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The Welfare State: The Root of Europe’s Problems
Brussels Journal ^ | 3 August 2006 | By Fjordman

Posted on 08/04/2006 2:46:01 PM PDT by shrinkermd

I have heard comments from people who thought Fjordman was from Sweden, because I write at least as much about Sweden as I do about my own country, Norway. There are several reasons for this. The most important one is that Sweden is probably one of the worst, if not the worst, country in the Western world when it comes to Political Correctness. Norway is pretty bad, Sweden is absolutely insane. Which makes it fun to write about.

The other reason is that Sweden is the largest and best known of the Scandinavian countries. When people in Canada or the USA discuss the Scandinavian welfare state, they usually talk about the “Swedish model,” not the “Norwegian model.” The Swedish welfare state was presented during the Cold War as a middle way between capitalism and Communism. When this model of a society collapses – and it will collapse – it is thus not just the Swedish welfare state that will collapse but the symbol of Sweden, the showcase of an entire ideological world view.

(Excerpt) Read more at brusselsjournal.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: eurabia; europe; postmodernism; socialism; sweden; welfarestate
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Long, thoughtful and with quotes from both Eric Hoffer and Dr. Theodore Dalrymple
1 posted on 08/04/2006 2:46:02 PM PDT by shrinkermd
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To: shrinkermd; All
Dalrymple came immediately to mind.
2 posted on 08/04/2006 2:52:41 PM PDT by dighton
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To: shrinkermd

Thanks for posting. Brussells Journal is a fine publication.


3 posted on 08/04/2006 2:59:15 PM PDT by RKV ( He who has the guns, makes the rules.)
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To: shrinkermd

Yes, but the public schooling system is the root of the welfare system.


4 posted on 08/04/2006 3:04:15 PM PDT by TeenagedConservative
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To: shrinkermd

When the welfare state in Europe does finally collapse, in terms of income to its citizens, THEN you will see a major bloodletting against the Muslims in Europe. They will get the blame.


5 posted on 08/04/2006 3:05:24 PM PDT by expatpat
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To: shrinkermd
The Gods of the Copybook Headings - R. Kipling

AS I PASS through my incarnations in every age and race, I make my proper prostrations to the Gods of the Market Place. Peering through reverent fingers I watch them flourish and fall, And the Gods of the Copybook Headings, I notice, outlast them all

We were living in trees when they met us. They showed us each in turn That Water would certainly wet us, as Fire would certainly burn: But we found them lacking in Uplift, Vision and Breadth of Mind, So we left them to teach the Gorillas while we followed the March of Mankind.

We moved as the Spirit listed. They never altered their pace, Being neither cloud nor wind-borne like the Gods of the Market Place, But they always caught up with our progress, and presently word would come That a tribe had been wiped off its icefield, or the lights had gone out in Rome.

With the Hopes that our World is built on they were utterly out of touch, They denied that the Moon was Stilton; they denied she was even Dutch; They denied that Wishes were Horses; they denied that a Pig had Wings; So we worshipped the Gods of the Market Who promised these beautiful things.

When the Cambrian measures were forming, They promised perpetual peace. They swore, if we gave them our weapons, that the wars of the tribes would cease. But when we disarmed They sold us and delivered us bound to our foe, And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: "Stick to the Devil you know."

On the first Feminian Sandstones we were promised the Fuller Life (Which started by loving our neighbour and ended by loving his wife) Till our women had no more children and the men lost reason and faith, And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: "The Wages of Sin is Death."

In the Carboniferous Epoch we were promised abundance for all, By robbing selected Peter to pay for collective Paul; But, though we had plenty of money, there was nothing our money could buy, And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: "If you don't work you die."

Then the Gods of the Market tumbled, and their smooth-tongued wizards withdrew And the hearts of the meanest were humbled and began to believe it was true That All is not Gold that Glitters, and Two and Two make Four And the Gods of the Copybook Headings limped up to explain it once more.

As it will be in the future, it was at the birth of Man There are only four things certain since Social Progress began. That the Dog returns to his Vomit and the Sow returns to her Mire, And the burnt Fool's bandaged finger goes wabbling back to the Fire; And that after this is accomplished, and the brave new world begins When all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins, As surely as Water will wet us, as surely as Fire will bum, The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

6 posted on 08/04/2006 3:12:47 PM PDT by NaughtiusMaximus (WARNING: Alcohol may cause you to think you are whispering when you are definitely not.)
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To: dighton

From the writings of old Theodore it sounds like the UK is falling fast down that hole itself. How far behind are we?


7 posted on 08/04/2006 3:12:53 PM PDT by GeronL (http://www.mises.org/story/1975 <--no such thing as a fairtax)
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To: expatpat
THEN you will see a major bloodletting against the Muslims in Europe. They will get the blame.

will that be before or after they go after the jews? The jews seem to always be on their list somewhere.

8 posted on 08/04/2006 3:14:08 PM PDT by GeronL (http://www.mises.org/story/1975 <--no such thing as a fairtax)
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To: GeronL

Theodore Kipling?


9 posted on 08/04/2006 3:15:16 PM PDT by Richard Kimball (The most important thing is sincerity. Once you can fake that, everything else is easy.)
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To: shrinkermd

Great article. Read every word, it's worth it.


10 posted on 08/04/2006 3:17:35 PM PDT by keithtoo (Israeli defense strategy "Cogito Ergo Boom!")
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To: shrinkermd
Long, thoughtful and with quotes from both Eric Hoffer and Dr. Theodore Dalrymple

Interesting that, like vritually all observers, he totally ignores the fact that neutral Sweden, lingering by virtue of geography in the shadow of the NATO umbrella, has been able to squander its wealth without shouldering the cost of a serious national defense.

11 posted on 08/04/2006 3:19:41 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Richard Kimball

No. Rudyard Dalrymple... I mean Theodore Dalrymple


12 posted on 08/04/2006 3:24:47 PM PDT by GeronL (http://www.mises.org/story/1975 <--no such thing as a fairtax)
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To: shrinkermd

Live in Sweden sounds like life on one of Canada's Indian Reserves, oops, First Nations.

Cradle to the grave security, with an emphasis on the latter.


13 posted on 08/04/2006 3:25:18 PM PDT by headsonpikes (Genocide is the highest sacrament of socialism.)
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To: GeronL

I'm not sure you'll see the reaction everyone's predicting. In modern Europe, the attitude seems to be, "If surrender doesn't work, surrender some more." According to an article I read recently, nearly 90% of the rapes in Scandinavia are by either first or second generation immigrants (you know what that's a code word for). Yet, there seems to be little outrage or concern. If Scandinavian men started walking the streets, defending women against these rapes, the law enforcement authorities and the politicians would decry them as vigilantes, and work furiously to put them in jail. Europe has already won 3/4 of the war for the Muzzies by aborting their future and disarming their population. When a society will not defend it's women from rape, there is no society worth defending. I believe they will paint themselves into a corner where they have no realistic options. They will be old, disarmed and outnumbered. Then they will die like chickens being throttled for market.


14 posted on 08/04/2006 3:25:49 PM PDT by Richard Kimball (The most important thing is sincerity. Once you can fake that, everything else is easy.)
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To: GeronL

I do the same thing all the time. I think it's because they're from the same era, and had quite a few similarities in appearance. Nice to know I'm not the only one.


15 posted on 08/04/2006 3:28:21 PM PDT by Richard Kimball (The most important thing is sincerity. Once you can fake that, everything else is easy.)
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More grist for Dalrymple’s mill.
16 posted on 08/04/2006 3:32:20 PM PDT by dighton
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To: dighton

thats just absurd huh?


17 posted on 08/04/2006 3:36:56 PM PDT by GeronL (http://www.mises.org/story/1975 <--no such thing as a fairtax)
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To: shrinkermd

That's why the democrats are do-nothings when they get in power.


18 posted on 08/04/2006 3:39:07 PM PDT by tkathy (Einstein: Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance.)
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To: hinckley buzzard
Interesting that, like vritually all observers, he totally ignores the fact that neutral Sweden, lingering by virtue of geography in the shadow of the NATO umbrella, has been able to squander its wealth without shouldering the cost of a serious national defense

Sweden had very large national defense same was as Swiss. That is why Sweden has large and modern military industry.

19 posted on 08/04/2006 3:44:55 PM PDT by A. Pole (GBW: "We're going to help build a virtual border, this border is changing and it needs to change")
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To: shrinkermd
A millennia of feudalism has left the Europeans deeply suspicious of those who accumulate too much wealth.

Unfortunately, that ideology doesn't fit well in an opportunity oriented and entrepreneurial 21st century. This has lead directly to America's dominance over the last 25 years or more. Might be just as well that they haven't figured it out yet.
20 posted on 08/04/2006 3:46:51 PM PDT by Wiseghy ("You want to break this army? Then break your word to it.")
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