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Black flag: Unsers busted at crime scene
KRQE News ^ | 8/9/2006 | KRQE News

Posted on 08/09/2006 5:00:14 PM PDT by JennysCool

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1 posted on 08/09/2006 5:00:15 PM PDT by JennysCool
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To: JennysCool; CedarDave; Tijeras_Slim; Squantos

ping.


2 posted on 08/09/2006 5:01:37 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (August 22)
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To: JennysCool

git'er done boys.


3 posted on 08/09/2006 5:04:13 PM PDT by keat (I'm carbon neutral - how 'bout you?)
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To: JennysCool

They didn't know when to listen to their betters. They should get down on their knees and thank the cops for protecting them from themselves. /sarc


4 posted on 08/09/2006 5:04:32 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: JennysCool

Them boys got themselves caught up in a real caddiewampus!


5 posted on 08/09/2006 5:05:39 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch (No.... wire .... hangers!)
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To: JennysCool
Suspected car thief ends standoff by shooting himself.

A suspected car thief who stood off police for about an hour and a half this morning in a NW Albuquerque neighborhood fatally shot himself shortly before 11 a.m. with a shotgun-type weapon, Albuquerque Police Department spokesman John Walsh tells ABQjournal.com.

Detectives remain on the scene where they are investigating the means and circumstances of the man's death, Walsh said.

The incident began to unfold around 9:24 this morning, when police pursued a man driving a suspected stolen car, driving recklessly through neighborhood streets until crashing into another vehicle at the corner of Unser and Bluewater, Walsh said.

The man, whose identity isn't known yet, allegedly fired shots at police as they pursued him, and police ordered the closure of several streets as they waited for the man to give himself up.

Walsh said police discovered that the man had shot himself at 10:54 a.m.

Police said the man was a suspect in several recent carjackings, KOAT-TV reported.

After the stolen car crashed into an SUV, two people in the SUV were taken to a hospital with non-life-threatening injuries, police told KOAT-TV.

Police discovered the man was dead after firing tear gas and approaching the car, KOAT-TV reported.

According to KRQE-TV, the stolen vehicle -- a gold-colored Ford Excursion -- was spotted by an officer on patrol and when the officer tried to pull the driver over, the driver -- described as a Hispanic male in his late teens to early 20s -- fled, allegedly firing at the pursuing officers.

"We believe at this time that this individual may have been responsible for several carjackings in a spree of crime that has lasted over at least the last week within the city of Albuquerque and in the county of Bernalillo," Walsh told KRQE.

No officers were reported injured, and the streets surrounding the Unser and Bluewater area that were closed during the incident have reopened, except for the immediate area of the standoff, KRQE reported.

10:40am UPDATE: A suspected car thief who allegedly fired shots at pursuing officers this morning remains inside the stolen car where it crashed into another vehicle at Unser and Bluewater NW, Albuquerque Police Department spokesman John Walsh tells ABQjournal.com.

Police have blocked off Unser from Central to Los Volcanes NW, as well as Bluewater NW in both directions from Unser, as officers try to get the still-unidentified suspect to surrender, Walsh said.

As police gave chase to the suspect, he allegedly fired several shots at officers as he drove recklessly, sometimes the wrong way, down some neighborhood streets, before he crashed into another car, Walsh said.

10:15am UPDATE: Albuquerque police have blocked off Unser from Central to Los Volcanes NW as they pursue a suspect who allegedly stole a car and were chasing him when he wrecked the car at the intersection of Unser and Bluewater NW. He took off again, firing shots at officers as he fled, KOAT-TV is reporting.

10:10am -- Suspected Car Thief At Bay: Police block NW ABQ streets waiting for suspect to give up.

The Albuquerque Police Department won't say why, but they have ordered Unser between Bluewater and Central NW and Bluewater from Unser to Coors NW closed to traffic, KOB-TV is reporting.

We'll let you know what's happening as soon as we find out.



http://www.abqjournal.com/abqnews/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1298&Itemid=2



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6 posted on 08/09/2006 5:05:42 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (August 22)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Thanks for the extra detail!


7 posted on 08/09/2006 5:08:00 PM PDT by JennysCool (Roll out the Canarble Wagon!)
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To: IronJack

Sound like the cops were protecting the Unsers from their own stupidity as well as a guy with a shotgun.


8 posted on 08/09/2006 5:08:06 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: IronJack
he still refused to leave, saying it was his property--he owned it.

If it was on his property the cops should obey his request.

9 posted on 08/09/2006 5:08:11 PM PDT by Orange1998
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To: JennysCool

Accidently or deliberately shot himself with a sawed off shotgun? Is accidently really a possibility?


10 posted on 08/09/2006 5:08:28 PM PDT by somemoreequalthanothers (All for the betterment of "the state", comrade)
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To: Orange1998

On what grounds?


11 posted on 08/09/2006 5:09:59 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Orange1998; 1rudeboy

You two definitely have outlined the two poles of the argument. Guess we'll just have to see how this unfolds.


12 posted on 08/09/2006 5:10:58 PM PDT by JennysCool (Roll out the Canarble Wagon!)
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To: 1rudeboy

Sounds like they were protecting the public from a dead man.


13 posted on 08/09/2006 5:11:06 PM PDT by SouthTexas (It's summer, of course it's hot.)
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To: JennysCool
apparently thought their celebrity status meant they were above the law

wow... straight, unbiased news

14 posted on 08/09/2006 5:11:56 PM PDT by GeronL (http://www.mises.org/story/1975 <--no such thing as a fairtax)
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To: Jet Jaguar
Must chime in here:
Admittedly I was a fan of both the senior Unsers & remember when Junior ran sprints at Ascot a couple of times.

I'm usually pro-police; BUT...

Similar thing happened to me when a "recovering" druggie rammed my girlfriend's car, in front of my house (20MPH zone), pushing it onto the green verge and totalling both cars;
so the locals handcuffed me because I drove up, parked, and asked what the hell happened.

Did I mention that they unloaded all the swag from the guy's car, onto my lawn, and gave him a ride home because he was obviously 'tired'?

Only intervention by a retired cop/neighbor got me out of the patrol car (and got the crap picked up from my lawn).

We were both just thrilled afterward when the local engineering cult proclaimed that the crush-zone had worked on her new lexus.

15 posted on 08/09/2006 5:12:16 PM PDT by norton (just lucky the bas#@$d missed my '57)
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To: JennysCool
why would they need to steal a car. this makes no sense.

Sounds like the government wants to OFF them.

16 posted on 08/09/2006 5:12:42 PM PDT by GeronL (http://www.mises.org/story/1975 <--no such thing as a fairtax)
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To: JennysCool

Sure thing. I lived there many years ago, I had to see what part of town this thing occured.


17 posted on 08/09/2006 5:12:50 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (August 22)
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To: IronJack
They didn't know when to listen to their betters. They should get down on their knees and thank the cops for protecting them from themselves.

The cops are their "betters" when they're in pursuit and working a crime scene.

The Unsers apparently have your attitude, which is why they got cuffed.

18 posted on 08/09/2006 5:13:10 PM PDT by sinkspur (Today, we settled all family business.)
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To: GeronL
Since this is apparently a TV script (I used to write 'em), unbiased writing would come as a real shock. Newspapers are bad, but TV is just plain terrible in that regard.
19 posted on 08/09/2006 5:14:38 PM PDT by JennysCool (Roll out the Canarble Wagon!)
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To: Jet Jaguar; farmfriend

sounds like their rights were violated


20 posted on 08/09/2006 5:14:49 PM PDT by GeronL (http://www.mises.org/story/1975 <--no such thing as a fairtax)
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To: JennysCool

Seems as if hardly a week goes by without some puffed-up "celebrity" making an idiot of himself.


21 posted on 08/09/2006 5:15:32 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: 1rudeboy

The authority of an owner on his property trumps all others. I don't see where this incident interfered with the investigation.


22 posted on 08/09/2006 5:15:45 PM PDT by Orange1998
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To: sinkspur

The Unsers act like small time big shots, very small indeed.


23 posted on 08/09/2006 5:16:10 PM PDT by laconic
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To: GeronL
To: Jet Jaguar; farmfriend

This account has been banned or suspended.

farmfriend - a long time ago.

24 posted on 08/09/2006 5:17:25 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: JennysCool

I'm going to pop some popcorn. You want butter or salt?


25 posted on 08/09/2006 5:17:27 PM PDT by PistolPaknMama (Al-Queda can recruit on college campuses but the US military can't! --FReeper airborne)
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To: Graybeard58
??

what happened to farmfriend?? was he Travis McGee'd? (just asking, nothing implied)

26 posted on 08/09/2006 5:19:06 PM PDT by GeronL (http://www.mises.org/story/1975 <--no such thing as a fairtax)
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To: GeronL
was he Travis McGee'd?

Farmfriend is female. She and my grandaughter are friends. I don't know why she was banned and neither does my grand daughter but she told me about it 3 or 4 months ago.

27 posted on 08/09/2006 5:22:45 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Orange1998

Authority to expose himself to gunfire? That's a new one to me.


28 posted on 08/09/2006 5:23:07 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Jet Jaguar
....with a shotgun-type weapon ....

As opposed to a shotgun?

29 posted on 08/09/2006 5:23:48 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (The W Legacy: $5 Gas, 100 Million Mexicans, Hillary (or worse) for President.)
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To: laconic

Do you know who we used to be?


30 posted on 08/09/2006 5:24:41 PM PDT by sine_nomine (Confidential to Bush: protect the borders. The first word in "illegal immigrant" is...?)
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To: sine_nomine

LOL


31 posted on 08/09/2006 5:25:21 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Kenny Bunk
with a shotgun-type weapon ....

As opposed to a shotgun?

It was some other type gun, cleverly disguised to look like a shot gun.

32 posted on 08/09/2006 5:26:02 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: GeronL

I think what happen to Travis McGee was a shame. His story needs to be told.


33 posted on 08/09/2006 5:26:09 PM PDT by Orange1998
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To: JennysCool

This one is quite binary. [chuckle]


34 posted on 08/09/2006 5:26:49 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Orange1998
I think what happen to Travis McGee was a shame. His story needs to be told.

Tell it. I am not familiar with it.

35 posted on 08/09/2006 5:27:00 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Orange1998
If it was on his property the cops should obey his request.

The article said that the standoff was near the Unser's property, not on it.

36 posted on 08/09/2006 5:27:20 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: JennysCool
What's the line that we always see in these stories? Wait for it... “Don't you know who I am? Ah yes, it's classic.
37 posted on 08/09/2006 5:28:08 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity ("Sharpei diem - Seize the wrinkled dog.")
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To: 1rudeboy

What from a dead man. But lets pretend the bad guy was alive, he could go onto his property under duress if he wants too. The Land of the Free and Brave?


38 posted on 08/09/2006 5:29:07 PM PDT by Orange1998
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To: 1rudeboy
On what grounds?

On the grounds that "libertarianism" is actually a lack of rationality.

39 posted on 08/09/2006 5:29:39 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: Orange1998
I think what happen to Travis McGee was a shame. His story needs to be told.

He tells it all the time at LP.

You'd love that place. Goldi knows all the Secret Service guys by their first names, and has their business cards in her rolodex.

40 posted on 08/09/2006 5:31:12 PM PDT by sinkspur (Today, we settled all family business.)
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To: Orange1998
While the incident was still unfolding, Bernalillo County sheriff's investigators allege Al Unser started going through a roadblock in an attempt to get to his property. Despite six or seven warnings to leave the area, he still refused to leave, saying it was his property--he owned it. [emphasis added]

41 posted on 08/09/2006 5:31:19 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: rogue yam
Despite six or seven warnings to leave the area, he still refused to leave, saying it was his property--he owned it.
42 posted on 08/09/2006 5:31:24 PM PDT by Orange1998
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To: 1rudeboy
sarasmom would be tossed in jail, too, given the circumstances.
The situation could have been avoided, if the cops had just shot the "dangerous suspect" and ended the entire ordeal before they shut the area down.

God save me from "police protection of the public", if it interferes with me protecting my family or my property.
43 posted on 08/09/2006 5:32:41 PM PDT by sarasmom (To all political staff lurkers: SECURE THE BORDERS, OR YOU'RE FIRED!)
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To: Graybeard58

Worst day on this forum for many good longtime freepers.


44 posted on 08/09/2006 5:32:56 PM PDT by wardaddy (I have undergone Harpie detox, it was very tough but well worth it)
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To: Orange1998
lol ... and long may his story be told....

sorry... yes, I don't know what happened to Travis McGee and farmfriend.

45 posted on 08/09/2006 5:33:49 PM PDT by GeronL (http://www.mises.org/story/1975 <--no such thing as a fairtax)
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To: rogue yam

I getting a strong sense of a private-property based right to interfere in a police action by exposing oneself to harm.


46 posted on 08/09/2006 5:33:54 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: sinkspur
You'd love that place. Goldi knows all the Secret Service guys by their first names, and has their business cards in her rolodex

LOL.... maybe Travis should have gone to CU instead.

47 posted on 08/09/2006 5:35:27 PM PDT by GeronL (http://www.mises.org/story/1975 <--no such thing as a fairtax)
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To: JennysCool

Bobby was heard saying "Well, ya see Sam, you're wrong and I'll tellya why."


48 posted on 08/09/2006 5:36:20 PM PDT by Benrand (MEATLOAF)
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To: 1rudeboy

Hey, if the Unsers want to be a Darwin candidate its their RIGHT! =o)


49 posted on 08/09/2006 5:36:46 PM PDT by GeronL (http://www.mises.org/story/1975 <--no such thing as a fairtax)
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To: sarasmom
The situation could have been avoided, if the cops had just shot the "dangerous suspect" and ended the entire ordeal before they shut the area down.

Are you a cop? Do you know the rules of engagement for the Albuquerque police department?

Lots of hot-doggin' goin' on on this thread.

50 posted on 08/09/2006 5:37:16 PM PDT by sinkspur (Today, we settled all family business.)
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