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Why America and the world need free trade
The Prometheus Institute ^ | 8/2/2006 | M. Harrison

Posted on 08/02/2006 8:41:11 AM PDT by tang0r

Forget the politicking on the news about tariffs and subsidies. The true advantages of free trade, toward which small political steps as the Doha trade round are vital, are to the long-term financial and social benefit of America and the world. Were free trade effectively implemented, instead of being torpedoed by the demagogic posturing of reactionary Leftists, the progress and development it inspired would improve the lives of millions of people.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: competition; doha; freetrade; globalism; libertarian; thirdworld; trade
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1 posted on 08/02/2006 8:41:12 AM PDT by tang0r
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To: tang0r

If you must have a multi-hundred page book outlining the agreement, then it ain't really Free Trade, is it?


2 posted on 08/02/2006 8:48:21 AM PDT by wolfpat (To connect the dots, you have to collect the dots.)
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To: tang0r

Not at the sacrifice of soverignty and our security (our borders) as our fine Washington-ites would have it. All at OUR cost -- never to them of course.


3 posted on 08/02/2006 8:48:39 AM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: tang0r

Yeah! Free trade my ancient mare. Free means free, like in equal. How come under NAFTA Mexican trucks and drivers that do not come close to our standards of safety and training are clogging our highways with obviously overloaded trucks and we cannot haul into precious Mexico?

How come a liter of vanilla extract costs $2.50 in Tecate, Mexico and $23.00 in El Cajon, CA? There are piles more...

No more "Free Trade" until American interests are represented by real Americans and not Liberal traitors.


4 posted on 08/02/2006 8:56:59 AM PDT by Medicine Warrior (There are a thousand hacking at the branches of Evil, to one who is striking at the root)
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To: wolfpat
...then it ain't really Free Trade, is it?

If these agreements increase personal freedom by lowering government interference, is that a good thing? Are lower prices good? Is increased trade good for our economy? Jobs? Wealth? If not, why not?

5 posted on 08/02/2006 9:03:52 AM PDT by Mase
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To: tang0r; Toddsterpatriot; 1rudeboy; expat_panama; Reagan Man
Leftists deride globalization for being, among other things, obsessed with sacrificing human interest in the pursuit of lowering prices. They what they strangely don't realize, however, is how much low prices are a human interest.

The author might be surprised to learn just how many "conservatives" on FR agree with these leftists.

6 posted on 08/02/2006 9:06:20 AM PDT by Mase
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To: tang0r
We need free trade so we can ship our jobs to Mexico and pay workers $1 per day. We also need it so eventually we can become the North American Union. "Prometheus Institute" should do a blog on that. You could call it, "Sovereignty or Cheap Crap? Cheap Crap!"
7 posted on 08/02/2006 9:09:57 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: Mase

Do they lower government interference, or do they just change the face of the government interference? I'm all for free trade, but free means free. How much needs to be specified other than, "I won't stop your sellers, and you won't stop mine. All other laws apply."


8 posted on 08/02/2006 9:11:56 AM PDT by wolfpat (To connect the dots, you have to collect the dots.)
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To: wolfpat
Do they lower government interference, or do they just change the face of the government interference?

Tariffs are taxes that exert more government control over the economy. Same with quotas. Removing them or lowering them reduces government control of trade and the economy. The more economic freedom a country practices the more wealth they will accumulate. There is also a solid correlation between the amount of personal liberty people enjoy and the amount of economic freedom a country practices. Since WWII we have significantly reduced barriers to trade and our economy and wealth have increased dramatically.

9 posted on 08/02/2006 9:20:30 AM PDT by Mase
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To: mysterio
We need free trade so we can ship our jobs to Mexico and pay workers $1 per day.

We're doing a poor job of shipping our jobs to Mexico.

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As you can see, since NAFTA passed in November 1993, we have added 23.2 million jobs.

We also need it so eventually we can become the North American Union.

Stop smoking that weed, it's bad for your lungs and your logic.

10 posted on 08/02/2006 9:22:09 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
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To: wolfpat

Agreed. Much of what is claimed to be "free trade" is just a bunch of slogans. The truth lies in the small print, hundreds of pages of it.


11 posted on 08/02/2006 9:22:34 AM PDT by Malesherbes
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To: Mase

I don't think you understand my point.


12 posted on 08/02/2006 9:25:14 AM PDT by wolfpat (To connect the dots, you have to collect the dots.)
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To: Malesherbes

Thank you. I was afraid I wasn't being clear.


13 posted on 08/02/2006 9:26:00 AM PDT by wolfpat (To connect the dots, you have to collect the dots.)
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To: wolfpat

Then call it freer trade.


14 posted on 08/02/2006 9:27:43 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
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To: Mase
I love low prices. I also would like lower taxes and a limited federal government that would spend less of the people's money on liberal welfare state programs that don't work and only undermine our Constitutional Republic. When it comes to trade, I agree with President Reagan:

"We hope that through these negotiations we will be able to convince our trading partners to stop their unfair trading practices and open those markets that are now closed to American exports. We will take countermeasures only as a last resort, but our trading partners should not doubt our determination to see international trade conducted fairly with the same rules applicable to all. I'm committed to and will continue to fight for fair trade. American exporters and American workers deserve a fair shake abroad, and we intend to see they get it. Our objective will always be to make world trading partnerships freer and fairer for all."

The USA was a unique creation by a group of men who fostered individual freedom, as much as individual responsibility. When individual states deal with each other, they're dealing within our Constitutional system of free and fair trade. This is not the case when the US deals with nations of the world. No one is suggesting we isolate ourselves or create strong protectionist trade barriers with other nations. But its critical that the Feds promote a conservative policy agenda on the issue of trade, that advances US sovereignty, US interests abroad, while it respects the right of individual Americans.

15 posted on 08/02/2006 9:34:00 AM PDT by Reagan Man (Conservatives don't support amnesty and conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Okay. That's a little more accurate.


16 posted on 08/02/2006 9:38:35 AM PDT by wolfpat (To connect the dots, you have to collect the dots.)
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To: Mase
how many "conservatives" on FR agree with these leftists.

Only on the FR; the rest of the country sees import tax hikes as a Democrat plank along with gay rights and abortion.  Last week I was fussing with Hedge over a import tax cut that just passed the Senate, and even I was surprised at how partisan it's become.

Let's face it; it's the liberal Democrats that love big government welfare import taxes and it's the Republicans that want tax-cuts and smaller government.

OK, its 90%+ of the Republicans that want import tax-cuts.

17 posted on 08/02/2006 9:44:28 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: wolfpat
So are you in favor of freer trade? Do we benefit when tariffs and barriers are lowered?
18 posted on 08/02/2006 9:45:23 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

I'm in favor of FREE trade.


19 posted on 08/02/2006 9:50:36 AM PDT by wolfpat (To connect the dots, you have to collect the dots.)
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To: wolfpat
I'm in favor of FREE trade.

A proposal to cut tariffs by 50% is no good, because it's not a 100% cut?

20 posted on 08/02/2006 9:51:41 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
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