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Time stamp on the photos?

Would that be the original time stamp or the time stamp of the news agency that published it?


51 posted on 08/02/2006 6:31:27 AM PDT by soccer_maniac (My new blog: http://capitalistpundit.blogspot.com/)
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To: soccer_maniac

"Would that be the original time stamp or the time stamp of the news agency that published it?"

That's what I want to know too. We need more info yet.


91 posted on 08/02/2006 6:51:40 AM PDT by jdm
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Doesn't matter... they posed with those children for quite a while and they were dead a lot longer than they say.

In the videos two different people are loading a child into an ambulance, in another one has taken his gloves off and gone back to posing, one has changed his shirt and gone back to posing, you have EMTs with video cameras (a clue), and in two of the videos the men you do get to see have no dust/are fully mobile/no trace of blood. BTW, the children's injuries aren't consistent with stated manner of death. Will post all my links... again.

Meanwhile, google Fausta's Blog and Qana and she has the timeline re: AP, Reuters, French Press and others and timestamps... other blogs do as well.

Set aside a block of time, to get to the truth.

Incoming...


125 posted on 08/02/2006 7:12:59 AM PDT by AliVeritas (Talk to those who kill their own children, by Jihad/PR ? Remember Beslan.)
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SM, Fausta's Blog is in the links, sure she's updated since the media claimed foul on the time stamps... i'm seaching for the doctors as well who stated how long the children were dead. (Too many links to dig through). Hope it helps.

BTW, For those who already know the links, our great Burbank Karl has found the nail in the coffin... you got it, green helmet himself... the director of atrocities... see him in action:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyZsq3jyJ6w

There are excellent articles out on the blogs... will be back with them.

Kinda different
Things are not quite as they appear to be
http://varifrank.com/archives/2006/07/things_are_not_1.php

Tactics, Strategy, Grand Strategy
*
http://powerandcontrol.blogspot.com/2006/07/tactics-strategy-grand-strategy.html

Euphoric Reality
* Covers almost all the bases
http://euphoricreality.com/2006/07/31/the-parade-of-dead-children/

Hiz held children (Great links)
http://plancksconstant.org/blog1/2006/07/hezbollah_held_child.html

Qana Links

These get to the point...

Israel Insider
http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Diplomacy/8997.htm
*** Must see.
Green Hat Appearances
http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2006/07/who-is-this-man.html
http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2006/08/green-helmet-mystery-continues.html
http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/
Same child from above rescued over and over
http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2006/07/milking-it.html
Fausta's Blog let's us know which papers showed which pictures
http://faustasblog.com/2006/07/rockets-in-garden-and-france2.html


In case you're still not convinced... here's some more.

UK Guardian Archive
http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/news/archives/2006/07/31/sean_smiths_photographs_death_in_qana.html

Lebanese Blogger tells what's going on
http://rampurple.com/blog/2006/07/28/free-ain-ebel-from-hezbollah-invasion/

From American Thinker
Using innocents as tools of war
http://www.americanthinker.com/articles.php?article_id=5715

The Ho Chi Minh Trail to Beirut
http://www.americanthinker.com/articles.php?article_id=5708&search=ho

Rut Roh

Qana building destroyed by Hizbollah IED
Rumors circulating over what destroyed a residential building in Qana are increasingly pointing to Hizbollah rather than Israel’s precision missile strikes.

According to well placed sources, with access to IAF recon photos, the residential building in Qana was destroyed by a Hizbollah IED at 0700 Sunday July 30, 6 hours after the Israeli strike.

Further reports indicate that Hizbollah guerilla fighters restricted residents from leaving the area possibly shooting anyone that attempted to leave the Qana residential building.

http://intelligence-summit.blogspot.com/2006/07/qana-building-destroyed-by-hizbollah.html


In a letter to the editor of the Berlin left-wing daily Die Tageszeitung (TAZ) a Lebanese Shia explains how after Israel’s withdrawal from South Lebanon, Hezbollah stored rockets in bunkers in his town and built a school and residence over it.

I lived until 2002 in a small southern village near Mardshajund that is inhabited by a majority of Shias like me. After Israel left Lebanon, it did not take long for Hezbollah to take have its say in other towns. Received as successful resistance fighters and armed to the teeth, they stored rockets in bunkers in our town as well. The social work of the Party of God consisted in building a school and a residence over these bunkers! A local sheikh explained to me laughing that the Jews would lose in any event because the rockets would either be fired at them or if they attacked the rockets depots, they would be condemned by world opinion on account of the dead civilians. These people do not care about the Lebanese population, they use them as shields, and, once dead, as propaganda. As long as they continue existing there, there will be no tranquility and peace.

Dr. Mounir Herzallah
Berlin-Wedding
http://judeoscope.ca/article.php3?id_article=0429

http://www.sweetness-light.com/archive/was-the-qana-massacre-staged-by-hezbollah
The Banner:
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=21865#c0106

Just a flippin’ minute!!

This banner refers to a massacre at Qana? I had missed that point until now. Apparently, July 30th was marked as a ‘day of rage’ whether there was an incident or not. Unruly mobs ransacked a couple UN offices, there were spontaneous demonstrations in Damascus and now this.

I have seen people raising questions about how long it would take to produce such a banner. Someone with experience in the business outlined how it would take a days work to produce such a banner. I’ll search for the post.

Edit: Smoking Gun

This morning, I posted some speculation that the 30-foot banner of Secretary of State Rice that miraculously showed up in Qana yesterday was probably prepared in advance, leading to questions whether the entire event was staged. Tonight, reader Postermaker made the following comments about that blog post:

Since I do banners like this for a living, I can tell you it take more than a few hours depending on the equipment. A banner that large can be done one of two ways. With a grant format printer. It would probably take about 3-4 hours to print, then hours more to sew and grommet so it could hung. It would have to be Made of heavy duty material or one that was reinforced or the sheer weight would rip it apart.

The other way it to use a smaller series of machines all color calibrated and produce sections. At that point they would have to be stretch the length of the banner ( read large facility) and sewn together. Additional support would go on the tops and bottoms.

In short if it was related Qana and went up within two hours- four hours, it was done prior to the bomb hitting. No other way. Just putting an image together that large on a computer with Type would take a few hours.

Then color tests, proofs and finally printing. That would be an all day affair for most print houses even with a grand format printer. The cost would be in the thousands.

Then you would have to transport it.
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=21865#c0106

EconoPundit does a great job
http://econopundit.com/archive/2006_07_01_econopundit_archive.html#115435217531074983
___________

Links from the 31st

Per IsraellyCool Reader Cy:

Has anyone noticed how Hizbollah & Lebanon so conveniently claim the death of Israeli children as being necessary “martyrdom” for the Muslim cause (a reference to the 2 Israeli Arab children killed by a Katusha in Nazareth last week - ed) but when their own children are killed by the bombings it’s a different story, they express outrage.

Hiz firing from Apartment complex
http://www.mfa.gov.il/NR/rdonlyres/B883D7F6-FF7B-4E46-A639-643ED03F477E/0/FiringBehindBuilding.wmv


Good Israel news website.
http://www.danegerus.com/weblog/Comments.asp?svComment=15123

Israelly Cool is all over it
http://www.israellycool.com/

All kinds of art and knowledge (Glorious, Glorious)
http://www.danegerus.com/weblog/Right.asp

Flopping Aces (big up) with video
http://www.floppingaces.net/2006/07/29/pictures-showing-the-cowardly-hezbollah/
(with the killer roundup at bottom, trust me... there's knowledge in those links)

Blue Crab Boulevard
(list of possible war crimes from this incident)
http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2006/07/30/caught-red-handed/

Hot Air (linkfest bottom)
http://hotair.com/archives/the-blog/2006/07/30/qana-bombing-building-collapsed-eight-hours-after-attack/

Powerline (building collapsed a short time before Arab journalists on the scene? Hours later?)
http://powerlineblog.com/archives/014844.php

Second Miracle at Cana
http://rightwingnuthouse.com/

NYT story with Christians telling what's really going on.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/28/world/middleeast/28refugees.htm?_r=1&oref=slogin

Vital Perspective also notes Article 28 of the 4th Geneva Convention:

The presence of a protected person may not be used to render certain points or areas immune from military operations.
So the civilian casualties are, under the Geneva Convention, Hezbollah's responsibility.
http://vitalperspective.typepad.com/vital_perspective_clarity/2006/07/responding_to_t.html

A reminder... for fans of moral equivalence
http://redneckperil.blogspot.com/2006/07/every-american-should-watch-this.html

The videos

Kfar Qana
Look at the guy laying on the stretcher talking
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1yvEpsxMQI&mode=related&search=Qana#

Does the guy outside speaking look familiar?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bnh3WVZWOYc&mode=related&search=Qana#

In this the little girl with the arm stiff the couple in the desert... too phony. And the guy with the beard from the stretcher.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rn2nsy3bjTs&mode=related&search=Qana#

Can't be the same building, and where was the guy walking with the little girl
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECdGZWGewNg&mode=related&search=Qana#

Escalation in the Hez media war
http://varifrank.com/archives/2006/07/escalation_in_t_1.php
Were Qana Bodies Coverup/Staged
http://confederateyankee.mu.nu/archives/188515.php
http://confederateyankee.mu.nu/archives/188571.php

Even though the times said the building was hit from above and residents said the walls and ceiling came down around them immediately after the first bomb. (Picture Right), however this with the story:
http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2006/07/30/world/20060730_QANA_SLIDESHOW_7.html

Look at this: Comparing Images
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2006/07/look_at_this.html

Green Hat
(view pallywood)
http://hotair.com/archives/the-blog/2006/07/31/qana-corpse-spokesmodel-same-as-in-1996-photos/

http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2006/07/who-is-this-man.html

Linkfest
http://daniel360.com/archives/186


Some Reading:

Child Murder, Ancient and Modern
http://junkyardblog.net/

THE CIVILIAN PARADOX IN MODERN WAR (Scroll down)
http://www.rightwingnuthouse.com/

Other video:

Longer, more in depth
http://www.shoutwire.com/viewstory/22169/Hezbollah_s_Use_of_Human_Shields

War in Lebanon: Hezbollah Fires From Behind 3-Story Bldg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWO5oU5LHFI&mode=related&search=

War in Lebanon: Hezbollah Rockets in Civilian Areas
Clear)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZ8fSkSMhjw&mode=related&search=

War in Lebanon: Hezbollah Attacks From Qana; Human Shields
2:24 Must See
http://vitalperspective.typepad.com/vital_perspective_clarity/2006/07/responding_to_t.html

You need anything else... ping me.


145 posted on 08/02/2006 7:32:57 AM PDT by AliVeritas (Talk to those who kill their own children, by Jihad/PR ? Remember Beslan.)
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