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To: Gordongekko909
Climate expert Richard S. Lindzen of M.I.T. has indicated that the vast amount of government research money available for studies of "global warming" can discourage skeptics from being vocal about their skepticism...watched an interesting exchange on C-Span yesterday between a a congresswoman (from Tennessee I believe) and whateverhisfirstnameis Mann, who did the infamous "hockey stick" study purporting to prove global warming - she was trying to get him to agree to submit his data to an independent committee for evaluation, and he kept insisting that his study had been "peer-reviewed" before being published in supposedly reputable journals - another expert on the panel, a statistician, called Mann out, emphasizing that most such peer reviews were really done by others in the "social network" of scientists working in the field and thus weren't likely to provide a genuinely objective evaluation - he recommended that independent review panels be adopted for such studies where important public policy decisions might result based on study findings - Sowell is right on target......
18 posted on 08/09/2006 8:47:19 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: Intolerant in NJ
and whateverhisfirstnameis Mann, who did the infamous "hockey stick" study purporting to prove global warming - she was trying to get him to agree to submit his data to an independent committee for evaluation, and he kept insisting that his study had been "peer-reviewed" before being published in supposedly reputable journals - another expert on the panel, a statistician, called Mann out, emphasizing that most such peer reviews were really done by others in the "social network" of scientists working in the field and thus weren't likely to provide a genuinely objective evaluation -

Actually, Wegman (a very prominent Statistician that the NAS had review Mann's work) showed that that appears to be exactly what has happened. Gavin Schmidt, a part of Manns cabal, tries to refute that discrediting of MHB98/99 reflects on the hockey-stick by saying his studies are supported by "nearly a dozen" other studies. A posting by Gavin a month ago about this in response to the Wegman testimony cited 4 studies: by Mann, Mann and Jones, Jones and somebody, and IIRC Rutherford (another member of the cabal). Unfortunately, I can no longer find the particular link. There are similar citations going back to 2004 though.

36 posted on 08/10/2006 1:50:50 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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