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Defense Budget Tutorial: So, You Think You Know the Cost of the Wars?
Center for defense information ^ | 08/01/2006 | Winslow Wheeler

Posted on 08/04/2006 12:09:54 PM PDT by Republicain

In a seemingly welcome exercise of congressional oversight, Rep. Christopher Shays, R-Conn., held hearings on the cost of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. He’s the chairman of the subcommittee on National Security, Emerging Threats, and International Relations of the House Government Reform and Oversight Committee. He required testimony by all three congressional research agencies (the Congressional Research Service [CRS], the Congressional Budget Office [CBO], and the Government Accountability Office [GAO]) and by the departments of State and Defense.

War Cost Estimates

CRS estimated the cost of the wars per the table below.

(Excerpt) Read more at cdi.org ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cost; deaniac; defensebudget; dncmouthpiece; govwatch; iraq; us; war; waronterror

1 posted on 08/04/2006 12:09:55 PM PDT by Republicain
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To: Republicain

They never estimate how much it would cost if we didn't have a war, and as with any business it's the net profits that count, not the expenditures .


2 posted on 08/04/2006 12:17:25 PM PDT by seastay
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To: Republicain

Interesting article.

Looks like the DOD needs to train a couple of hundred more good accountants and get with the program, though.


3 posted on 08/04/2006 12:18:41 PM PDT by Smogger (It's the WOT Stupid)
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To: Smogger

911 cost 1 trillion, so this looks like a bargain to me.


4 posted on 08/04/2006 12:40:00 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: ClaireSolt
You get a prize for a shining moment of intellectual and moral clarity.

If we don't fight these bags of crap overseas and crush their networks, the day will come when we lose a city. I wonder how much that will cost?

5 posted on 08/04/2006 12:42:38 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (NewsMax gives aid and comfort to the enemy-- http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1642052/posts)
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To: Republicain
Nice scumbag statistical manipulation. Take all the Defense appropriations, including a whole bunch of pork barrel spending by RINO Media whores like Shay and throw it all into one pot and call it the "Cost of the War"

Sorry but a knowing falsehood is what is know as a lie. I understand why you Leftists are confused. You routinely define LIE as a truth you don't want to hear and "truth" as what you want to believe. I can see why the Leftist Butt Clowns like Shay get confused.

Hey Shay, how much of that Defense budget being spent in CT are you going to give back? I suggest we simply close all bases in CT and end all Defense Contracts to Shay's state. Since he finds the cost of Defense so onerous, let him "Give back to the taxpayers".
6 posted on 08/04/2006 12:43:25 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Fire Murtha Now! Spread the word. Support Diana Irey. http://www.irey.com/)
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To: Republicain
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Republicain Since Nov 8, 2005

My what a clever little DNC Virtual Campaigner you are.

7 posted on 08/04/2006 12:45:40 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Fire Murtha Now! Spread the word. Support Diana Irey. http://www.irey.com/)
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To: Republicain
Yo In the Closet Deaniac. Think MAYBE you might want to be a bit more critical in choosing your sources? Yeah a group funded by Chinese Intelligence is real credible.

LIKE this outfit is ever going to actually present an intellectually honest, serious assessment. Classic case of Garbage in/Garbage out Statistical Manifpuklation and blatant propaganda.

http://www.cdi.org/about/index.cfm

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Center for Defense Information

Mission Statement

The Center for Defense Information is dedicated to strengthening security through: international cooperation; reduced reliance on unilateral military power to resolve conflict; reduced reliance on nuclear weapons; a transformed and reformed military establishment; and, prudent oversight of, and spending on, defense programs.


CDI seeks to contribute alternative views on security to promote wide-ranging discourse and debate. CDI educates the public and informs policy-makers about issues of security policy, strategy, operations, weapon systems and defense budgeting, and pursues creative solutions to the problems of today and tomorrow.


CDI is part of the World Security Institute, whose divisions include the Center for Defense Information, International Media, the Pulitzer Center on Crisis Reporting, Azimuth Media and International Programs with offices in Brussels and Moscow, and projects in China.
8 posted on 08/04/2006 12:50:30 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Fire Murtha Now! Spread the word. Support Diana Irey. http://www.irey.com/)
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To: Republicain

To win a war, nations must spend whatever is necessary. If there's a question of whether one can afford to go to war, the question becomes whether one should be considering war at all.


9 posted on 08/04/2006 12:53:01 PM PDT by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com)
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To: Republicain
And does Congressman Shays offer us a Life-cycle Cost Estimate on how much it costs to get our asses kicked by Moqtada until our rectums tickle the backs of our throats?
10 posted on 08/04/2006 1:33:41 PM PDT by .cnI redruM (Those who don't fight evil condemn those who do.)
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To: Republicain

Yes, it is expensive, but as the Lib bumper sticker says: "One Nuclear Bomb Can Ruin Your Whole Day."


11 posted on 08/04/2006 1:52:39 PM PDT by keithtoo (Israeli defense strategy "Cogito Ergo Boom!")
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To: Republicain

Here is a cost effective way to advance, a bombing campaign of $10 Billion would reduce Iran's GDP by $100 billion or more, and Terrorist funding by $100's of millions.

I believe this would significantly improve our strategic position in the War on Terror.

We should destroy the Iranian oil industry. By Bombing all oil transportation facilities, pipelines, storage tanks, tanker trucks, rolling stock, refinery’s etc… we can cripple the funding of numerous terrorist organizations, Hezbollah, Hama’s, Sadr’s militia, Syria, as well as make it more difficult for Iran to buy missiles and such from North Korea, China, and Russia.
It would remove Iran’s threat that if we attack they will shut off the oil. Making the threat ridiculous and demonstrating that they are a single product state and without oil, and no other product that the world wants, they are nothing. Additionally, by declaring that we will destroy any reconstituting oil industry as long as the Mullacracy remains in charge, we can focus the Iranian’s blame for the situation, on the Theocracy and their support of Terrorism.
This will also bring home to all the other oil producing countries like Venezuela, Libya, Saudi Arabia, the Gulf States, etc… that they are very vulnerable to the same tactic.
In addition, this will gain us time for the Iraqi’s to stand on their own, and free up troops we would need if we have to go into Iran, North Korea or somewhere else.
Sure the price of gas will rise, but this will also demonstrate to the world that the USA is not in Iraq for the Oil, and the onus can be shifted on to the Democrats for not allowing more domestic production.
“It’s not the control of the spice but the power to destroy the spice that is the real power.”
It has recently been said that the nuclear production facilities in Iran are so deep underground that we can’t reach them with conventional weapons. Perhaps so, but maybe we can starve those facilities of funds. Nuclear weapons are terribly expensive to build, and if Iran now needs all its money to repair vital life supporting infrastructure, it may have to slow or stop its attempt to build an atomic bomb.
Finally, Iran is a state sponsor of Terrorists, it must be punished, and it must be seen to be punished. Iran’s continued sponsorship of terror is a slap in America’s and President Bush’s face, and it must be answered.
The following was written in response to an objection I received about having to pay more for fuel if this strategy was followed.
I think you are overly concerned about the economic considerations, and not concerned enough about the need to prosecute the War on Terror to the utmost.
1. The US has a full Strategic Petroleum Reserve of 700 million Barrels, and we aren't the only nation with an SPR. What good is it if you never use it? The average price paid on that 700 million barrels was $27, so the nation would actually make a profit selling it now.
2. The only reason the US isn't energy independent now is because of political factors. 2 Trillion Barrels of oil in oil shale (see www.oiltechinc.com). Any organic matter can be turned into fuel (see www.powerenergy.com). The US would and should be using much more Nuclear power if it wasn't for the Ecofreaks. There are also many areas in the US that are now off limits to drilling. All it takes is the political will to develop all of these. Higher fuel prices will provide that political pressure.
3. Iran is using diplomatic processes, just like the Nazi's before them. Talking is a waste of our time.
4. Iran subsidizes gas at $.10 a gallon, so by destroying the Iranian oil industry not only do we instantly remove 20% of their GDP. We put them all on foot, and in the dark.
5. The mullahs want to take their world back to the 7th century, we should assist them.


12 posted on 08/04/2006 9:11:43 PM PDT by Eagle74 (From time to time the tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots)
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