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Whatever it is, this isn't Treason
Observer-Reporter (SW Pennsylvania paper) ^ | 8/6/06 | Editorial staff

Posted on 08/06/2006 1:52:57 PM PDT by Coop

We cannot recall when, if ever, a congressional race in our corner of the world developed a national focus, but such was the case last week. Unfortunately, it was characterized by the kind of overheated rhetoric that plagues today's politics.

A group of veterans announced it would sponsor a national veterans rally in October to protest Rep. John Murtha's opposition to the Iraq war. "Vets for the Truth" is a successor to one of the organizations that worked against John Kerry in the 2004 presidential election.

But the group does not simply disagree with Murtha that the United States should pull out of Iraq; it claims that things he has said were "treasonous." His position actually is that the U.S. and its coalition troops have done all they can do and that the war can not be won militarily, which is not only a far cry from treason, it's probably a realistic assessment of the situation in Iraq.

Murtha, of course, is a big boy and an old political pro. (When he came out against the war last November, he coupled it with a personal attack on Vice President Dick Cheney.) He also has deep connections to the military establishment and to veterans groups. Last week, the Murtha camp countered the veterans group by producing former U.S. Sen. Max Clelland, who lost three limbs in Vietnam, to counter what he called "the right wing smears against a good man." A news conference held by his opponents in downtown Johnstown Thursday was dwarfed by a pro-Murtha rally at which Cleland was featured, although Murtha wasn't there; he was busy campaigning for a Democrat congressional candidate in Eastern Pennsylvania.)

There were complaints that Murtha, who was also wounded in Vietnam, was being "Swift-boated," a reference to the Navy veterans who hounded Kerry two years ago. The Swift boat controversy was about things that happened better than 30 years before and was a response to Kerry's foolishly making Vietnam the centerpiece of his campaign. The Murtha dispute is at least about what's going on today.

Murtha's Republican challenger, Washington County Commissioner Diana Irey, appeared to be making the most of the situation without joining the protesters. She earlier charged, correctly, that Murtha had unfairly declared that a Marine squad had killed two dozen civilians "in cold blood" in Haditha, even though the accusation was still being investigated.

Also, last week, a Marine Corps sergeant under investigation in connection with Haditha, filed a defamation suit accusing Murtha of spreading "false and malicious lies." There was a curious footnote to Murtha's response to the suit.

A news release from Murtha's office received in our newsroom Wednesday called the plaintiff "a Marine Corps staff sergeant charged in the incident at Haditha." The fact is that, while the initial Pentagon investigation reportedly supports the general accusation, nobody has been charged in the case.

When we double-checked Murtha's Web site on Thursday, the first sentence of the news release had been re-written to remove the word "charged." The original claim had been dropped down the memory hole without explanation.

While all this makes good political theater, its effect in November is questionable. Murtha's party has a huge voter registration majority in the district, he is a master at dispensing pork, and few people in his home area of Johnstown speak ill of him, including the Republican leadership. Even if the insurgency in Iraq were to suddenly collapse, it probably wouldn't hurt him at all.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Pennsylvania; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 109th; 2006; abscam; cutandrun; election2006; electioncongress; exmarine; haditha; iraq; irey; murthawatch; yesitistreason
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To: LdSentinal

no that honor would go to Lautenberg...


41 posted on 08/06/2006 2:25:10 PM PDT by Schwaeky (Welcome to America--Now speak English or LEAVE!)
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To: Bubble Girl

Welcome to FR BUMP.


42 posted on 08/06/2006 2:31:50 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Jack Murtha. BAH!)
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To: DJ Taylor
Murtha's words gave 'aid & comfort' to the enemy... but what Kerry did in Paris during Vietnam was worse.

Shoot'm both.

43 posted on 08/06/2006 2:33:08 PM PDT by johnny7 (“And what's Fonzie like? Come on Yolanda... what's Fonzie like?!”)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Thanks! Hope I can make some decent contributions to the discussions here..


44 posted on 08/06/2006 2:34:16 PM PDT by Bubble Girl
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To: donmeaker; OSHA
Lets be kind. Call it a "work accident".

Then someone needs to notify OSHA, because all workplace accidents need to be reported.

45 posted on 08/06/2006 2:42:09 PM PDT by concretebob (We should give anarchists what they want. There'd be no jail-time for anything we do.)
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To: Coop

OK, makes sense. Just wondered, thanks.


46 posted on 08/06/2006 2:43:36 PM PDT by Fudd Fan (Fidel - NO MAS!)
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To: jude24

Doesn't that describe us all, tho.


47 posted on 08/06/2006 2:49:23 PM PDT by Fudd Fan (Fidel - NO MAS!)
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To: digger48; Coop
Not a hero, he made a very dumb mistake, and if he'd just shut up and not allow himself to be paraded around like a hero, I'd think more of him.

Old Ann Coulter column-"Cleland drops a political grenade"

First Cleland let Kerry use him, now he's letting Murtha.He needs to give it up.

48 posted on 08/06/2006 2:50:47 PM PDT by smoothsailing (Support The Troops-Support The Mission--Please Visit http://www.irey.com--&--Vets4Irey.com)
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To: jude24
He lost limbs in a training accident.

Nope. Look it up.

49 posted on 08/06/2006 2:51:39 PM PDT by speekinout
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To: Coop

Isn't is wonderful how when a Democrat dispenses with pork, it makes him politically smart and caring, but when a Republican does it, he is Boss Tweed?


50 posted on 08/06/2006 2:55:44 PM PDT by Democratshavenobrains
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To: smoothsailing; jude24

That's what I base my opinion on. If someone has a source that finds otherwise, I'm open.


51 posted on 08/06/2006 2:56:44 PM PDT by digger48
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To: smoothsailing

Ann Coulter is a political hack, not a credible source.


52 posted on 08/06/2006 2:57:52 PM PDT by jude24 ("I will oppose the sword if it's not wielded well, because my enemies are men like me.")
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To: LdSentinal
Of course he will, even though Diana wasn't born until 1973!

I GOT IT, LET'S DRAFT BABIES AND BAN ABORTION! AT LEAST THEY'D HAVE A FIGHTING CHANCE!

53 posted on 08/06/2006 2:59:16 PM PDT by smoothsailing (Support The Troops-Support The Mission--Please Visit http://www.irey.com--&--Vets4Irey.com)
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To: LdSentinal
Cleland will call Diana Irey a "chicken hawk" for not serving in Vietnam.

I guess I am too, since I didn't quit high school and join up when I was 16 in '72

54 posted on 08/06/2006 2:59:28 PM PDT by digger48
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To: Bubble Girl

Welcome to FR!


55 posted on 08/06/2006 3:00:20 PM PDT by OSHA (Lose money FAST playing penny stocks. Ask me how!)
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To: jude24

I repeat my offer....

do you have a credible source explaining Clelands injuries as a "training accident"

If so, I'll change my tune.(or tone)


56 posted on 08/06/2006 3:01:18 PM PDT by digger48
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To: concretebob

I need to recreate the accident to make a determination.


57 posted on 08/06/2006 3:02:16 PM PDT by OSHA (Lose money FAST playing penny stocks. Ask me how!)
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To: jude24
Ann Coulter is a political hack, not a credible source.

The only difference between her and you is a few million dollars. Looks aside, anyway.

58 posted on 08/06/2006 3:02:31 PM PDT by Coop (No, there are no @!%$&#*! polls on Irey vs. Murtha!)
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To: smoothsailing

1963, math whiz? :-)


59 posted on 08/06/2006 3:02:59 PM PDT by Coop (No, there are no @!%$&#*! polls on Irey vs. Murtha!)
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To: OSHA

Thanks! I'm excited about being here..

:D


60 posted on 08/06/2006 3:07:27 PM PDT by Bubble Girl
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