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Report: Illegal Immigration Could Cost Taxpayers Trillions
10news.com ^ | August 2, 2006

Posted on 08/02/2006 7:42:11 PM PDT by Mount Athos

Future costs for illegal immigrants in the United States will reach a half a trillion dollars, a Heritage Foundation researcher said Wednesday at congressional hearing in San Diego.

The influx of illegal immigrants has effectively "imported about 10 million high school dropouts into the United States," said Robert Rector, a senior research fellow in welfare and family issues for the Washington, D.C.-based think tank.

Rector testified before the House Judiciary Committee, which convened at the Marine Corps Recruit Depot for one in a series of hearings on illegal immigration this month.

The hearings are a rebuttal to a Senate bill that House members believe will result in amnesty for illegal immigrants.

The topic of the discussion was the fiscal impacts of illegal immigration.

The National Academy of Sciences estimated that each immigrant will result in a $100,000 net annual cost to taxpayers.

Rector said once illegal immigrants become citizens they can bring family members into the country, straining education and health care budgets.

"This Senate bill will become the largest expansion of the welfare system in 30 years and it's the wrong thing to do," he said.

Wayne Cornelius, director of the Center for Comparative Immigration Studies at UC San Diego, said tighter border security would not stop or even discourage migrants from crossing into the country.

"Even if they are caught, they try again until they are successful," Cornelius told the committee. "Our research shows that 92 to 97 percent of them succeed on the first or second try."

According to Cornelius, his research team interviewed 1,300 migrants over the last 18 months.

Rep. James Sensenbrenner, R-Wis., the committee's chairman, said hospitals in the Southwestern United States are losing $190 million annually per year for uncompensated health care from illegal immigrants.

Nineteen percent of federal inmates are not citizens, he said.

Los Angeles County Supervisor Mike Antonovich said "illegal immigration tears at the moral and economic fabric of the country."

"The fiscal drain is catastrophic," Antonovich said.

According to Antonovich, 12 percent of the 10.2 million residents of Los Angeles County are illegal immigrants.

Thirty percent of public health patients in the county are illegal immigrants, he testified.

The hearing is one in a series being held nationwide at a time when the Senate and House of Representatives are deadlocked over competing immigration legislation.

House Republicans beginning with Sensenbrenner argue that the Senate bill, which provides a pathway to eventual legalized status for some illegal immigrants, amounts to an amnesty.

Democrats have dismissed the series of hearings as an election-year ploy not intended to produce genuine reform.

Rep. Howard Berman, D-Van Nuys, questioned the rationale for the hearings.

"These hearings are a con job on the American people," Berman said. "They want to avoid a conference (committee) because the bill splits their party and it is an election year."

Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Vista, said the hearings, 19 of which are scheduled this month, are "not a waste of time."

Issa said the House and Senate are deadlocked between stronger enforcement and amnesty. Issa said he believes the House will not get to a conference with the Senate on the issue before the November election.

The We Are America/Somos America Alliance said in a statement yesterday that Wednesday's hearing would only "further delay a meaningful solution to the nation's immigration crisis."

"Immigrants contribute to and participate in our society," it read.

The group said the House Judiciary Committee hearings "are intended to associate immigrants with terrorists and present this hard-working community as a drain our our society's resources."

Another Judiciary Committee hearing on immigration was held early last month at an Imperial Beach U.S. Border Patrol station. The next is scheduled to be held in Santee on Saturday.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; federalspending; hr4437; illegalimmigration; illegals; immigrantlist; pricetag; robertrector
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1 posted on 08/02/2006 7:42:12 PM PDT by Mount Athos
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To: Mount Athos
C-Span continues to treat the hearings like they are radioactive.
2 posted on 08/02/2006 7:46:52 PM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: Mount Athos
""Immigrants contribute to and participate in our society," it read. "

That's ILLEGAL immigrants to you sucker.
And yeah , they have contributed up to a million sex crimes, over $70 billion worth of cocaine every year, and tens of thousands of murders.
3 posted on 08/02/2006 7:48:21 PM PDT by Jameison
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To: HiJinx; gubamyster; A. Pole

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4 posted on 08/02/2006 7:48:52 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: Mount Athos

bttt


5 posted on 08/02/2006 7:49:40 PM PDT by dennisw (Confucius say man who go through turnstile sideways going to Bangkok)
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To: Mount Athos
"These hearings are a con job on the American people," Berman said.

Naaah.
The Senate Shamensty Bill IS the con job.
The hearings are shinning the light of day on the more evil parts of the senate con job.
6 posted on 08/02/2006 7:50:22 PM PDT by Jameison
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To: Mount Athos
The influx of illegal immigrants has effectively "imported about 10 million high school dropouts into the United States," said Robert Rector, a senior research fellow in welfare and family issues for the Washington, D.C.-based think tank.

No kidding. And why does the last superpower, a technologically advanced country need uneducated, illiterate workers? We're getting enough of those from what our education system produces.
7 posted on 08/02/2006 7:53:11 PM PDT by CottonBall
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To: rockabyebaby; whatisthetruth; jeremiah; Tarkus2040

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8 posted on 08/02/2006 7:53:45 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: La Enchiladita; kstewskis

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9 posted on 08/02/2006 7:54:23 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: Mount Athos

bump


10 posted on 08/02/2006 7:54:39 PM PDT by VOA
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To: ncountylee

are they not covering them? What do you mean


11 posted on 08/02/2006 7:54:41 PM PDT by Mount Athos
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To: Jameison
Other than up to a million sex crimes, over $70 billion worth of cocaine every year, and tens of thousands of murders .... what have the illegal aliens done for us?


12 posted on 08/02/2006 7:55:44 PM PDT by Hodar (With Rights, come Responsibilities. Don't assume one, without assuming the other.)
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To: Mount Athos
I don't believe many are covered.
13 posted on 08/02/2006 7:56:38 PM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: calcowgirl; NormsRevenge; Ernest_at_the_Beach

ping


14 posted on 08/02/2006 8:00:43 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: Mount Athos
Bush Policy. It doesn't matter who you vote for, you still get screwed if you're just Joe Taxpayer. Drug benefits, "guest workers", and the good old partnership with Teddie on the "No child left behind" (his personal guarantee for public school success teddie musta had his fingers crossed), are faults of this Republican administration, led by Mr.bush.

I'm glad he's got good war advisors, put a few judges in, and gave us John Bolton, at least!

I'm just sick of seeing my country going to shit with this government's assistance!

15 posted on 08/02/2006 8:02:25 PM PDT by pageonetoo (You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
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To: Mount Athos
The National Academy of Sciences estimated that each immigrant will result in a $100,000 net annual cost to taxpayers.

I agree that illegals are a net cost, but let's do the math.

1,000,000 illegals x $100,000 = $100,000,000,000 (that's 100 billion) annually. Doesn't add up.

16 posted on 08/02/2006 8:04:05 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
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To: ncountylee

I can make up imaginary numbers too.

The half a trillion number is ridiculous.


17 posted on 08/02/2006 8:06:45 PM PDT by tdewey10 (It's time for the party to return to the principles of President Reagan.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

There are 12-20 million illegals.
It does add up.


18 posted on 08/02/2006 8:09:40 PM PDT by oldbill
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To: Mount Athos

The only contributions the ILLEGAL immigrants are causing is making folk like us pay through the nose for their freebies! We are being TAX to death in Texas cause the ILLEGAL situation has gotten outta hand! Remember, the state can slap a law suit on any school district, hospital, housing who denies education and the rest of the stuff to any child who crosses the border on a daily basis to get free schooling and the rest at our expense! BUILD THE DAMN WALL NOW!!


19 posted on 08/02/2006 8:18:22 PM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

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20 posted on 08/02/2006 8:21:25 PM PDT by gubamyster
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To: kellynla

Bump!


21 posted on 08/02/2006 8:28:02 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
If there were only 1 million Criminals who overstay their visas or those who just INVADE, we would have a much smaller problem!
22 posted on 08/02/2006 8:39:20 PM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto")
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To: RoseofTexas
The only contributions the ILLEGAL immigrants are causing is making folk like us pay through the nose for their freebies!

If you think Texas is bad, you should see California! We have been colonized, and it won't be long until we're outnumbered by illegals from Mexico.

The WIMPS IN WASHINGTON won't do a thing about it, we're nothing to them but a money machine.

We'll be in a hell of a fix when the takers outnumber the givers.

23 posted on 08/02/2006 8:51:26 PM PDT by janetgreen (YES, Mr. Bush, it IS an invasion, and Americans want it stopped NOW!)
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To: oldbill
There are 12-20 million illegals.
It does add up.

No it doesn't. From the article:
Future costs for illegal immigrants in the United States will reach a half a trillion dollars

12 million would be $1.2 trillion a year. 20 million would be $2 trillion.

24 posted on 08/02/2006 9:00:39 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
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To: Mount Athos
Report: Illegal Immigration Could Cost Taxpayers Trillions

Yeah, but look at all the money we are saving on vegetables and yard work.

25 posted on 08/02/2006 9:58:42 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

From the article, it says the Heritage Foundation researcher pegs the cost at a half-trillion. The National Academy of Sciences pegs the cost at $100,000/yr. per illegal. I don't know that the NAS is the same as the Heritage Foundation researcher, but it may be that they're coming up with different numbers.


26 posted on 08/02/2006 10:23:09 PM PDT by Proud2BAmerican
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To: Mount Athos
"The National Academy of Sciences estimated that each immigrant will result in a $100,000 net annual cost to taxpayers."

100k ?? A year for each? That pegs the BS meter to the red line.
27 posted on 08/02/2006 10:24:26 PM PDT by Beagle8U (Liberals get up every morning and eat a big box of "STUPID" for breakfast)
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To: Beagle8U
100k ?? A year for each? That pegs the BS meter to the red line.

It's an average, not a median. Look at health care and education costs picked up by the taxpayer on say a family of 5 (and wife pregnant again) plus 2 elderly parents 1 with cancer. Am I exaggerating? Come watch the entrance at a Texas Walmart.

28 posted on 08/03/2006 12:19:53 AM PDT by MrEdd (This is how it starts- jerkhackers dupin rarez)
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To: Mount Athos

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29 posted on 08/03/2006 1:37:57 AM PDT by SR 50 (Larry)
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To: Mount Athos; Willie Green; Wolfie; ex-snook; Jhoffa_; FITZ; arete; FreedomPoster; Red Jones; ...
The National Academy of Sciences estimated that each immigrant will result in a $100,000 net annual cost to taxpayers.

Even if it were true, private employers will make some money and this what free market is about. In addition this helps to keep wages low for native workers.

30 posted on 08/03/2006 4:52:26 AM PDT by A. Pole (Hush Bimbo: "Low wage is good for you!")
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Doesn't add up.

It does. Several millions plus relatives.

31 posted on 08/03/2006 4:56:03 AM PDT by A. Pole (Hush Bimbo: "Low wage is good for you!")
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To: Toddsterpatriot

"1,000,000 illegals x $100,000 = $100,000,000,000 (that's 100 billion) annually. Doesn't add up."

It's close enough to be felt by all taxpayers!....conservative estimates by Heritage Foundation put the cost of illegals to California taxpayers alone at 10 billion last year.


32 posted on 08/03/2006 5:03:10 AM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: MrEdd
"It's an average, not a median. Look at health care and education costs picked up by the taxpayer on say a family of 5 (and wife pregnant again) plus 2 elderly parents 1 with cancer. Am I exaggerating? Come watch the entrance at a Texas Walmart."

Good point. Illegals breed like rabbits because they don't have to worry about paying for anything.
33 posted on 08/03/2006 5:04:41 AM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: MrEdd
"It's an average, not a median. Look at health care and education costs picked up by the taxpayer on say a family of 5 (and wife pregnant again) plus 2 elderly parents 1 with cancer. Am I exaggerating?"

Using the figures in the article they would cost taxpayers 700k a year. Yes, I would say thats BS.
34 posted on 08/03/2006 5:07:32 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Liberals get up every morning and eat a big box of "STUPID" for breakfast)
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To: A. Pole

And that is all that many politicos care about. Keeping wages low.


35 posted on 08/03/2006 5:24:10 AM PDT by Hydroshock ( (Proverbs 22:7). The rich ruleth over the poor, and the borrower is servant to the lender.)
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To: taxed2death
Here in Austin, KLBJ is talking about another illegal issue. The city wants to pay employees an additional $150 per month if they can speak Spanish. That will cost the city taxpayers about $760,000 per year. I'm glad I don't live in Austin.
36 posted on 08/03/2006 5:28:30 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (The media and the democrats are the biggest supporters of the terrorists.)
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To: A. Pole
Even if it were true, private employers will make some money and this what free market is about. In addition this helps to keep wages low for native workers.

Huh? Explain again how the illegal alien problem strengthens America... I can't wait to hear it.
37 posted on 08/03/2006 5:54:14 AM PDT by snowrip (Liberal? YOU HAVE NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT. Actually, you lack even a legitimate excuse.)
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To: Mount Athos

Send the illegals home BUMP!


38 posted on 08/03/2006 6:03:49 AM PDT by conservativecorner
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To: snowrip
Huh? Explain again how the illegal alien problem strengthens America... I can't wait to hear it.

It makes labor cheaper. By straining the social services it might create conditions for dismantling wasteful New Deal legacy. It will help to keep lower classes down as it is done in Latin America. In addition it will provide a large poll of inexpensive and expendable soldiers to fight wars anywhere on the globe. Cheap and numerous servants are not bad either.

39 posted on 08/03/2006 6:10:56 AM PDT by A. Pole (Hush Bimbo: "Low wage is good for you!")
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To: Proud2BAmerican
but it may be that they're coming up with different numbers.

Well, what do you know? That's what I've been saying. :^)

40 posted on 08/03/2006 6:25:58 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
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To: taxed2death
conservative estimates by Heritage Foundation put the cost of illegals to California taxpayers alone at 10 billion last year.

Great, but how many illegals does California have?

California's nearly 3 million illegal immigrants cost taxpayers nearly $9 billion each year, according to a new report released last week by the Federation for American Immigration Reform, a Washington, D.C.-based group that promotes stricter immigration policies.

Cost of illegal immigration in California estimated at nearly $9 billion

According to this older article, 3,000,000 illegals cost $9,000,000,000. I'll do the math for you, that's $3,000 each.

41 posted on 08/03/2006 6:37:29 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
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To: Hodar

Inapt. Monty Python comics were not illegal aliens.


42 posted on 08/03/2006 6:46:10 AM PDT by Paul Ross (We cannot be for lawful ordinances and for an alien conspiracy at one and the same moment.-Cicero)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

That's $3000.00 to much if you ask me. Let's not fight about figures, let's take care of the problem.


43 posted on 08/03/2006 6:48:07 AM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: Beagle8U
100k ?? A year for each? That pegs the BS meter to the red line

Surprised you have such a biassed outlook, that is so blindered. Looks like about right based on the continuing ongoing catastrophic impacts on education, with imposed ESL, health care (with Emergency Rooms and hospitals having to close), welfare supports, (housing, food stamps etc.) that they suck up...and give the Welfare Bureaucracy "Job Security."

Take away the Illegals, and the Bureaucracy will be looking for jobs.

44 posted on 08/03/2006 6:51:39 AM PDT by Paul Ross (We cannot be for lawful ordinances and for an alien conspiracy at one and the same moment.-Cicero)
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To: taxed2death
That's $3000.00 to much if you ask me.

I agree.

Let's not fight about figures, let's take care of the problem.

Great. Build a wall and send them back.

45 posted on 08/03/2006 6:52:14 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

"According to this older article, 3,000,000 illegals cost $9,000,000,000. I'll do the math for you, that's $3,000 each."

I wonder what low wage, uninsured American citizens cost taxpayers a year? I'll bet its close to the same $3000.

Illegals are a problem that needs to be stopped, but the costs come from socialism programs, that needs to be stopped also.


46 posted on 08/03/2006 6:55:10 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Liberals get up every morning and eat a big box of "STUPID" for breakfast)
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To: Paul Ross
Looks like about right based on the continuing ongoing catastrophic impacts on education, with imposed ESL, health care (with Emergency Rooms and hospitals having to close), welfare supports, (housing, food stamps etc.) that they suck up...and give the Welfare Bureaucracy "Job Security."

How much does all that cost? Divided by how many illegals? Do the math Paul, we'll wait.

47 posted on 08/03/2006 6:57:41 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
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To: Beagle8U
Illegals are a problem that needs to be stopped, but the costs come from socialism programs, that needs to be stopped also.

Exactly. Immigrants weren't a problem in the past. Work or starve. Now that they can spend taxpayer money, they are a problem.

Build a wall, send them back.

48 posted on 08/03/2006 6:59:13 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
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To: Paul Ross
"Surprised you have such a biassed outlook, that is so blindered."

No bias, no blinders, I just don't believe the 100k part, 10k perhaps.
49 posted on 08/03/2006 7:02:59 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Liberals get up every morning and eat a big box of "STUPID" for breakfast)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
California's nearly 3 million illegal immigrants cost taxpayers nearly $9 billion each year

I think there are more than 3 million here in California, but the fact that we are forced to support any of them to the tune of several billion dollars every year is outrageous, and the politicians supporting this invasion should be ousted, all of them.

It is not the responsibility of the American taxpayer to support illegal invaders. Washington wants us to believe that it is.

50 posted on 08/03/2006 8:58:23 AM PDT by janetgreen (YES, Mr. Bush, it IS an invasion, and Americans want it stopped NOW!)
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