Patriotic people can differ on the best way to secure vital interests and debate whether we're overextended or underextended- but there is a time when a nation has to take a stand.
How can they not admit that the security and saftey and viability of their own country and people isn't worth fighting for? That's why it's not just rhetoric,from me,when I say that for some unfathomable reason,these people HATE this country.