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The Democrat Party -- 1828* - 2006 -- R.I.P.
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| 9 August 2006
| John Armor (Congressman Billybob)
Posted on 08/09/2006 10:40:08 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob
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To: JasonC
41
posted on
08/10/2006 12:39:33 PM PDT
by
conservatism_IS_compassion
(The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
To: TexasPatriot8; Reeses
Everyone chooses their occupation or profession based on their ability and desire to satisfy themselves and the people they care about. Most simply take the first job that will pay enough money to keep the respect of their family. Professionals prepare systematically to do something more than that. Journalists go into journalism to be part of a profession which is at the top of the pecking order. First and foremost, journalism promotes the idea that journalism is the most important profession. And that implies pecking at all the other chickens in the barnyard.
- Water is so important that if somebody shuts someone else's operation down they are said to have "shut his water off." Does someone take their importance by providing good water to the public? Journalism's reaction is to look for questions which can be raised about the possibility of quality degradation in the water supply, and about how expensive water is. Peck.
- Everyone needs gasoline and electricity. Does someone take their importance by providing energy to the public? Journalism's reaction is to look for questions which can be raised about the environmental and international political impact of producing energy, and about how expensive energy is. Peck.
- Everyone needs, or will need, health care. Does someone take their importance by providing health care to the public? Journalism's reaction is to look for questions which can be raised about the reliability and expense of health care. Peck.
- The nation needs police and military. Does someone take their importance by providing security to the public and the nation? Journalism's reaction is to question whether they do their job adequately without brutality. Peck.
And so on. In general, anyone who aspires to respect based on doing things, and who is a natural for membership in the Republican Party, is a natural target of journalism. Who does journalism not peck? Only those who sell out any independence from the idea that journalism is the only thing that matters. Those people, it calls "liberals." Or "progressives." Or whatever high-sounding label they prefer. Which is why people who are rich enough, tend to buy off journalism by taking on journalism's political coloration. Especially, but far from exclusively, those who inherited their money.
Why Broadcast Journalism is
Unnecessary and Illegitimate
42
posted on
08/10/2006 1:05:10 PM PDT
by
conservatism_IS_compassion
(The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
To: Congressman Billybob
43
posted on
08/10/2006 1:09:25 PM PDT
by
conservatism_IS_compassion
(The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
To: Congressman Billybob
Great analysis Congressman. I agree that Lieberman's party has wandered into the desert without a pillar of smoke or fire to guide them.
44
posted on
08/10/2006 1:12:06 PM PDT
by
Jimmy Valentine's brother
(Crush Islamofacists; see them driven before you and hear the lamentation of their women.)
To: Congressman Billybob
When I heard about Lieberman, I thought the Democrats had lost it. To abandon the central part of their party in this time of terrorism is simply insane.
45
posted on
08/10/2006 1:42:10 PM PDT
by
TheLion
To: jmaroneps37
I lile the way you talk--and I like what you say. Harold Ford the junior must go down... too many socialists already in the senate.
46
posted on
08/10/2006 1:50:43 PM PDT
by
BamaAndy
(Heart & Iron--the story of America through an ordinary family. ISBN: 1-4137-5397-3)
To: Congressman Billybob
Don't be too sure that the dim party is finished! The mad-leftists are very powerful and rich. They will stop at nothing to make the USA a communist paradise.
47
posted on
08/10/2006 1:52:28 PM PDT
by
Leftism is Mentally Deranged
(Leftism is the ideology of nihilism, despair, nothingness +death. That why they like islamofascists.)
To: Colonel Kangaroo
I've never known any nation to so embrace defeat and surrender as such a positive good as that bunch. Even if somebody is against the war, do they have to make the possibility of surrender such a joyful event? Surely this mindset is way off on the margin. I think you're right. The fringe is taking over the dems - these folks think it's 1965 and the "kids" are all behind them... Ain't no kids - boomers grew up - and more are becoming conservative every day...
48
posted on
08/10/2006 2:01:14 PM PDT
by
GOPJ
(Al Gore - the original "Millions Could Die" kind of guy....)
To: Congressman Billybob
To: Congressman Billybob; Colonel Kangaroo; cotton1706; Tallguy; jmaroneps37; TNCMAXQ; katieanna; ...
Originally posted by Congressman Billybob:
"The Democrat Party died yesterday in Hartford, Connecticut."
I would agree with you that the current Democrat party is dying - or splitting into two as it did before the late unpleasantness of the War between the States... Then, as now is cannot paper-over or sustain the policy dichotomy of either slavery/anti-slavery or National security/National isolationism. The Lieberman/Lamont contest just highlighted that fundamental divide, however my personal opinion is that it will takes two more Presidential election defeats before that party takes the road blazed by the Federalists.
"These major political parties have held great power usually including the Presidency and control of one or both Houses of Congress only to disappear from the political stage, remembered in history books that no one reads any more: The Federalists, the Anti-Federalists, the Republican-Democrats...."
I would differ just a bit on the history of "major" political parties in the history of the United States. By my count there have been five major political parties, with a few more influential minor parties to boot. Still hard to believe that James Monroe was elected to a second term with no opposition.
There have been five major political parties in the history of the United States, the Federalists, the Democratic-Republicans, the Democrats, the Whigs and the Republicans. Each of these major parties has in at least one Congress controlled the House, Senate and Presidency concurrently. This is what has defined them as major parties...
Congress |
Years_Term |
President |
Presidential Party |
House Majority Party |
Senate Majority Party |
The Big Tri-Fecta |
1st |
1789-1791 |
Washington |
No Party |
Administration |
Administration |
* |
2nd |
1791-1793 |
Washington |
No Party |
Administration |
Administration |
* |
3rd |
1793-1795 |
Washington |
No Party |
Opposition |
Administration |
|
4th |
1795-1797 |
Washington |
No Party |
Opposition |
Administration |
|
5th |
1797-1799 |
Adams(2) |
Federalist |
Dem-Reps |
Federalist |
|
6th |
1799-1801 |
Adams(2) |
Federalist |
Federalist |
Federalist |
* |
7th |
1801-1803 |
Jefferson |
Dem-Reps |
Dem-Reps |
Dem-Reps |
* |
8th |
1803-1805 |
Jefferson |
Dem-Reps |
Dem-Reps |
Dem-Reps |
* |
9th |
1805-1807 |
Jefferson |
Dem-Reps |
Dem-Reps |
Dem-Reps |
* |
10th |
1807-1809 |
Jefferson |
Dem-Reps |
Dem-Reps |
Dem-Reps |
* |
11th |
1809-1811 |
Madison |
Dem-Reps |
Dem-Reps |
Dem-Reps |
* |
12th |
1811-1813 |
Madison |
Dem-Reps |
Dem-Reps |
Dem-Reps |
* |
13th |
1814-1815 |
Madison |
Dem-Reps |
Dem-Reps |
Dem-Reps |
* |
14th |
1815-1817 |
Madison |
Dem-Reps |
Dem-Reps |
Dem-Reps |
* |
15th |
1817-1819 |
Monroe |
Dem-Reps |
Dem-Reps |
Dem-Reps |
* |
16th |
1819-1821 |
Monroe |
Dem-Reps |
Dem-Reps |
Dem-Reps |
* |
17th |
1821-1823 |
Monroe |
Dem-Reps |
Dem-Reps |
Dem-Reps |
* |
18th |
1823-1825 |
Monroe |
Dem-Reps |
Dem-Reps |
Dem-Reps |
* |
19th |
1825-1827 |
Adams(6) |
Dem-Reps |
Dem-Reps |
Dem-Reps |
* |
20th |
1827-1829 |
Adams(6) |
Dem-Reps |
Dem-Reps |
Dem-Reps |
* |
21st |
1829-1831 |
Jackson |
Democrat |
Democrat |
Democrat |
* |
22nd |
1831-1833 |
Jackson |
Democrat |
Democrat |
Democrat |
* |
23rd |
1834-1835 |
Jackson |
Democrat |
Democrat |
Whig |
|
24th |
1835-1837 |
Jackson |
Democrat |
Democrat |
Democrat |
* |
25th |
1837-1839 |
Van-Buren |
Democrat |
Democrat |
Democrat |
* |
26th |
1839-1841 |
Van-Buren |
Democrat |
Whig |
Democrat |
|
27th |
1841-1843 |
Harrison(9)/Tyler |
Whig |
Whig |
Whig |
* |
28th |
1843-1845 |
Tyler |
Whig |
Democrat |
Whig |
|
29th |
1845-1847 |
Polk |
Democrat |
Democrat |
Democrat |
* |
30th |
1847-1849 |
Polk |
Democrat |
Whig |
Democrat |
|
31st |
1849-1851 |
Taylor/Filmore |
Whig |
Democrat |
Democrat |
|
32nd |
1851-1853 |
Filmore |
Whig |
Democrat |
Democrat |
|
33rd |
1853-1855 |
Pierce |
Democrat |
Democrat |
Democrat |
* |
34th |
1855-1857 |
Pierce |
Democrat |
Republican |
Democrat |
|
35th |
1857-1859 |
Buchanan |
Democrat |
Democrat |
Democrat |
* |
36th |
1859-1861 |
Buchanan |
Democrat |
Republican |
Democrat |
|
37th |
1861-1863 |
Lincoln |
Republican |
Republican |
Republican |
* |
38th |
1863-1865 |
Lincoln |
Republican |
Republican |
Republican |
* |
39th |
1865-1867 |
Lincoln/Johnson(17) |
Republican* |
Republican |
Republican |
* |
40th |
1867-1869 |
Johnson(17) |
Republican* |
Republican |
Republican |
* |
41st |
1869-1871 |
Grant |
Republican |
Republican |
Republican |
* |
42nd |
1871-1873 |
Grant |
Republican |
Republican |
Republican |
* |
43rd |
1873-1875 |
Grant |
Republican |
Republican |
Republican |
* |
44th |
1875-1877 |
Grant |
Republican |
Democrat |
Republican |
|
45th |
1877-1879 |
Hayes |
Republican |
Democrat |
Republican |
|
46th |
1879-1881 |
Hayes |
Republican |
Democrat |
Republican |
|
47th |
1881-1883 |
Garfield/Arthur |
Republican |
Republican |
Republican |
* |
48th |
1883-1885 |
Arthur |
Republican |
Democrat |
Republican |
|
49th |
1885-1887 |
Cleveland(22) |
Democrat |
Democrat |
Republican |
|
50th |
1887-1889 |
Cleveland(22) |
Democrat |
Democrat |
Republican |
|
51st |
1889-1891 |
Harrison(23) |
Republican |
Republican |
Republican |
* |
52nd |
1891-1893 |
Harrison(23) |
Republican |
Democrat |
Republican |
|
53rd |
1893-1895 |
Cleveland(24) |
Democrat |
Democrat |
Republican |
|
54th |
1895-1897 |
Cleveland(24) |
Democrat |
Republican |
Republican |
|
55th |
1897-1899 |
McKinley |
Republican |
Republican |
Republican |
* |
56th |
1899-1901 |
McKinley |
Republican |
Republican |
Republican |
* |
57th |
1901-1903 |
McKinley/Roosevelt(26) |
Republican |
Republican |
Republican |
* |
58th |
1903-1905 |
Roosevelt(26) |
Republican |
Republican |
Republican |
* |
59th |
1905-1907 |
Roosevelt(26) |
Republican |
Republican |
Republican |
* |
60th |
1907-1909 |
Roosevelt(26) |
Republican |
Republican |
Republican |
* |
61st |
1909-1911 |
Taft |
Republican |
Republican |
Republican |
* |
62nd |
1911-1913 |
Taft |
Republican |
Democrat |
Republican |
|
63rd |
1913-1915 |
Wilson |
Democrat |
Democrat |
Republican |
|
64th |
1915-1917 |
Wilson |
Democrat |
Democrat |
Democrat |
* |
65th |
1917-1919 |
Wilson |
Democrat |
Republican |
Democrat |
|
66th |
1919-1921 |
Wilson |
Democrat |
Republican |
Republican |
|
67th |
1921-1923 |
Harding/Coolidge |
Republican |
Republican |
Republican |
* |
68th |
1923-1925 |
Coolidge |
Republican |
Republican |
Republican |
* |
69th |
1925-1927 |
Coolidge |
Republican |
Republican |
Republican |
* |
70th |
1927-1929 |
Coolidge |
Republican |
Republican |
Republican |
* |
71st |
1929-1931 |
Hoover |
Republican |
Republican |
Republican |
* |
72nd |
1931-1933 |
Hoover |
Republican |
Republican |
Republican |
* |
73rd |
1933-1935 |
Roosevelt(32) |
Democrat |
Democrat |
Democrat |
* |
74th |
1935-1937 |
Roosevelt(32) |
Democrat |
Democrat |
Democrat |
* |
75th |
1937-1939 |
Roosevelt(32) |
Democrat |
Democrat |
Democrat |
* |
76th |
1939-1941 |
Roosevelt(32) |
Democrat |
Democrat |
Democrat |
* |
77th |
1941-1943 |
Roosevelt(32) |
Democrat |
Democrat |
Democrat |
* |
78th |
1943-1945 |
Roosevelt(32) |
Democrat |
Democrat |
Democrat |
* |
79th |
1945-1947 |
Roosevelt(32)/Truman |
Democrat |
Democrat |
Democrat |
* |
80th |
1947-1949 |
Truman |
Democrat |
Republican |
Democrat |
|
81st |
1949-1951 |
Truman |
Democrat |
Democrat |
Democrat |
* |
82nd |
1951-1953 |
Truman |
Democrat |
Democrat |
Democrat |
* |
83rd |
1953-1955 |
Eisenhower |
Republican |
Republican |
Republican |
* |
84th |
1955-1957 |
Eisenhower |
Republican |
Democrat |
Democrat |
|
85th |
1957-1959 |
Eisenhower |
Republican |
Democrat |
Democrat |
|
86th |
1959-1961 |
Eisenhower |
Republican |
Democrat |
Democrat |
|
87th |
1961-1963 |
Kennedy |
Democrat |
Democrat |
Democrat |
* |
88th |
1963-1965 |
Kennedy/Johnson(36) |
Democrat |
Democrat |
Democrat |
* |
89th |
1965-1967 |
Johnson(36) |
Democrat |
Democrat |
Democrat |
* |
90th |
1967-1969 |
Johnson(36) |
Democrat |
Democrat |
Democrat |
* |
91st |
1969-1971 |
Nixon |
Republican |
Democrat |
Democrat |
|
92nd |
1971-1973 |
Nixon |
Republican |
Democrat |
Democrat |
|
93rd |
1973-1975 |
Nixon/Ford |
Republican |
Democrat |
Democrat |
|
94th |
1975-1977 |
Ford |
Republican |
Democrat |
Democrat |
|
95th |
1977-1979 |
Carter |
Democrat |
Democrat |
Democrat |
* |
96th |
1979-1981 |
Carter |
Democrat |
Democrat |
Democrat |
* |
97th |
1981-1983 |
Reagan |
Republican |
Democrat |
Republican |
|
98th |
1983-1985 |
Reagan |
Republican |
Democrat |
Republican |
|
99th |
1985-1987 |
Reagan |
Republican |
Democrat |
Republican |
|
100th |
1987-1989 |
Reagan |
Republican |
Democrat |
Democrat |
|
101st |
1989-1991 |
Bush(41) |
Republican |
Democrat |
Democrat |
|
102nd |
1991-1993 |
Bush(41) |
Republican |
Democrat |
Democrat |
|
103rd |
1993-1995 |
Clinton |
Democrat |
Democrat |
Democrat |
* |
104th |
1995-1997 |
Clinton |
Democrat |
Republican |
Republican |
|
105th |
1997-1999 |
Clinton |
Democrat |
Republican |
Republican |
|
106th |
1999-2001 |
Clinton |
Democrat |
Republican |
Republican |
|
107th |
2001-2003 |
Bush(43) |
Republican |
Republican |
Rep/Dem |
*/no |
108th |
2003-2005 |
Bush(43) |
Republican |
Republican |
Republican |
* |
107th |
2005-2007 |
Bush(43) |
Republican |
Republican |
Republican |
* |
What say you?
dvwjr
50
posted on
08/10/2006 11:28:45 PM PDT
by
dvwjr
To: dvwjr
I agree with you that only those five Parties have elected Presidents. And I wrote exactly that to the US Supreme Court in a brief in John Anderson's case there, in 1983.
Where I disagree with your chart is the Madison and Monroe years. Jefferson's Republican-Democrat Party dissolved after his two years. The Democrat Party as it is known today had not yet been born. That's my only quarrel.
John / Billybob
To: TexasPatriot8
Great Post!!!
May I plagerize?
52
posted on
08/11/2006 5:10:27 AM PDT
by
CPT Clay
(Drill ANWR, Personal Accounts NOW.)
To: Sam Cree
they're moving leftward too quickly and too openly. Not that any of the ordinary guys I know who vote Dem seem to have much awareness of that.
Most people who vote democrat or republican do so cause they always have and are unaware of what is really happening in the political world
53
posted on
08/11/2006 5:20:48 AM PDT
by
uncbob
To: Congressman Billybob
Good article.
I lost all respect for Joe when he chose his party over his country, backing away from the Clinton Impeachment. (Because I thought Joe thoroughly honest, Id written six months prior that I expected him to be the honest Senator as Goldwater was concerning President Nixon a quarter century before.) I have never forgotten that. I have nothing but contempt for LIEberman ever since. HHC's husband.
To: Congressman Billybob
55
posted on
08/11/2006 6:11:20 AM PDT
by
B.O. Plenty
(Islam, liberalism and abortions are terminal..)
To: B.O. Plenty
There was an article in our local paper about 2 or 3 years ago from a former local Dem activist(retired) that warned the dems their flaccid foreign policy beliefs would regulate them to minority status. He also said that many traditionalist democrats(Reagan Democrats) were making the repub party like the Dem party of old and the current dems are becoming more the Green party
56
posted on
08/11/2006 7:14:57 AM PDT
by
sachem longrifle
(proud member of the fond Du lac band of the Ojibwa people)
57
posted on
08/11/2006 7:23:50 AM PDT
by
HawaiianGecko
(Timing has a lot to do with the outcome of a rain dance.)
To: hellinahandcart
"I have never forgotten that. I have nothing but contempt for LIEberman ever since. HHC's husband."
_________________________________
Don't forget, other than defense, he ALWAYS votes liberal.
I watched Barone break down the voting pattern. The blue-collar middle class voters went Lieberman. The wealthy upper class voted Lamont. The schism in the Rat party is between the "I know what's good for you elitists" and the unheard "I'm a working stiff". The problem is why would the working stiff crowd join the Pubs? The Pubs have turned from their conservative roots the longer they have had power. The Pubs are run by the "blue bloods".
58
posted on
08/11/2006 7:33:32 AM PDT
by
wmfights
(Lead, Follow, or Get Out Of The WAY!)
To: uncbob
"Most people who vote democrat or republican do so cause they always have and are unaware of what is really happening in the political world" Yes, it's true. That was exactly the reason my Democrat voting fishing buddy gave. That he always had voted Dem, and so had his father. On the one hand he'll go on about his belief in the free market, then he'll go right out and vote for a socialist. None of these guys believe in affirmative action or even many of the Dem causes; but they see the Dems as the "home team."
59
posted on
08/11/2006 10:49:13 AM PDT
by
Sam Cree
(Don't mix alcopops and ufo's)
To: wmfights
"The Pubs are run by the "blue bloods." I guess you could say the Bushes, the Romneys and other Republicans are blue bloods, but the Dems have their own share of 'em, the Kerrys and the Kennedys come to mind right away. Not to mention FDR, who was a blue blood as well. And this Lamont idiot.
60
posted on
08/11/2006 10:52:24 AM PDT
by
Sam Cree
(Don't mix alcopops and ufo's)
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