Posted on 08/12/2006 5:59:58 AM PDT by Man50D
sign me up
Your basic dishonesty is showing - I never said everything is unknowable, or that things shoud remain as they are; just that there are significant unknowns in how the FairTax will impact individual behavior to predict with certainty what the numbers will be.
Teenagers are famous for knowing everything. Are you a teenager plotting emancipation from stick-in-the-mud adults?
Poof, GONE!!!
Are you asserting that chemical reactions, biological activity, novas, black dwarfs, light, gravity, etc. can not exist without human beings? The natural world exists and follows laws that human beings can discover and use, but not create, economics is a human creation. See the difference?
lucy is telling about how it's impossible to predict human behavior by predicting human behavior.
it boggles the mind.
You guys, then, can accurately predict your wives moods, and what she will buy when she heads out the door to go shopping.
Please link us all to the post where I did the above. IF you can't, then do I get to call you a liar? If you can, then I retract because he didn't do any such thing. He merely stated, as I reiterated that "many" economists. So one way or the other, link us to the post.
You haven't grasped the concept of how human behavior drives the math before, why would explaining it to you one more time make a difference?
What I haven't grasped is not the fact that tax laws effect behavior. I have been studying that for 25 years. I can't grasp that there is a poster on FR who insists that giving the power back to the people who first loaned it to the central government is going to somehow be bad. It would only be bad for people like you who are entrenched in the status quo. You do understand that nobody loves you here except for your fellow entrenchees. I hope you have a nice life living off of the audits of your fellow Americans. Here's a question for you: what is lower than whale excrement at the bottom of the Marianna Trench?
The FairTax changes the way taxes are collected. It is not a transfer of power!
If you believe that then you'd better start explaining how you come to such an imbecilic conclusion.
#1109
Oh, BTW, if 1109 is what you are talking about then you are a liar.
groanup in his own words, post 1,111 I suppose you are trying to somehow, in some minute, stretching way imply that Greenspan didn't for sure, absolutely, definitely, without a doubt postively and whole heartedly endorse a consumption tax.
Now groanup claims he said
He merely stated, as I reiterated that "many" economists.
I certainly wouldn't expect an apology from a groanup who present's a well reasoned, insightful argument like
You do understand that nobody loves you here except for your fellow entrenchees. I hope you have a nice life living off of the audits of your fellow Americans. Here's a question for you: what is lower than whale excrement at the bottom of the Marianna Trench?
I am beginning to wonder if you are serious about what you post, or if you are just a troll.
Fine. Let's stop wasting bandwidth sniping on the last page of a dead thread.
It's completely concocted. Your post #1109 was entirely correct.
the IRS has the power to destroy ANYONE in the USA earning a decent living on a mear whimBump.You've joined a tax protest cult, AG.
Delicious irony.
You deny the IRS has that power?
To recognize an obvious failing of the current system is hardly joining force with those who would violate the current laws to evade paying taxes due.
But then you are never one to avoid the use of hyperbole in creating your logical fallacies.
To "destroy ANYONE in the USA earning a decent living on a mear whim?"
That's lunatic tax protest rhetoric.
Do you subscribe to that nonsense?
That's lunatic tax protest rhetoric.
A fair description of your opinion of such hyperbole without a doubt.
Do you subscribe to that nonsense?
IMO your expressed opinions on such things have generally been nonsense.
As regards my opinion of the essence of the statement made:
"the IRS has the power to destroy ANYONE in the USA earning a decent living on a mear whim"
The statement is certainly in the class of hyperbole, nevertheless individual documented cases of IRS abuse of individual tax payers abound and in its essence describes an undesirable attribute of the current organ for tax system administration known as the IRS.
Any agency wielding the kind of administrative power the IRS has, and of demonstrated capacity for destruction of individuals as well as organizations and businesses on what amounts to the whim of certain of its agents, is indeed an anethama to any semblence of a free society.
I very much subscribe to the perception the IRS is an out of control agency. An agency that is, in many respects, inherently destructive by reason of its appointed tasks to administrate the income/payroll tax systems of the United States.
As my efforts are dedicated to removing its essential reason for even existing in the form it does, the existence of the personal income and payroll tax system of the United States, I certainly do not find such statements to be conterproductive or even that unreasonable in light of the known abuses in that agency.
IMO, to take any other stance is not only nonsense, it is dangerous to the essential principles of personal liberty this nation is based on.
Standard tax protester rhetoric. From NRST promoters.
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