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Officials: U.S., France reach Mideast resolution (US Appeasement?)
Yahoo/AP ^ | 8/5/2006 | AP

Posted on 08/05/2006 8:00:16 AM PDT by tobyhill

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To: Palladin; Bush gal in LA; NorCalRepub; wmfights; tobyhill; hershey; meandog; American in Israel; ...
Okay, people, I found something. I report, you decide. This article I found in a muslim nation's publication reports ...

Hezbollah not to blame for war, reports show
Malaysia Sun/Big News Network
Friday 4th August, 2006

The Lebanese government regards Hezbollah as a legitimate resistance group. It operates exclusively within Lebanon, was set up as a result of the 1982 invasion and occupation by Israel, and is largely credited within Lebanon, and internationally, as playing a major part in bringing the Israeli occupation to an end.

…Prime Minister Fuad Saniora in recent days has thanked and praised Hezbollah. The group's relevance had been declining since May 2000 but was well regarded for its history of resistance. In southern Lebanon it was overwhelmingly successful in recent national elections. There were processes underway which were bringing about the integration of Hezbollah into the political system, indeed a number of members joined the government. Hezbollah is a giant humanitarian group in Lebanon, and provides social assistance and relief to a vast spectrum of the population. The organization has built a large number of hospitals, clinics, and schools. It also opposes corruption.

But don't stop there ... this article is "interesting" reading, including an Olmert "flashback:"

141 posted on 08/05/2006 6:28:55 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Make your choice and save your tears....AM YISRAEL CHAI!)
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To: tobyhill
I just posted this passage from a book on another thread, but it bears considering within this context of appeasement through the U.N. We are way past the point of negotiating.

From "Genghis Khan and the Making of the Modern World" by Jack Weatherford:

Genghis Khan recognized that warfare was not a sporting contest or a mere match between rivals; it was a total commitment of one people against another. Victory did not come to the one who played by the rules; it came to the one who made the rules and imposed them on his enemy. Triumph could not be partial. It was complete, total, and undeniable--or it was nothing. In battle, this meant the unbridled use of terror and surprise. In peace, it meant the steadfast adherence to a few basic but unwavering principles that created loyalty among the common people. Resistance would be met with death, loyalty with security.

142 posted on 08/05/2006 6:47:16 PM PDT by gotribe (It's not a religion.)
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To: tobyhill
The hate Israel first crowd are working overtime.
143 posted on 08/05/2006 7:12:01 PM PDT by Earthdweller
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To: La Enchiladita

This was exactly my first thought as I read through this resolution. My second thought was for the 220 Marines, 18 Navy and 3 Army who were murdered by the Hez in 1983, as well as all the other terror attacks these pigs have committed. I'm sure there are plenty of pros and cons to this so called agreement, I can see all the opinions, but it still breaks my heart to think we were a party to ANYTHING having to do with this ilk short of serving them up a fast trip to martyrdom. The promise to never negotiate with terrorists has now been broken.


144 posted on 08/05/2006 7:20:57 PM PDT by hegemony
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To: Bogtrotter52

Maybe we were trying to give Israel as much time as they needed?


145 posted on 08/05/2006 7:50:31 PM PDT by GeronL (http://www.mises.org/story/1975 <--no such thing as a fairtax)
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To: pleikumud
Oh boy, just imagine the world press if we do. Iran can supply all the weapons it wants to Hezbollah, but if the USA is found out to be shipping weapons to Israel it'll be treated as the 2nd coming of Hitler.

Blast, that's what's happening now isn't it?

146 posted on 08/05/2006 9:04:42 PM PDT by pctech
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To: tobyhill

"Bolton refused to comment on the text, but an official with knowledge of the document said the draft calls for a “full cessation of violence” between Israel and Hezbollah, but would allow Israel the right to launch strikes if Hezbollah attacks it."

Isn't this already taking place? This UN stuff is a joke and it holds no water.


147 posted on 08/05/2006 9:33:35 PM PDT by klimeckg ("The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men.")
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To: tobyhill

There once was a little kid (hezbollah) who kept throwing rocks (missiles) at a neighborhood dog (Israel). One day the dog attacked the kids and the whole neighborhood got mad at the dog. Maybe if the kid (hezbollah) learned to STOP MESSING WITH THE DOG, this crap wouldn't happen. Let Israel beat the living hell out of hezbollah and kill all of them and we won't have to worry about them anymore. If I were president I'd tell Israel to handle the problem however they see fit. And when the arabs complain I'd tell them to take their punishment.


148 posted on 08/05/2006 9:39:29 PM PDT by rfreedom4u (Native Texan)
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To: MindBender26
Rather than destroying the next few dozen Katushas you find, save them. Then shoot them from inside Lebanon into Israel, (into some field outside Kiryat Shimona. That's where the media is. Let them get good pictures, etc.)

Blame Hizbollah for breaking the ceasefire. Ramp it up again.

That might work in some alternate universe, but not in this one, with the media and the left ready to pounce on any Israeli misstep. In fact, this story line -- Israel firing at itself as provocation -- is surely in Hezbollah's strategy files at their office of disinformation.

149 posted on 08/06/2006 3:55:05 AM PDT by browardchad
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To: NorCalRepub
I think the Bush Admin is getting worried about Lebanon

The whole edifice of the phony "nations"of post-Ottoman Arabia is collapsing.

There won't be a "Lebanon" in ten years. What's interesting is why our government wants to preserve the status quo, when we should be trying to destroy it.

150 posted on 08/06/2006 3:59:37 AM PDT by Jim Noble (I say we take off and nuke the site from orbit - it's the only way to be sure.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; MomofMarine; radar101; RobbyS; isaac32; RedWhiteAndBlueBlood; ...
If you'd like to be on this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.

High Volume. Articles on Israel can also be found by clicking on the Topic or Keyword Israel.

also Keywords 2006israelwar or WOT [War on Terror]

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151 posted on 08/06/2006 2:07:38 PM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn't do!)
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152 posted on 08/06/2006 2:39:52 PM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn't do!)
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To: inkling
And if Israel can attack as soon as the Hezbo's strike, this "cease fire" will last less than 10 minutes.

A true ceasefire is pretty much impossible now. Hezbollha has a command and control problem. They could not even get orders to every single one of their fighters to stop attacking. Some are hiding in holes and hiding in abandoned homes. The Israeli counter offensive will continue until the Israelis decide to stop. And even then they know that 'loose' unconnected bands of Hezbollha will still be fighting.

153 posted on 08/06/2006 5:44:52 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: La Enchiladita

Lebanon IS Hezbollah now.


154 posted on 08/06/2006 5:49:28 PM PDT by Palladin (Ad in Hezbollah Herald: Human Shields wanted. Free housing.)
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