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The Democrat Party -- 1828* - 2006 -- R.I.P.
Special to FreeRepublic ^ | 9 August 2006 | John Armor (Congressman Billybob)

Posted on 08/09/2006 10:40:08 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob

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To: JasonC

Ping.


41 posted on 08/10/2006 12:39:33 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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To: TexasPatriot8; Reeses
Everyone chooses their occupation or profession based on their ability and desire to satisfy themselves and the people they care about. Most simply take the first job that will pay enough money to keep the respect of their family. Professionals prepare systematically to do something more than that. Journalists go into journalism to be part of a profession which is at the top of the pecking order. First and foremost, journalism promotes the idea that journalism is the most important profession. And that implies pecking at all the other chickens in the barnyard. And so on. In general, anyone who aspires to respect based on doing things, and who is a natural for membership in the Republican Party, is a natural target of journalism.

Who does journalism not peck? Only those who sell out any independence from the idea that journalism is the only thing that matters. Those people, it calls "liberals." Or "progressives." Or whatever high-sounding label they prefer. Which is why people who are rich enough, tend to buy off journalism by taking on journalism's political coloration. Especially, but far from exclusively, those who inherited their money.

Why Broadcast Journalism is
Unnecessary and Illegitimate



42 posted on 08/10/2006 1:05:10 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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To: Congressman Billybob

Ping to my #42.


43 posted on 08/10/2006 1:09:25 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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To: Congressman Billybob

Great analysis Congressman. I agree that Lieberman's party has wandered into the desert without a pillar of smoke or fire to guide them.


44 posted on 08/10/2006 1:12:06 PM PDT by Jimmy Valentine's brother (Crush Islamofacists; see them driven before you and hear the lamentation of their women.)
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To: Congressman Billybob

When I heard about Lieberman, I thought the Democrats had lost it. To abandon the central part of their party in this time of terrorism is simply insane.


45 posted on 08/10/2006 1:42:10 PM PDT by TheLion
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To: jmaroneps37

I lile the way you talk--and I like what you say. Harold Ford the junior must go down... too many socialists already in the senate.


46 posted on 08/10/2006 1:50:43 PM PDT by BamaAndy (Heart & Iron--the story of America through an ordinary family. ISBN: 1-4137-5397-3)
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To: Congressman Billybob

Don't be too sure that the dim party is finished! The mad-leftists are very powerful and rich. They will stop at nothing to make the USA a communist paradise.


47 posted on 08/10/2006 1:52:28 PM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Leftism is the ideology of nihilism, despair, nothingness +death. That why they like islamofascists.)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
I've never known any nation to so embrace defeat and surrender as such a positive good as that bunch. Even if somebody is against the war, do they have to make the possibility of surrender such a joyful event? Surely this mindset is way off on the margin.

I think you're right. The fringe is taking over the dems - these folks think it's 1965 and the "kids" are all behind them... Ain't no kids - boomers grew up - and more are becoming conservative every day...

48 posted on 08/10/2006 2:01:14 PM PDT by GOPJ (Al Gore - the original "Millions Could Die" kind of guy....)
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To: Congressman Billybob

bump


49 posted on 08/10/2006 5:55:31 PM PDT by prophetic
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To: Congressman Billybob; Colonel Kangaroo; cotton1706; Tallguy; jmaroneps37; TNCMAXQ; katieanna; ...
Originally posted by Congressman Billybob:
"The Democrat Party died yesterday in Hartford, Connecticut."

I would agree with you that the current Democrat party is dying - or splitting into two as it did before the late unpleasantness of the War between the States... Then, as now is cannot paper-over or sustain the policy dichotomy of either slavery/anti-slavery or National security/National isolationism. The Lieberman/Lamont contest just highlighted that fundamental divide, however my personal opinion is that it will takes two more Presidential election defeats before that party takes the road blazed by the Federalists.

"These major political parties have held great power – usually including the Presidency and control of one or both Houses of Congress – only to disappear from the political stage, remembered in history books that no one reads any more: The Federalists, the Anti-Federalists, the Republican-Democrats...."



I would differ just a bit on the history of "major" political parties in the history of the United States. By my count there have been five major political parties, with a few more influential minor parties to boot. Still hard to believe that James Monroe was elected to a second term with no opposition.

There have been five major political parties in the history of the United States, the Federalists, the Democratic-Republicans, the Democrats, the Whigs and the Republicans. Each of these major parties has in at least one Congress controlled the House, Senate and Presidency concurrently. This is what has defined them as major parties...



Congress Years_Term President Presidential Party House Majority Party Senate Majority Party The Big Tri-Fecta
1st 1789-1791 Washington No Party Administration Administration *
2nd 1791-1793 Washington No Party Administration Administration *
3rd 1793-1795 Washington No Party Opposition Administration  
4th 1795-1797 Washington No Party Opposition Administration  
5th 1797-1799 Adams(2) Federalist Dem-Reps Federalist  
6th 1799-1801 Adams(2) Federalist Federalist Federalist *
7th 1801-1803 Jefferson Dem-Reps Dem-Reps Dem-Reps *
8th 1803-1805 Jefferson Dem-Reps Dem-Reps Dem-Reps *
9th 1805-1807 Jefferson Dem-Reps Dem-Reps Dem-Reps *
10th 1807-1809 Jefferson Dem-Reps Dem-Reps Dem-Reps *
11th 1809-1811 Madison Dem-Reps Dem-Reps Dem-Reps *
12th 1811-1813 Madison Dem-Reps Dem-Reps Dem-Reps *
13th 1814-1815 Madison Dem-Reps Dem-Reps Dem-Reps *
14th 1815-1817 Madison Dem-Reps Dem-Reps Dem-Reps *
15th 1817-1819 Monroe Dem-Reps Dem-Reps Dem-Reps *
16th 1819-1821 Monroe Dem-Reps Dem-Reps Dem-Reps *
17th 1821-1823 Monroe Dem-Reps Dem-Reps Dem-Reps *
18th 1823-1825 Monroe Dem-Reps Dem-Reps Dem-Reps *
19th 1825-1827 Adams(6) Dem-Reps Dem-Reps Dem-Reps *
20th 1827-1829 Adams(6) Dem-Reps Dem-Reps Dem-Reps *
21st 1829-1831 Jackson Democrat Democrat Democrat *
22nd 1831-1833 Jackson Democrat Democrat Democrat *
23rd 1834-1835 Jackson Democrat Democrat Whig  
24th 1835-1837 Jackson Democrat Democrat Democrat *
25th 1837-1839 Van-Buren Democrat Democrat Democrat *
26th 1839-1841 Van-Buren Democrat Whig Democrat  
27th 1841-1843 Harrison(9)/Tyler Whig Whig Whig *
28th 1843-1845 Tyler Whig Democrat Whig  
29th 1845-1847 Polk Democrat Democrat Democrat *
30th 1847-1849 Polk Democrat Whig Democrat  
31st 1849-1851 Taylor/Filmore Whig Democrat Democrat  
32nd 1851-1853 Filmore Whig Democrat Democrat  
33rd 1853-1855 Pierce Democrat Democrat Democrat *
34th 1855-1857 Pierce Democrat Republican Democrat  
35th 1857-1859 Buchanan Democrat Democrat Democrat *
36th 1859-1861 Buchanan Democrat Republican Democrat  
37th 1861-1863 Lincoln Republican Republican Republican *
38th 1863-1865 Lincoln Republican Republican Republican *
39th 1865-1867 Lincoln/Johnson(17) Republican* Republican Republican *
40th 1867-1869 Johnson(17) Republican* Republican Republican *
41st 1869-1871 Grant Republican Republican Republican *
42nd 1871-1873 Grant Republican Republican Republican *
43rd 1873-1875 Grant Republican Republican Republican *
44th 1875-1877 Grant Republican Democrat Republican  
45th 1877-1879 Hayes Republican Democrat Republican  
46th 1879-1881 Hayes Republican Democrat Republican  
47th 1881-1883 Garfield/Arthur Republican Republican Republican *
48th 1883-1885 Arthur Republican Democrat Republican  
49th 1885-1887 Cleveland(22) Democrat Democrat Republican  
50th 1887-1889 Cleveland(22) Democrat Democrat Republican  
51st 1889-1891 Harrison(23) Republican Republican Republican *
52nd 1891-1893 Harrison(23) Republican Democrat Republican  
53rd 1893-1895 Cleveland(24) Democrat Democrat Republican  
54th 1895-1897 Cleveland(24) Democrat Republican Republican  
55th 1897-1899 McKinley Republican Republican Republican *
56th 1899-1901 McKinley Republican Republican Republican *
57th 1901-1903 McKinley/Roosevelt(26) Republican Republican Republican *
58th 1903-1905 Roosevelt(26) Republican Republican Republican *
59th 1905-1907 Roosevelt(26) Republican Republican Republican *
60th 1907-1909 Roosevelt(26) Republican Republican Republican *
61st 1909-1911 Taft Republican Republican Republican *
62nd 1911-1913 Taft Republican Democrat Republican  
63rd 1913-1915 Wilson Democrat Democrat Republican  
64th 1915-1917 Wilson Democrat Democrat Democrat *
65th 1917-1919 Wilson Democrat Republican Democrat  
66th 1919-1921 Wilson Democrat Republican Republican  
67th 1921-1923 Harding/Coolidge Republican Republican Republican *
68th 1923-1925 Coolidge Republican Republican Republican *
69th 1925-1927 Coolidge Republican Republican Republican *
70th 1927-1929 Coolidge Republican Republican Republican *
71st 1929-1931 Hoover Republican Republican Republican *
72nd 1931-1933 Hoover Republican Republican Republican *
73rd 1933-1935 Roosevelt(32) Democrat Democrat Democrat *
74th 1935-1937 Roosevelt(32) Democrat Democrat Democrat *
75th 1937-1939 Roosevelt(32) Democrat Democrat Democrat *
76th 1939-1941 Roosevelt(32) Democrat Democrat Democrat *
77th 1941-1943 Roosevelt(32) Democrat Democrat Democrat *
78th 1943-1945 Roosevelt(32) Democrat Democrat Democrat *
79th 1945-1947 Roosevelt(32)/Truman Democrat Democrat Democrat *
80th 1947-1949 Truman Democrat Republican Democrat  
81st 1949-1951 Truman Democrat Democrat Democrat *
82nd 1951-1953 Truman Democrat Democrat Democrat *
83rd 1953-1955 Eisenhower Republican Republican Republican *
84th 1955-1957 Eisenhower Republican Democrat Democrat  
85th 1957-1959 Eisenhower Republican Democrat Democrat  
86th 1959-1961 Eisenhower Republican Democrat Democrat  
87th 1961-1963 Kennedy Democrat Democrat Democrat *
88th 1963-1965 Kennedy/Johnson(36) Democrat Democrat Democrat *
89th 1965-1967 Johnson(36) Democrat Democrat Democrat *
90th 1967-1969 Johnson(36) Democrat Democrat Democrat *
91st 1969-1971 Nixon Republican Democrat Democrat  
92nd 1971-1973 Nixon Republican Democrat Democrat  
93rd 1973-1975 Nixon/Ford Republican Democrat Democrat  
94th 1975-1977 Ford Republican Democrat Democrat  
95th 1977-1979 Carter Democrat Democrat Democrat *
96th 1979-1981 Carter Democrat Democrat Democrat *
97th 1981-1983 Reagan Republican Democrat Republican  
98th 1983-1985 Reagan Republican Democrat Republican  
99th 1985-1987 Reagan Republican Democrat Republican  
100th 1987-1989 Reagan Republican Democrat Democrat  
101st 1989-1991 Bush(41) Republican Democrat Democrat  
102nd 1991-1993 Bush(41) Republican Democrat Democrat  
103rd 1993-1995 Clinton Democrat Democrat Democrat *
104th 1995-1997 Clinton Democrat Republican Republican  
105th 1997-1999 Clinton Democrat Republican Republican  
106th 1999-2001 Clinton Democrat Republican Republican  
107th 2001-2003 Bush(43) Republican Republican Rep/Dem */no
108th 2003-2005 Bush(43) Republican Republican Republican *
107th 2005-2007 Bush(43) Republican Republican Republican *



What say you?

dvwjr

50 posted on 08/10/2006 11:28:45 PM PDT by dvwjr
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To: dvwjr
I agree with you that only those five Parties have elected Presidents. And I wrote exactly that to the US Supreme Court in a brief in John Anderson's case there, in 1983.

Where I disagree with your chart is the Madison and Monroe years. Jefferson's Republican-Democrat Party dissolved after his two years. The Democrat Party as it is known today had not yet been born. That's my only quarrel.

John / Billybob
51 posted on 08/11/2006 4:45:04 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob (Have a look-see. Please get involved.)
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To: TexasPatriot8

Great Post!!!

May I plagerize?


52 posted on 08/11/2006 5:10:27 AM PDT by CPT Clay (Drill ANWR, Personal Accounts NOW.)
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To: Sam Cree
they're moving leftward too quickly and too openly. Not that any of the ordinary guys I know who vote Dem seem to have much awareness of that.

Most people who vote democrat or republican do so cause they always have and are unaware of what is really happening in the political world
53 posted on 08/11/2006 5:20:48 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: Congressman Billybob
Good article.

I lost all respect for Joe when he chose his party over his country, backing away from the Clinton Impeachment. (Because I thought Joe thoroughly honest, I’d written six months prior that I expected him to be the “honest Senator” as Goldwater was concerning President Nixon a quarter century before.) I have never forgotten that. I have nothing but contempt for LIEberman ever since. HHC's husband.

54 posted on 08/11/2006 5:26:02 AM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: Congressman Billybob

Bump for later


55 posted on 08/11/2006 6:11:20 AM PDT by B.O. Plenty (Islam, liberalism and abortions are terminal..)
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To: B.O. Plenty
There was an article in our local paper about 2 or 3 years ago from a former local Dem activist(retired) that warned the dems their flaccid foreign policy beliefs would regulate them to minority status. He also said that many traditionalist democrats(Reagan Democrats) were making the repub party like the Dem party of old and the current dems are becoming more the Green party
56 posted on 08/11/2006 7:14:57 AM PDT by sachem longrifle (proud member of the fond Du lac band of the Ojibwa people)
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Ping: Death of a party


57 posted on 08/11/2006 7:23:50 AM PDT by HawaiianGecko (Timing has a lot to do with the outcome of a rain dance.)
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To: hellinahandcart
"I have never forgotten that. I have nothing but contempt for LIEberman ever since. HHC's husband."
_________________________________

Don't forget, other than defense, he ALWAYS votes liberal.

I watched Barone break down the voting pattern. The blue-collar middle class voters went Lieberman. The wealthy upper class voted Lamont. The schism in the Rat party is between the "I know what's good for you elitists" and the unheard "I'm a working stiff". The problem is why would the working stiff crowd join the Pubs? The Pubs have turned from their conservative roots the longer they have had power. The Pubs are run by the "blue bloods".
58 posted on 08/11/2006 7:33:32 AM PDT by wmfights (Lead, Follow, or Get Out Of The WAY!)
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To: uncbob
"Most people who vote democrat or republican do so cause they always have and are unaware of what is really happening in the political world"

Yes, it's true. That was exactly the reason my Democrat voting fishing buddy gave. That he always had voted Dem, and so had his father. On the one hand he'll go on about his belief in the free market, then he'll go right out and vote for a socialist. None of these guys believe in affirmative action or even many of the Dem causes; but they see the Dems as the "home team."

59 posted on 08/11/2006 10:49:13 AM PDT by Sam Cree (Don't mix alcopops and ufo's)
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To: wmfights
"The Pubs are run by the "blue bloods."

I guess you could say the Bushes, the Romneys and other Republicans are blue bloods, but the Dems have their own share of 'em, the Kerrys and the Kennedys come to mind right away. Not to mention FDR, who was a blue blood as well. And this Lamont idiot.

60 posted on 08/11/2006 10:52:24 AM PDT by Sam Cree (Don't mix alcopops and ufo's)
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