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Schwarz Loses in Heated Primary (MI)
Jackson Citizen Patriot/MLive ^ | 08/09/06 | Susan J. Demas

Posted on 08/09/2006 9:07:42 AM PDT by Kieri

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To: MNJohnnie
You need to check your numbers, increased defense and security spending is dwarfed by discretionary spending. The Republican majorities in Congress that limited President Clinton's spending seems to have never meet a program in didn't like during President Bush's administration. I have been very disappointed in the spending choices the government has made since the 2001 budget and it seems to be getting worse rather than better. Finally population growth and inflation have little to do with it, revenues have increased but spending has far outpaced any revenue growth.
41 posted on 08/09/2006 10:20:51 AM PDT by thinkthenpost
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To: Kieri
Schwarz had hoped crossover votes would be his salvation, as they were in the six-way race two years ago. Former state Sen. Jim Berryman, D-Adrian, was charged with getting out the vote.

And this guy voted against the protection of marraige. What a bum.

42 posted on 08/09/2006 10:21:30 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: Diva

Hey, look.

It's our old friend....

Pinz


43 posted on 08/09/2006 10:25:19 AM PDT by pinz-n-needlez (Jack Bauer wears Tony Snow pajamas)
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To: mdefranc

there was no guarantee of victory for walberg, there is no guarantee for swann or blackwell.

but currently, both are well behind their opponents in money as is Diane Irey who facing Murtha.

Blowing 3 million here did not move the ball down the field by much whereas a victory by swann, blackwell or irey moves the ball down the field by much more.


44 posted on 08/09/2006 10:27:13 AM PDT by staytrue
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To: thinkthenpost
revenues have increased but spending has far outpaced any revenue growth.

so why is the deficit declining ?

45 posted on 08/09/2006 10:29:27 AM PDT by staytrue
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To: staytrue

The FY 05-06 deficit looks like it will come in lower than originally projected, finally the money freed up in the tax cuts are coming around in larger tax revenues like we all knew it would, my heartburn is for FY 01-02, FY 02-03, FY 03-04, and FY 04-05 spending grew much faster than revenue and the deficit grew at an obscene rate.


46 posted on 08/09/2006 10:35:28 AM PDT by thinkthenpost
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To: wmfights
the DC careerists abandon the conservative base once they become established.

The DC careerists support incumbents. They have never supported a challenger. Perhaps you can name one for me if I am mistaken.

47 posted on 08/09/2006 10:41:35 AM PDT by staytrue
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To: VeniVidiVici
Too bad you were elected to represent the people in your district and not yourself, bonehead.

Well, that's the Jacksonian vs. Jeffersonian democracy debate. One is that the representative is to represent what he thinks is what the people in his/her district believe. The other is to state clearly what you believe and vote that way, and then let the chips fall as they may during elections. There are going to be times in Washington when you have to deal with an issue that it's not clear what your constituiency thinks.

Personally, I prefer that my rep tells me what he or she thinks honestly, and then I'll vote for who I think represents me best. Then when an unanticipated issue comes up, I figure I've got the best hope that they'll vote based on an honest assessment and according to their principles.

48 posted on 08/09/2006 10:59:11 AM PDT by RonF
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To: staytrue
"Blowing 3 million here did not move the ball down the field by much whereas a victory by swann, blackwell or irey moves the ball down the field by much more."
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Exactly right! This is why any campaign donations should go directly to the conservative or to organizations like "Club For Growth".
49 posted on 08/09/2006 11:09:54 AM PDT by wmfights (Lead, Follow, or Get Out Of The WAY!)
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To: Kieri
Schwarz said "distortions and fabrications" of his voting record -- especially on abortion, taxes and immigration -- helped cost him the election.

"You have a one-issue group with unlimited funding," the Battle Creek Republican said. "I did what I thought was right. I will not compromise on principle. I will not pander."

If a Congressman can't count to three, perhaps it's time for him to leave.

50 posted on 08/09/2006 11:14:11 AM PDT by RJL
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To: staytrue
"The DC careerists support incumbents. They have never supported a challenger. Perhaps you can name one for me if I am mistaken."
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That's a good point. However, I don't see Trancredo campaigning for an open borders incumbent. I do see "professed conservatives" Bush & McCain campaigning for the incumbent in this race and Spector in his last race. In both instances this hurt conservatives.
51 posted on 08/09/2006 11:14:19 AM PDT by wmfights (Lead, Follow, or Get Out Of The WAY!)
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To: staytrue
Ken Blackwell and Lynn Swann in particular are underfunded.

They will both win anyway.

52 posted on 08/09/2006 11:17:21 AM PDT by webheart (Have a nice day!)
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To: MikeA
Is this district a safe Republican district? Are the Dems. fielding anyone who'd be a threat?

The article said it is a 'near lock' in this 'solidly Republican district.'

53 posted on 08/09/2006 11:23:46 AM PDT by WashingtonSource (Freedom is not free.)
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To: MikeA
James Agee, co-director of the Michigan Policy Leadership Program at Michigan State University

He's probably nothing more than a gloom and doom dem from the liberal bastion of MooU. Nothing more than wishful thinking.

Wahlberg's win will not be bad news for the GOP, locally or nationally. The right guy won the primary, and he'll win again in November. The 7th is blood red.

54 posted on 08/09/2006 11:25:00 AM PDT by grellis (I don't know, let me ask my I Ching)
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To: MNJohnnie
Those excuses don't cut it:
"When we strip away defense, homeland security and entitlements and adjust for inflation, leaving only discretionary domestic spending, George W. Bush has grown the federal government at a faster pace than Lyndon Baines Johnson," Viguerie writes.

55 posted on 08/09/2006 11:34:22 AM PDT by steve-b ("Creation Science" is to the religous right what "Global Warming" is to the socialist left.)
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To: steve-b
"When we strip away defense, homeland security and entitlements and adjust for inflation, leaving only discretionary domestic spending, George W. Bush has grown the federal government at a faster pace than Lyndon Baines Johnson," Viguerie writes.
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That's what's so encouraging with this primary, in a strong PUB dist. Conservatives got one of their own the nomination despite the best efforts of the party establishment. We can transform the party in the primary system. Support the conservatives directly, don't waste campaign dollars on the party. They don't know how to spend the money.
56 posted on 08/09/2006 12:04:28 PM PDT by wmfights (Lead, Follow, or Get Out Of The WAY!)
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To: webheart

regarding 52, blackwell and swann are both narrowly behind in current polls.

I am hopefull though.


57 posted on 08/09/2006 12:38:45 PM PDT by staytrue
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To: Slip18
Hey, check out the eatery:

"We didn't get enough 'oomph' in places we really needed it," he told 200 boosters at Schuler's restaurant in Marshall.

58 posted on 08/09/2006 12:41:52 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I just saved a bunch of money on my car insurance by fleeing the scene of an accident)
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To: Kieri

So long, Joe.
I feel a song coming on...
Tune: Brother can you spare a dime?

Once I won every race I’d run
Man, that district, it was mine
Once I went to Congress, now I’m done
Brother can you spare a dime?

I voted for every pork project under the sun
All the pork all the time
Now I’m out of power, now I’m done
Brother can you spare a dime?

Once in striped suits
Gee, I looked swell
Full of that yankee doodle de dum
Now, campaign bucks just shot to hell
I’m on the skids, like a bum

Say, don’t you remember, they called me Joe
It was Joe all the time
Say, don’t you remember, don’t ya know?
Buddy, can you spare a dime?


59 posted on 08/09/2006 1:30:14 PM PDT by MaggieCarta (Get thee glass eyes, and like a scurvy politician, seem to see things that thou dost not. Shakspeare)
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To: Cyber Liberty

I've never been to Schuler's (hubby has and says it's very good), but Walberg partied at Daryl's Downtown in Jackson. EXCELLENT food, their garlic rolls are awesome.


60 posted on 08/09/2006 1:34:45 PM PDT by Kieri (A Grafted Branch (Rom. 11))
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