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To: Lazamataz

Dear Lazamataz,

Okay. Just checking.

Here in Maryland, there was an interesting case a few years back. There was this Chinese restaurant (they had a dish called "Hong Kong Steak" - it was very tasty, but it certainly wasn't beef - dog? cat? anyway, it tasted good) that I often frequented for their buffet.

It turned out that they'd "bought" and illegal immigrant from a "coyote" who'd been paid by the illegal immigrant to bring him to the United States. They kept him chained in the basement when not working, and chained to the dishwasher during the day while he worked in the kitchen. Essentially, they'd enslaved him.

To make a long story short, eventually, the authorities caught on, and both owners, an uncle and nephew, went to prison for violation of the 13th Amendment.

So, you wouldn't have prosecuted these two for slavery?

Thanks,


sitetest


14 posted on 08/01/2006 7:33:53 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: sitetest
It turned out that they'd "bought" and illegal immigrant from a "coyote" who'd been paid by the illegal immigrant to bring him to the United States. They kept him chained in the basement when not working, and chained to the dishwasher during the day while he worked in the kitchen. Essentially, they'd enslaved him. So, you wouldn't have prosecuted these two for slavery?

Nope. No prosecution for the couple. If you are an illegal immigrant, you have NO protection under the law whatsoever.

In fact, upon finding this situation, I would rectify it by harshly prosecuting the illegal immigrant, and sending him back to his home country ..... where he would tell the tale of horror of his enslavement, with no penalty to the enslavers, to all of his friends.

And we'd have about 20 less illegal-immigrant-wannabees.

17 posted on 08/01/2006 7:38:51 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Islam is a perversion of faith, a lie against human spirit, an obscenity shouted in the face of G_d)
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To: sitetest; Lazamataz
So, you wouldn't have prosecuted these two for slavery?

Caveat emptor. The risk of coming to this country outside of the law is that you, as a person, will be entered into involuntary servitude. We see it with Mexicans crossing the border, we see it with Eastern European women transported here by mafia groups. The government's action is not to allow any kind of jurisdiction to those who are the victims of such activity, but to punish those who committed the crime. The victim of the crime should be cared for enough to testify in the criminal (NOT CIVIL) trial, and then should be graciously handed over to the authorities of their home country, to which they owe their allegiance and from which they should expect service.

There was never any intent in our Constitution to allow non-resident aliens jurisdiction in any of our Courts, State or Federal. We're not the world's "rights" police, and our Courts shouldn't be burdened with any such foolishness—though the reality is, they currently are behaving as both.

Hope this makes sense,
~dt~

20 posted on 08/01/2006 7:43:26 AM PDT by detsaoT (Proudly not "dumb as a journalist.")
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To: sitetest
Are you just looking for a fight?

Nobody is going to call a slave trader a good guy. We put people in jail for hurting cats and dogs.

If an illegal rapes my wife or child., the courts will be looking at me. I hope I get the same kind of jury that the mcD's woman got in her spilled coffee reward.

All of your scenarios are giving rights to the illegal, while apparently taking the recourse away from the victims.

Keep testing those premises, though. Maybe one will work!

21 posted on 08/01/2006 7:44:41 AM PDT by pageonetoo (You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
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