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US pressure prompts delay of [Israel's] offensive ("We do not want escalations" - White House)
Jerusalem Post ^ | Aug. 10, 2006 | Yaakov Katz & AP

Posted on 08/10/2006 1:24:03 AM PDT by Basel2005

The IDF General Staff postponed the expansion of ground operations in south Lebanon late Wednesday night, after the security cabinet earlier in the day approved a plan for a widened offensive that would take the army to the Litani River, over 20 kilometers from the border, and beyond, in an effort to prevent the incessant Katyusha rocket attacks on northern Israel.

The troops were already rolling late Wednesday when they were ordered to halt. It appears heavy US pressure delayed the offensive to allow diplomacy to run its course. A senior minister said Wednesday that Israel might delay the expansion for 2-3 days for that purpose.

Prime Minister Ehud Olmert is ready to wait with the offensive until the weekend, said a senior government official who spoke on condition of anonymity because he is not authorized to discuss the issue with reporters. The offensive could begin earlier if Hizbullah launches a major attack on Israel, the official said.

Cabinet minister Rafi Eitan confirmed the govenment's decision to wait. "There are diplomatic considerations," he told Israel Radio. "There is still a chance that an international force will arrive in he area. We have no interest in being in south Lebanon. We have an interest in peace on our borders."

"We want an end to violence and we do not want escalations," White House press secretary Tony Snow said Wednesday hours after the Israeli Cabinet approved an expansion of the ground offensive in southern Lebanon.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Israel
KEYWORDS: 2006israelwar; israel

1 posted on 08/10/2006 1:24:04 AM PDT by Basel2005
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To: Basel2005
Just out of curiosity, escalators can go up as well as down. why do we associate 'escalation' with only going up? Anyone know?
2 posted on 08/10/2006 1:27:46 AM PDT by vimto (Blighty Awaken!)
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To: Basel2005

unfortunately, this whole war on terror is gonna need a serious escalation... if some of those "moderate arab" countries would stand up against their propogation of jihadists, it would be a good thing, but then again, they'd be kinda scared to be honest about the radicals, wouldn't they?


3 posted on 08/10/2006 1:30:11 AM PDT by callthemlikeyouseethem (i was not aborted this way...)
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To: Basel2005

Escalate till the Katyushas are gone... seems a no brainer to me


4 posted on 08/10/2006 1:31:44 AM PDT by The Red Zone
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To: vimto

That reminds me of an ancient cartoon dating back to the early years of the last century in which a British "lift" boy is explaining to two Americans why elevators are called lifts in Britain. "I can lift you up and I can lift you down again," the boy says before he continues, "And I can elevate you up, but I cannot elevate you down again."

The problem lies with the word escalator and not the word escalate.


5 posted on 08/10/2006 1:33:22 AM PDT by Basel2005
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To: Basel2005

Witty and informative. What more can one want from a post. thanks!


6 posted on 08/10/2006 1:35:10 AM PDT by vimto (Blighty Awaken!)
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To: Basel2005

It's like "Frigidaire" ... It keeps the milk cold too!

:~)


7 posted on 08/10/2006 1:38:16 AM PDT by MindBender26 (Having my own CAR-15 in RVN meant never having to say I was sorry....)
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To: Basel2005

It reminds me of Thatcher's great line to Bush I at the time of the Gulf War..."No time to go wobbly on me, George."

Eh tu, Bush II?

If the Islamofascists are braying for a ceasefire, then no quarter given.


8 posted on 08/10/2006 1:47:03 AM PDT by Roy Tucker
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To: Basel2005; Just A Nobody; Fred Nerks
It appears heavy US pressure delayed the offensive to allow diplomacy to run its course.

"We want an end to violence and we do not want escalations,"


There will be NO peace until the enemy is defeated!

9 posted on 08/10/2006 1:48:37 AM PDT by jan in Colorado
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To: vimto

You're welcome. :-)


10 posted on 08/10/2006 1:53:31 AM PDT by Basel2005
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To: Basel2005

I do not get this pressure from the White House. I will take the reports of it with a grain of salt, but it looks like Israel stopped mid-stride, so there must have been some kind of pressure being exherted.

Look folks, when the Katushas stop raining on Israel and when Israel has beaten back all resistance on the way to the Litani River, then this effort can end.

If it ends before that, the Hezbollah will return to southern Lebanon and this will have to be done all over agian.

Why would we pressure Israel to stop, then remain in Iraq? If we're consistant, we stop Israel and bring our troops home in the middle of the effort. Either that or we remain in Iraq until the job is done, and let Israel remain in Lebanon until their work is done.

If the White House is pressuring Israel, it angers me to no end. Damnit, let Israel do what needs to be done. We've spent the last decade telling Israel to show restraint. That's bulls--t.

Would we allow Mexico or Canada to fire thousands of rockets at us, and listen to anyone at all tell us not to respond? The answer is undeniably NO. And that's HELL NO.


11 posted on 08/10/2006 1:55:35 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Bring your press credentials to Qana, for the world's most convincing terrorist street theater.)
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To: jan in Colorado
PERFECT POST! Just say NO TO APPEASEMENT!

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12 posted on 08/10/2006 1:56:55 AM PDT by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN..Support our Troops! www.irey.com and www.vets4Irey.com - Now more than Ever!)
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To: Basel2005

It seems likely to me that this massive build up was mostly for show in the first place.

Perhaps to push the Lebanon government into accepting an international force to be deployed with their pathetic army to assure that it was not just providing cover for Hez to re-assume the positions the IDF kicked them out of.

The key things I saw were the tanks and armored vehicles being unloaded near the front lines on all the networks. These were not battle ready in any sense of the word, covered in rust, no stores, no spares, and no Tank Crews anywhere in site. Just raw hulls as best as I could tell.

All a show to divert the news media while the "real units" were probably unloaded elsewhere.

I have no doubt that if this "waving of the sword" (a trick borrowed from the arabs) does not work, there will be a push into Lebanon in a big way. Next weekend is my guess.


13 posted on 08/10/2006 1:57:13 AM PDT by adamsjas
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To: DoughtyOne; jan in Colorado
Would we allow Mexico or Canada to fire thousands of rockets at us, and listen to anyone at all tell us not to respond? The answer is undeniably NO. And that's HELL NO.

Perfect analogy. Thanks.

14 posted on 08/10/2006 1:59:18 AM PDT by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN..Support our Troops! www.irey.com and www.vets4Irey.com - Now more than Ever!)
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To: DoughtyOne
I do not get this pressure from the White House. I will take the reports of it with a grain of salt, but it looks like Israel stopped mid-stride, so there must have been some kind of pressure being exerted.

Its all part of the dance, being choreographed in high places. Worry not...

15 posted on 08/10/2006 1:59:43 AM PDT by adamsjas
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To: vimto
Just out of curiosity, escalators can go up as well as down. why do we associate 'escalation' with only going up? Anyone know?

Don't know about that, but the word 'escalation' is very similar to the word escalator. Funny story behind that 'escalator' word. The Otis Elevator company invented the word as the name of a new product. You can probably guess the product, no doubt. Unfortunately they lost the trademark for the word escalator. It became a common usage term. Otis Elevator became famous when they themselves incorrectly used the word as an adjective in one of their own print adds. Big trademark mistake. They are now a historic example of how not to handle a trademarked name. And yes escalators can take you up and they can also take you down.

At any rate, unfortunately it appears that the same great American Foreign Policy Team that brought you 'Downtown Baghdad' and 'The US/Mexican Border' is now trying to 'solve' the middle east crisis, he said sarcastically.

16 posted on 08/10/2006 2:00:16 AM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: justa-hairyape
Doncha just love real life! Thanks for that tale of noun to verb misery. You would think it would be a basic object lesson for any marketing student.
17 posted on 08/10/2006 2:04:10 AM PDT by vimto (Blighty Awaken!)
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To: adamsjas; Just A Nobody
All a show to divert the news media while the "real units" were probably unloaded elsewhere

I was thinking/hoping the same thing!

18 posted on 08/10/2006 2:04:20 AM PDT by jan in Colorado
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To: Basel2005
I am hoping the words against "escalations" are for show. Notice the plural use of the word. This is a telegraph to the Iranians. When Israel steps up the ground war, that is a good use of strategery. When Iran launches air strikes against Israeli ground forces, that is "escalations." When Iran crosses the line with direct intervention, that is "escalations" that will require direct response to Iran. Then you will have cause and effect "escalations."

Go Israel!
19 posted on 08/10/2006 2:07:59 AM PDT by jonrick46
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To: adamsjas

NO!

This is the same song and dance that cost us so many in Vietnam. We would kick the enemies butt, then Congress would ride Nixon like a ten year old donkey, demanding he institute a ceasefire. When he would, the NVC would regroup, severely limiting the effects of the beating they had taken.

Here Israel has Hezbollah on the run. Now they are being asked to hold off... and as they do Hezbollah is regrouping to kill off as many of the Israelis as they can in the next few days.

This is no way to win. Those at the highest positions know this very well.


20 posted on 08/10/2006 2:08:37 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Bring your press credentials to Qana, for the world's most convincing terrorist street theater.)
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To: jan in Colorado

Uhhh-uhhh.


21 posted on 08/10/2006 2:10:10 AM PDT by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN..Support our Troops! www.irey.com and www.vets4Irey.com - Now more than Ever!)
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To: Basel2005

Let's see, when I set a box on the floor I am lifting it there?


22 posted on 08/10/2006 2:12:53 AM PDT by The Red Zone
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To: Just A Nobody
It's time!

23 posted on 08/10/2006 2:13:32 AM PDT by jan in Colorado
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To: jonrick46

Some kind of vague appeal to the Hezbullies not to shoot more Katyushas at Israel while Israel bombs yet more Hezbully facilities.


24 posted on 08/10/2006 2:14:09 AM PDT by The Red Zone
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To: Basel2005

Iran's sending people to fight in Lebanon, but we blink. Does this make Israel feel safe? Clearly the WH knew about Iranians fighting with Hezbollah...talk about stupid. Israel should have told the WH to stuff it.


25 posted on 08/10/2006 2:18:44 AM PDT by hershey
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To: Basel2005
This makes no sense.

I would think that the WH wants Lebanon to dominate the news cycle as cover while they take care of business in Baghdad.


BUMP

26 posted on 08/10/2006 2:35:13 AM PDT by capitalist229 (Get Democrats out of our pockets and Republicans out of our bedrooms.)
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To: Basel2005

I guess we are being blackmailed here in the states with liquid which might already be here!

We Must have been told a few days ago to get Israel to hault its activities!
Is this liquid the WMD which the liberals never said existed?

Do any of you remember hearing that conversation a few years back?

I heard Rush one day a few years back describe WMD small enough to be carry in one's pocket


27 posted on 08/10/2006 2:48:27 AM PDT by restornu (Steadfast as we move into troublesome days ahead: “We do not take counsel from our fears.”)
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To: restornu
I heard Rush one day a few years back describe WMD small enough to be carry in one's pocket

We've known for 20 years that there are some biolocial/chemical warfare agents where a few drops would wipe out quite a few people, so this is not new.

28 posted on 08/10/2006 3:31:12 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: Basel2005

Israel screws around and fails to eliminate the hezzies will get Israelis killed. And loads of them.
What, is it the U.S. State Dept that objects to escalation?


29 posted on 08/10/2006 4:08:39 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (an enemy of islam)
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To: Basel2005

I knew Ohlmert is not up to the job.


30 posted on 08/10/2006 4:23:16 AM PDT by Stepan12 (NY Times: Bush finds cure for cancer; healthcare workers to suffer massive layoffs)
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31 posted on 08/10/2006 4:53:49 AM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn't do!)
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To: Basel2005

The Israeli people should dust off the President's speech to congress shortly after 9/11, and send him a copy. We have no business directing Israel on how they should proceed.


32 posted on 08/10/2006 5:01:46 AM PDT by conservativecorner
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To: Basel2005

White House: BUTT OUT!


33 posted on 08/10/2006 5:12:10 AM PDT by RoadTest (For all the land which thou seest, to thee will I give it, and to they seed forever - Gen. 13:15)
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To: Basel2005
I'm tired of this talking out of both sides of our collective faces. Either Israel is a sovereign country who, has the right to defend itself or it's a puppet to world opinion.
34 posted on 08/10/2006 5:40:48 AM PDT by wolfcreek (You can spit in our tacos and you can rape our dogs but, you can't take away our freedom!)
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To: AmericaUnited

And what was that besides nitro?


35 posted on 08/10/2006 7:02:28 AM PDT by restornu (Steadfast as we move into troublesome days ahead: “We do not take counsel from our fears.”)
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To: jan in Colorado

Thanks for the ping. Hope you slept well here at FR. ;*)


36 posted on 08/10/2006 8:32:20 AM PDT by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN..Support our Troops! www.irey.com and www.vets4Irey.com - Now more than Ever!)
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To: Basel2005

Okay, sounds like interference to me. So much for the free hand. Micro-managing someone else's messy war of self-defense...yet again.


37 posted on 08/10/2006 10:30:21 AM PDT by Paul Ross (We cannot be for lawful ordinances and for an alien conspiracy at one and the same moment.-Cicero)
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38 posted on 08/10/2006 6:02:19 PM PDT by Salem (FREE REPUBLIC - Fighting to win within the Arena of the War of Ideas! So get in the fight!)
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To: Basel2005
The Israelis should just ignore Washington and let the Israelis prosecute the war.
39 posted on 08/10/2006 6:03:53 PM PDT by garbageseeker ("The best form of defense is attack." -Karl Philippe Gottfried von Clausewitz)
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Bush is slowly becoming as destructive to our national security as Clinton.


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