Posted on 08/11/2006 10:28:49 PM PDT by DannyTN
That's a good reminder. I need to send another contribution to the relief society.
Thanks!
Listen you sorry piece of dirt, I'm perfectly aware of the fact that we are in a life and death battle with a horrible enemy. That's why I advocate destroying the enemy. You're the coward who's advocating that we surrender our freedoms to that enemy. I favor surveillance of the enemy. I oppose revealing the programs we have to inflict harm on the enemy. The difference between us is that I know our history well enough to know that our nation was founded on protecting individual freedoms and not creating invasive government programs no matter how good ones intentions are. You're just so intent on removing individual freedoms that you just can't imagine seeking solutions that involve hurting our enemies instead of restricting our freedoms.
Bill
Let me know when you become something more than a sheeple.
I can't tell whether you are just too stupid to understand my points or whether you are just being dishonest when you try to claim that I support the NY Times publication of programs designed to spy on our enemies. Either way, your inability to make your arguments to what I've actually said is more evidence that your arguments are nonsense.
Bill
I don't think that we are that far apart. If destroying our enemies results in shortages and rationing for a while, I understand that those things are part of fighting a war. The important thing is that we force our enemies to cease their hostile intentions against us. I was touched a month or so ago when the Japanese prime minister toured Graceland with President Bush. Sixty-five years ago, we were mortal enemies with the Japanese. If we hadn't broken their fighting spirit to win the war, we might still be dangerous enemies today. The closeness between our leaders and countries today could not have happened if people had tried to deal with Japan by letting them continue to exist under the old system and reducing freedoms here in the United States. The current attitudes in the United States scare me because we seem willing to let the enemy remain alive to continue their war against us.
Bill
It is times like these when I hope somebody over in the CIA or the NSA decides to live up to their perceived reputations heaped upon them by the likes of Tom Clancy and Liberal Hollywood.
What a fine time to bust out with a "Random Dialer" mission where all these pre-paid phones get autodialed at random times throughout the day with "Hi, this is a political call from {somebody running for office you want to be the fall guy for this stunt}, and..." so maybe we end up hearing a few cases of "Huge explosion in the residential neighborhood of {pick your favorite Islamic terrorist enclave on our shores}"
Think we can perhaps thank the MSM for reporting on the details of our telephone surveillance efforts? Yes, we can.
B*stards.
So true.
My mom tells the story about when her mother passed, during WWII, and both of her brothers were in the military. Mom was only 18 and had lost her dad the year before, so her brothers were all she had.
One was in the states, and was able to make it home for the funeral, but the other was overseas, and for security reasons, could not be reached for several days.
To this day, when my 82 year old mom speaks of this, she says that she understood, and still does, as those are the sacrifices we must make for our country's freedoms and security.
So one can understand when I read a news article about someone in our pampered, spoiled society gets their panties in a bunch when they have to toss out their hairgel during security checks at an airport. Do these people not get it? Nevermind, I already know the answer.
Cell phones are far more sophisticated than most people can imagine.
In a simple scenario, an incoming call causes the phone to ring. However, the ringer wires were connected by the terrorist to the detonator of a bomb.
Only the users identity is unknown. The phone itself is traceable.
http://www.youareworthmore.org/node/21435
I did not post a link because I am not sure whether it is against the rules, but here are some of the posts.
Trac phones and terrorists
Posted by dgleadclerk at 2006-03-26 16:59 Has anyone heard about the people who come in and buy all the trac phones? They supposodly have terrorist ties and are using them for bombs.
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Posted by overit4good Sun, 2006-03-26 22:20 I dont know about terrorist but it is funny that you bring that up. Not to long ago I had some one of India or Iraq origin come to my store and wanted 40 track phones and I sold him what we had left which was a case of 12 a box of 3 and the four that were hanging on the rack. And he pulled out a very large sum of money and paid for them in cash at $20 a piece. HMMMMM does sound strange. I wondered at the time what he wanted all those phones for but I not once thought of that. Scary idea...... ___________________________________________________________
Posted by dgleadclerk Mon, 2006-03-27 05:27 Well around here the FBI is involved in this so I don't think it is convenience store owners.
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Posted by DGSUCKS Sat, 2006-05-06 11:37 A gentlemen came to mu store about 2 weeks ago and bought 29 trac phones from us and he also cleaned out the 6 DG stores within 45 miles of my store and a FD store as well.
When I helped him to his care it appeared to me that he has an additional 200 or so phones already in his truck and he said it was an after school project.
Re post 48, I agree.
What about the poor homeless?
Thanks!
"The only problem I have is that we may create a law where you can only purchase one cell phone per month. Sounds familiar?"
I agree with you....It's as if the problem is really the cell phone and not the guy attaching it to an IED, assuming that is what is actually being done.
If there is a problem, it's not that "untraceable" cellphones are for sale.
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