Where’s The Compassion for Mel Gibson?

BOND Brotherhood Organization of a New Destiny ^ | 08/02/06 | Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson

[Wolfstar]

Believe me, since the time of Adam we all have crap in our minds. I think people should contemplate on their own inner id's as to why they are so gleeful about ripping Mr. Gibson for his drunken indiscretions. I suspect it may have to do with a certain movie he produced a couple of years back - but that's just my id talking...

Well said!

[churchillbuff]

If those Christian haters drive drunk and make anti-Christian statements to a policeman who pulls him over, then yes, I would say they need counseling too.

The Christian-haters in Hollywood make their anti-Christian movies when they're SOBER. That means they need counseling even more than Gibson - because at least he keeps his thoughts to himself when he's not demonized by alcohol.

[Stone Mountain]

Hehe, it's ok to crucify Mel about a stupid movie but if Mel says one bad thing about Jews he needs to be crucified. We're seeing a lot of hatred but it isn't from Mel.

I'm not nor have I ever criticized him for his movie. I'm criticizing him for endangering the lives of others by driving drunk, and for the disgusting racist sexist statements he made. Glad to clear that up for you.

I just reread your post. Are you actually saying that some people criticizing a movie is equivalent to Gibson making anti-Semitic statements about all Jews? Wow...

[churchillbuff]

We're seeing a lot of hatred but it isn't from Mel.

The folks jumping on Mel hardest are the same ones who hated him before, because he dared to make a movie about another person they apparently hate - Jesus Christ.

[Wolfstar]

Silverleaf is an aspiring commissar - a thought policeman who would like to order people who think "wrong" thoughts into reeducation programs (or camps?).

Well said, CB. There are far too many such people around here these days.

[churchillbuff]

some people criticizing a movie is equivalent to Gibson making anti-Semitic statements about all Jews?

I think Lenin's talking about the bigots who called Gibson a hater -- and worse -- for the "crime" of making a movie about the Christian Gospels. It's dishonest and disengenuous to say that these people were merely "criticizing" a movie (as if they were talking about its artistic merits): They were slurring Mel's Movie as, in essence, a hate crime. They went after him in the most vile ways -- the bigot Foxman leading the pack.

[Stone Mountain]

Isn't it possible that we don't have a problem with his movie, but we do have a problem with his endangering the lives of others by driving drunk and making disgusting racist sexist comments to the police. Somehow, I have to believe that if Michael Moore was caught in the same situation, I don't think everyone here would be rushing to accept his apology...

[John Lenin]

You may not have criticized the movie but what about the Jews who did criticize him ? And I'll bet they did more than just criticze. It's not like he walked into a synagog and shot 6 people, killing one.

He apologized and offered to work with the community, if you can't forgive him, it's you that has the hatred problem.

[churchillbuff]

I have to believe that if Michael Moore was caught in the same situation, I don't think everyone here would be rushing to accept his apology...

I can't imagine Michael Moore apologizing for leftist slurs, but if he did, sincerely, then I'd accept it. HEck, I'd accept the Dixie Chicks apology - if they gave one.

I haven't read anyone on FR, or anywhere else, defending what Gibson did. There's residual affection for him, because of his wonderful movie, The Passion, and people who liked that movie probably want to give the guy who made it -- a sinner -- the chance for redemption.

[Stone Mountain]

Nonetheless, it wasn't the "Jews" that were criticizing the movie - as I mentioned before, most didn't care. This is my point. There were some people who criticized and even slurred his movie. Some of them happened to be Jewish. Lenin is making the equivalency between some bigots criticizing or slurring Mel's movie and Mel criticizing all Jews. I don't buy it - I don't care what gibson was thinking - there's no good justification for the actions he took or the comments he made.

[TET1968]

Your posts remind me of a rabid hyena stuffing himself on another's kill.

[Stone Mountain]

You may not have criticized the movie but what about the Jews who did criticize him ? And I'll bet they did more than just criticze. It's not like he walked into a synagog and shot 6 people, killing one.

The Jews? You mean some Jews? Once again, I'll point out most didn't care. And it wasn't only Jews complaining about the movie.

But here's the point one more time. Just because some Jewish people complained about the Passion is not any kind of justification or even a good reason to make anti-semitic remarks about all Jews. It seems that both you and Gibson have trouble realizing that jews don't act or think as a monolith.

I'll bet they did more than just criticze.

What do you mean?

[Stone Mountain]

I can't imagine Michael Moore apologizing for leftist slurs, but if he did, sincerely, then I'd accept it. HEck, I'd accept the Dixie Chicks apology - if they gave one.

So you accepted Clintons apology?

[Stone Mountain]

He apologized and offered to work with the community, if you can't forgive him, it's you that has the hatred problem.

Talk is cheap. Anyone can issue an apology. Clinton apologized. I'll forgive him if he follows through with the actions he said he would take. Until then, I'll criticize him like I would criticize anyone else busted doing what he was doing.

[John Lenin]

I'll leave it to your imagination.

[Stone Mountain]

I can live with that. The nerve of me criticizing someone for what Gibson did - gee, that's tough. Sorry, I happen to have a major problem with those that endanger the lives of others by driving drunk, and those who make ugly statements to the police and trying to escape. Yeah, I guess I'm just a hardass.

[John Lenin]

What do you want him to do ? Kill himself ? Did Cindy Sheehan apologize for saying the same thing ? Did Al Sharpton apologize for Freddies ?

[Stone Mountain]

How about a hint? I really don't know what you're talking about...

[Stone Mountain]

What do you want him to do ? Kill himself ?

Nope, he's doing fine so far. His second apology and plans to rehabilitate himself were a step in the right direction. Nonetheless, he was endangering the lives of others and he made some unacceptable statements to the police, not to mention trying to drive off after he was pulled over. So, just because he issued an apology doesn't mean that I'm not going to criticize him. There's no excuse for what he did. Would you consider me just as much of a dick if he had rammed his car into a family killing them? Or am I supposed to believe that since he managed not to kill anyone that time, that he's not deserving of criticism?

[John Lenin]

But he didn't ram his car into anything nor did he kill anyone. Have you ever driven a car when you were really tired ? Just as dangerous. The issue isn't Mel driving drunk it's what he said to the cop.