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MTV, still clueless after all these years
The New York Daily News ^ | August 7, 2006 | Stanley Crouch

Posted on 08/07/2006 9:45:48 AM PDT by .cnI redruM

Last week, MTV celebrated its 25th anniversary, marking a quarter of a century after having conceived of the first actually new thing in popular television entertainment since "American Bandstand" and "Soul Train."

The music video became a big deal through MTV and not only updated the old "soundies" once shown in movie theaters to feature singers and instrumentalists. It also revolutionized the making of films by acclimating its audience to the extremely fast crosscutting that had been pioneered in television commercials, where the faster the message arrived, the better. In the process, the MTV audience learned to see much more quickly and recognize what sometimes quite surreal montages were saying or what they were alluding to - no small accomplishment.

Of course, that is not the whole story of MTV, which also came to project the most dehumanizing images of black people since the dawn of minstrelsy in the 19th century. Pimps, whores, potheads, dope dealers, gangbangers, the crudest materialism and anarchic gang violence were broadcast around the world as "real" black culture.

At first, far too many black people were taken in by the cult of celebrity and the wealth that came to these gold- toothed knuckleheads and mindless hussies to realize what was happening. The lowest possible common denominator was seen as the norm. The illiteracy and rule-of-thumb stupidity was interpreted as a "cultural" rejection of white middle-class norms.

It was as if these dregs had the same heroic position in our time as the largely uneducated Southern black poor of the civil rights movement. Those Southern black people, like the marvelous Fannie Lou Hamer, proved to this nation and to the world that they not only deserved their constitutional rights, but had something both noble and soulful to add to our American understanding of the richness of the human spirit. We are a much greater nation because of the success of the civil rights movement. As they emerged from beneath the bloody rock of segregation, those Southern black people brought to our national identity a compassion and a bravery of immeasurable value.

Unfortunately, the crabbed thug culture that was popularized through MTV brought nothing big with it other than some paychecks.

Twenty-five years later, Christina Norman is the president of the network - and a black woman with a new problem on her hands. Part of that problem is Lisa Fager, a black woman who is president and co-founder of Industry Ears (industryears.com). Fager is disturbed by an MTV "satire" called "Where My Dogs At?" which has a cartoon figure strongly resembling Snoop Dogg who enters a pet store with two black women walking on all fours with leashes around their necks. At the end of the "parody," they defecate on the floor.

Fager's problem is that the spot was shown at 12:30 p.m. on a Saturday afternoon and will, no doubt, perpetuate among younger viewers the misogynist and dehumanizing images we have become accustomed to in too many rap videos.

That's the way big money goes. We can be sure that Christina Norman will have a simplemindedly liberal justification for the material, but I doubt that Lisa Fager will want to hear it. Nor will the millions of black women who oppose this kind of material and are beginning to rise into the sorts of positions that will make them an influential special-interest group. I don't know how long it will take, but change is on the way.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: culturewars; degradation; hollywoodisdead; knuckleheads; liberalmedia; mtv; popculture; thuglife
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To: frogjerk
You mean like when Tabitha Soren ambushed President George H.W. Bush with stupid questions about Iran-Contra?

While the toughest question posed to Bill Clinton was, "Boxers or Briefs?"

21 posted on 08/07/2006 10:12:13 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: .cnI redruM

PBS in Houston was showing trashy rap videos on Saturday nights for awhile.

The trick is to claim it represents the culture.


22 posted on 08/07/2006 10:13:59 AM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: .cnI redruM
I stopped watching when they stopped showing actual music. The channel has little or nothing to do with music now. Hell, they should change the name of it. Most of the stuff they show now borders on soft porn with young people, sometimes even teens involved.
23 posted on 08/07/2006 10:14:18 AM PDT by KoRn
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To: .cnI redruM

MTV is simply the whoriest of all the whore networks. Everything you see on that network is a placement ad for some company. The clothes, the sets...everything.


24 posted on 08/07/2006 10:18:53 AM PDT by subterfuge (Call me a Jingoist, I don't care...)
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To: All

It still irks me that part of my cable bill goes toward MTV. Wish we could choose the stations we wanted and only pay for those we chose.


25 posted on 08/07/2006 10:20:16 AM PDT by excalibur1701
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To: KoRn

What is the M for? Cant be music. All I see are trashy reality shows on that channel.


26 posted on 08/07/2006 10:20:38 AM PDT by TNCMAXQ
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To: .cnI redruM

I miss videos.


27 posted on 08/07/2006 10:20:43 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: .cnI redruM

I'm not sure what Couch's point was. Other than that he doesn't like what's on MTV. So what? I don't either, and I don't watch it.

Crouch concludes, "...Christina Norman will have a simplemindedly liberal justification for the material." Maybe. But in the meantime, allow me a simplemidedly conservative justification. Because it sells.


28 posted on 08/07/2006 10:22:58 AM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: MplsSteve

The X and I spent a lot of time watching it in the early 80's while sitting up with my youngest when he was a baby. They had great music and videos. Now, MTV is crap.


29 posted on 08/07/2006 10:23:25 AM PDT by wjcsux (I would prefer to have the German army in front of me than the French army behind me- Gen. G. Patton)
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To: MplsSteve
The first ten years of MTV were classic though. Real music videos. Real VJ's who didn't talk like they had just stepped out of the 'hood. Great music. Great videos. I wish they'd start re-running MTV (and even VH-1) from that period.

Absolutely. I used to watch MTV constantly until cRap and political activism took it over.

Today, it's nothing but mindless garbage.
30 posted on 08/07/2006 10:23:34 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Get off my lawn!)
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To: .cnI redruM

MTV = Moronic Television


31 posted on 08/07/2006 10:24:26 AM PDT by stbdside
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To: TNCMAXQ
"What is the M for?"

Metrosexual may work, or perhaps Masturbation(can I say that?lol).

32 posted on 08/07/2006 10:25:23 AM PDT by KoRn
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To: .cnI redruM
Of course, that is not the whole story of MTV, which also came to project the most dehumanizing images of black people since the dawn of minstrelsy in the 19th century. Pimps, whores, potheads, dope dealers, gangbangers, the crudest materialism and anarchic gang violence were broadcast around the world as "real" black culture.

For all its faults, MTV is not to blame here. The "performers" are, and their audiences who eat it up.

33 posted on 08/07/2006 10:29:37 AM PDT by Buck W. (If you push something hard enough, it will fall over.)
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To: .cnI redruM

Stanley Crouch's main point is what this has done to black culture and image. He may have been doing some research. I have heard inklings here and there that, due to the last fifteen or so years worth of Thug videos and Hood movies, the worldwide image of the African American is that of a subhuman troll.

I would bet that if one of those international polls were taken the results would be shocking.


34 posted on 08/07/2006 10:34:05 AM PDT by sinanju
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To: TonyRo76
MTV sucks. It is a cancer on our culture.

Yup. Blame Sumner Redstone, among others.

35 posted on 08/07/2006 10:35:12 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: .cnI redruM

I worked at MTV from 1987-1988 and I can testify that even then it was he most racist and sexist environment I'd ever worked in. (THe only job I can honestly say I was sexually harrassed in the old-fashioned way).


36 posted on 08/07/2006 10:37:34 AM PDT by Hildy (To save us both time, assume I know everything...)
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To: Izzy Dunne
I quit watching MTV when they quit showing music (around 1986).

Same here. I was out-of-country starting in 1985. Before then MTV was young and fun. When I returned after 1986 MTV had changed too much to enjoy.

37 posted on 08/07/2006 10:50:44 AM PDT by DakotaGator
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To: excalibur1701
"It still irks me that part of my cable bill goes toward MTV. Wish we could choose the stations we wanted and only pay for those we chose."

That is why I don't have cable. I won't pay for that crud, and I won't even have it piped into my house for free.
38 posted on 08/07/2006 10:51:05 AM PDT by Old Student (WRM, MSgt, USAF(Ret.))
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To: MplsSteve

If you can get the Digipix (digital) upgrade they have multiple video channels including MTV and VH1 classics. May not be the correct names but you get the idea.


40 posted on 08/07/2006 11:02:55 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Crom!)
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