Posted on 08/01/2006 7:06:01 AM PDT by LurkedLongEnough
Barefoot to boot.
So, now we're supposed to not only place water fountains in the desert but also provide them with the proper footwear?
I don't know about consensus, but here's my $.02 (based on the article).
That company alone could solve our ILLEGAL immigration problem.
(Yeah I'm in a mean mood - my back frigging hurts and I can't sue anyone for it!)
Okay, I too see a couple people (only two or three up until your post) who blow off a some steam by posting harsh responses, but you the occasion to criticize the whole site!?!?! There were a few arguments posted as well, or didn't you notice?
In case I'm not being clear, I too cringe at the apparent heartlessness of a couple of the plans, but as I contemplate , I come to the conclusion that the rhetorical tactic of overstatement is being used to accentuate point - this is just a debate after all.
It really concerns me that you take the opportunity here to take a swipe at the site.
The site provides a unique forum to hash out conservative philosophy and practice. Check out the DU site if you want to see consistent, pervasive, disgusting and ugly views.
Have you been in any hospitals lately? Who do you think is doing the cleaning there now? I can tell you one thing - Hospitals here in Fairfax County, Virginia prefer their janitors illegal, undocumented, and easily replacable, apparently...
That picture speaks volumes. Jobs Americans won't do, indeed!
Connecticut ping!
Please Freepmail me if you want on or off my infrequent Connecticut ping list.
No, I was not. (And please feel free to intrude at your discretion...I love discussing this type of thing :-)
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I'd argue that neither the Constitution nor "common law" offers any such right of writ, but rather the notion that "anyone can sue" is one bestowed upon us by the U.S. Code (see my post above), a product of Federal legislation created by cretins in Congress.
LOL! 'Cretins' is too mild a word. If you notice your US Code cite though, you'll see that the phrase 'United States' is NEVER used, but every time it says 'State', it actually means 'the United States'. This is more of the 'words of art' legal crapola government uses to control the people.-(d) The word States, as used in this section, includes the Territories, the District of Columbia, and the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico.
When certain things are included, everything else is, by default, excluded.
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Whether the federal government likes it or not, their jurisdiction is limited and restricted by the terms of the Constitutional contract.
Unfortunately, the People have become so ignorant of the construction of the law, they don't even realize that there is more than one type of 'law' in operation in our country. The government can say or do the most outrageous things, and the People say "Uh....okay!"
It's enough to make one ill!
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The reason illegals have *special* rights is because they ARE 'illegal'.
Using the intent of the Founders in establishing our Republic, you will discover there is NO SUCH THING as a ~United States citizen~. All the writings of the Founders that I've read say 'citizen of the United States', or State citizen.......NEVER United States citizen.
Even though the authority to create a new class of citizenship appears nowhere in the Constitution, the federal government has done just that. A 'United States citizen' is a creation of government. One of the oldest and most basic tenants of law, 'that which you create, you have the right to control', is what gives the federal government jurisdiction over US Citizens. The United States government was originally constructed to be a civil entity inside its Constitutional boundaries, and a statutory (or administrative) entity when dealing with the governments of the respective States.
Illegals have no *legal entity*, so they are still considered 'natural persons'. BY LAW. Natural persons are under the jurisdiction of natural, or common/civil law.
Here is nolo's definition of:
natural person
A living, breathing human being, as opposed to a legal entity such as a corporation. Different rules and protections apply to natural persons and corporations, such as the Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination, which applies only to natural persons.
That's why illegals get preferential treatment over Americans....they have no legal entity BECAUSE THEY ARE *illegal*.
It's also why the government is so hot under the collar to 'legalize' all the 'illegals'.
Since government has made 'citizenship' a burden instead of a benefit, I think it would be a good thing for all we lowly 'US citizens' to expatriate ourselves en masse.
Hey--wait a minute. I'm a big fan of this site. I really didn't mean for my comment to be taken as a criticism of FR. Looking back, I can see that I shouldn't have phrased my response that way. My comments were directed exclusively to the two or three posters with extreme views.
I've been to DU. Please don't banish me to DU.
No harm, no foul. I appreciate your explanation. Sorry I took it the wrong way. Lets just agree that the 2-3 posters were over the top.
For what it's worth, I don't have the power to banish anyone. Neither do I have the influence to suggest such. Even if I did, I don't'd think for a minute that what you said deserves any punishment - it's just another voice in debate which is always welcome (IMO).
Post your thoughts and let the chips fall were they may.
Regards,
David
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