literally a moment's notice, for the Islamofascists to capitalize on an incident and use the global media to spread the message.
"The Islamoslobs have been very well aware from the beginning that half the battle takes place in the Media.. and much of the Media is corrupt."
They learned this from the American media and the Soviet media. It is called Vietnamization of the media. They are losing every battle but winning in the press.
Liberal Media exposed once again as easy dupes for Terrorists.
I don't know what the exact time frame was between the bombing and the poster.
Look at her fangs and the blood (lipstick) dripping from her lips to the pool of blood below containing the carnage of bodies.
How many hours would it take in you opinion?
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How long would it take with this one?
In any case, the real problem of this discussion is it accepts the premise that if it wasn't staged Israel was being bad. The real question we should be asking is if the killing of Israel innocents from the hezbolla missiles is okay with everyone.
I just woke-up....can someone tell me when this giant poster first appeared and where?
read my whole post for the answer and visit the links.
If they have billboards in Lebanon or Syria then someone has one of these superwide billboard injet printers. They are not that expensive and this is not the only company who makes them.
I'm sure Hezbollah has plenty of $350,000 printers laying around here and there.
Hezbollah is famous for their brutal Islamofascist terror tactics and for their soulful graphic artistry.
Some think it was shipped by Fed-Ex from Howard Deans' office but the evidence although compelling is still inconclusive. Fed-Ex has no comment.
I think the question before this august body is: was this banner produced on a moment's notice? I have not heard any persuaive argument that it was "impossible", it does appear to be unlikely.
Certainly, Hezbollah has shown that they would not scruple at doing something like this.
Some have suggested that the dead were actually transported from a morgue in Tyre and that there appeared to be very little recovery activity. The "rescuers" do seem to be making more effort at displaying corpses than rending aid. Also the bodies do not appear to be fresh.
I wonder why there aren't any injured. Usually in a building collapse there appear to be about as many nonfatal injuries as fatal. All the victims on offer are dead, Jim. Where are the ones with broken arms or serious internal injuries, where are the walking wounded?
My BS meter is pegged.
slightly less than 1 hour for a 16' x 139' banner - 16 x 139 = 2224 sq ft
They do have the technology. Until I read Wikepedia on them I thought they were simply a bunch of scum cave dweller types. A closer analogy would be if our very own liberals had an army in the US who have control over papers, news, politicians etc.
Hezbollah operates a satellite television station from Lebanon, Al-Manar TV ("the Lighthouse") as well as a radio station, al-Nour ("the light"). Kabdat Alla ("The Fist of God") is the monthly magazine of Hezbollah's paramilitary wing.
I would say that banner is no more than 16' x 32' (512 sq ft and I am being generous on the size of it) - so no more than 15 minutes to actually print out on the superwide inklet printer I mentioned above which can do 2240 sq ft in one hour.
inklet = inkjet
She had a planned visit, is there anything about the poster particular to the bombing is the question I suppose. (Along with the logistics if there is).
The answer is the large part of the banner probably was prepared beforehand. The real question is could the bottom have been added in a short time. As an accountant who prepared numerous documents using scissors, white-out and transparent tape back before Word and modern printers, I would not be ready to say a previous prepared poster could not be modified. I would be more persuaded if the area mentioning Qana were the large part.