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US involved in planning Israel operations -- The New Yorker (Seymour Hersh)
Agence France-Presse (excerpt) ^ | August 13, 2006

Posted on 08/13/2006 1:20:34 AM PDT by HAL9000

Excerpt -

US involved in planning Israel operations -- The New Yorker

Lebanon offensive prelude to strike on Iran

NEW YORK -- The US government was closely involved in the planning of Israel's military operations against Islamic militant group Hezbollah even before the July 12 kidnapping of two Israeli soldiers, “The New Yorker magazine reported in its latest issue.

The kidnapping triggered a month-long Israeli operation in South Lebanon that is expected to come to an end on Monday.

But Pulitzer Prize-winning US journalist Seymour Hersh writes that President George W. Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney were convinced that a successful Israeli bombing campaign against Hezbollah could ease Israel's security concerns and also serve as a prelude to a potential US preemptive attack to destroy Iran's nuclear installations.

Citing an unnamed Middle East expert with knowledge of the current thinking of the Israeli and US governments, Israel had devised a plan for attacking Hezbollah -- and shared it with Bush administration officials -- well before the July 12 kidnappings.

The expert added that the White House had several reasons for supporting a bombing campaign, the report said.

If there was to be a military option against Iran, it had to get rid of the weapons Hezbollah could use in a potential retaliation against Israel, Hersh writes.

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(Excerpt) Read more at newsinfo.inq7.net ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2006israelwar; antiamericamedia; fifthcolumn; geopolitics; hersh; hezbollah; iran; lebanon; medialies; newyorker; seymour; seymourhersh; traitors
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1 posted on 08/13/2006 1:20:35 AM PDT by HAL9000
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Whether this is true or false, Seymour has gone over to the dark side, and should be up on charges.


2 posted on 08/13/2006 1:23:03 AM PDT by D-fendr
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To: HAL9000

"Pulitzer Prize-winning US journalist Seymour Hersh"

should read traitor alert.


3 posted on 08/13/2006 1:23:04 AM PDT by bilhosty (to hell with ABCNNBCBS)
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To: HAL9000
Hey Hersey, what happened to your claims that Bush was going to nuke Iran?
4 posted on 08/13/2006 1:23:44 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (History shows us that if you are not willing to fight, you better be prepared to die)
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To: HAL9000


Cripes.
He gets worse with age.


5 posted on 08/13/2006 1:24:24 AM PDT by onyx (1 Billion Muslims -- "if" only 10% are radical, that's 100 Million who want to kill us.)
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To: HAL9000

Well, Iran has promised us a surprise on Aug. 22. I'm watching my calendar. I don't think the plane bombings were all he had in mind.


6 posted on 08/13/2006 1:25:39 AM PDT by NaughtiusMaximus (WARNING: Alcohol may cause you to think you are whispering when you are definitely not.)
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To: onyx

No kidding.


7 posted on 08/13/2006 1:26:42 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: onyx
How can this story possibly help the United States? You know, the country Hersh should care about, since he IS an American.

Oh, wait, I think I just answered my own question....

8 posted on 08/13/2006 1:28:46 AM PDT by IrishRainy
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To: nopardons

9 posted on 08/13/2006 1:29:12 AM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: nopardons
I guess putting ( Seymour Hersh ) in parenthesis is a good enough substitution for a barf alert...lol.
10 posted on 08/13/2006 1:30:25 AM PDT by onyx (1 Billion Muslims -- "if" only 10% are radical, that's 100 Million who want to kill us.)
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To: HAL9000

DUmmie feed. They have to get their fix or they go into delusion withdrawal.


11 posted on 08/13/2006 1:30:42 AM PDT by thoughtomator (Islam delenda est)
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To: Fitzcarraldo
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seymour_Hersh

His work first gained worldwide recognition in 1969 for exposing the My Lai massacre and its cover-up during the Vietnam War, for which he received the 1970 Pulitzer Prize for International Reporting. His 2004 reports on the US Military's treatment of detainees at Abu Ghraib prison gained much attention. In 2006 he reported on the US military's plans for Iran, which called for the use of nuclear weapons against that country.

12 posted on 08/13/2006 1:31:50 AM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: HAL9000
" Nonetheless, Hersh writes, a former senior intelligence official says some officers serving with the Joint Chiefs of Staff remain deeply concerned that the administration will have a far more positive assessment of the air campaign than they should.

"There is no way that (Defense Secretary Donald) Rumsfeld and Cheney will draw the right conclusion about this," the report quotes the former official as saying. "When the smoke clears, they'll say it was a success, and they'll draw reinforcement for their plan to attack Iran." "

This whole article is merely conjecture. I betting this "Former Official" was a clinton appointee.

13 posted on 08/13/2006 1:32:28 AM PDT by Kakaze
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To: HAL9000
"Where's the PLANNNN?"

Well, thar y' go. And it sounds like a good'un.

So much for a 'do nothing' administration. Now they're just pissed because the 'something' is not what they had in mind.

Hey, Hersh...I elected smarter warriors and tacticians than me to be sneaky and deadly on my behalf. Thanks fer letting me know they're getting the job done.

WaddaMaroon.

14 posted on 08/13/2006 1:33:53 AM PDT by dasboot
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To: onyx

It should be, around here anyway. LOL


15 posted on 08/13/2006 1:34:15 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: HAL9000

Pulitzer Prize? Well, Walter Durantee won the pulitzer prize, and he was complicit in covering up the genocide of millions by the USSR.

As far as I'm concerned, there's NOTHING good to be said about the Pulitzer Prize until it's revoked from the Treason Times and Walter Durantee!

Mark


16 posted on 08/13/2006 1:35:00 AM PDT by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
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To: D-fendr

Bump.


17 posted on 08/13/2006 1:35:52 AM PDT by garbageseeker ("The best form of defense is attack." -Karl Philippe Gottfried von Clausewitz)
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To: HAL9000

The problem with this is the fact that Hezbullah still stands. If the US were involved or if this had any pre-planning in Israel there would not have been so much hesitation by Israeli politicians.


18 posted on 08/13/2006 1:41:42 AM PDT by msnimje ("Beware the F/A - 22 Raptor with open doors" -- Unknown US NAVY Raptor Pilot)
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To: HAL9000

And the media wonders why they are in dumps


19 posted on 08/13/2006 1:45:23 AM PDT by Mo1 (Bolton- "No one has explained how you negotiate a ceasefire with terrorists")
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To: HAL9000
Citing an unnamed Middle East expert...

Read, "I am just making this $hit up."
20 posted on 08/13/2006 1:49:20 AM PDT by msnimje ("Beware the F/A - 22 Raptor with open doors" -- Unknown US NAVY Raptor Pilot)
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To: D-fendr

Seymour Hersh is a rat bastard who betrays his own Jewish people. F*** him and doom on him. Of course he's busy betraying the US when not trying to jam Israel.


21 posted on 08/13/2006 1:49:56 AM PDT by dennisw (Confucius say man who go through turnstile sideways going to Bangkok)
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To: IrishRainy

It's just a continuation of Seymour's stories.
He needs attention.


22 posted on 08/13/2006 1:50:56 AM PDT by onyx (1 Billion Muslims -- "if" only 10% are radical, that's 100 Million who want to kill us.)
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To: msnimje
That is a hallmark of a Seymour Hersh article and book. The famous unnamed "sources".
23 posted on 08/13/2006 1:51:15 AM PDT by garbageseeker ("The best form of defense is attack." -Karl Philippe Gottfried von Clausewitz)
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To: HAL9000

Did nobody read beyond the headline?

"Israel had devised a plan for attacking Hezbollah -- and shared it with Bush administration officials -- well before the July 12 kidnappings."

It's unsurprising the Israelis would touch base with the US before taking action. That's quite different from the headline of Bush and Cheney "planning Israeli operations".

Besides, were it "planned" by the US I suspect the munitions the Israelis urgently requested be supplied half way through the operation would have been delivered prior to the first shot.


24 posted on 08/13/2006 1:54:22 AM PDT by tlb
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To: dennisw

BUMP! You're right and he thinks he's got a 2-fer here.
What a totally despicable, bitter, little man.


25 posted on 08/13/2006 1:55:08 AM PDT by onyx (1 Billion Muslims -- "if" only 10% are radical, that's 100 Million who want to kill us.)
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To: Fedora; Shermy

Seymour Hersh ping


26 posted on 08/13/2006 1:55:23 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: msnimje
The problem with this is the fact that Hezbullah still stands.

Hezbollah is still limping along, but their capabilities have been severely damaged.

It will take time to disarm them because Israel's strategy is for a comprehensive, durable settlement, using military, diplomatic and political means. I think it has a decent chance for success, but time will tell.

Israel is winning the military conflict - but Hezbollah is winning the propaganda war. No matter how badly Hezbollah is beaten, Nasrallah will say they've defeated Israel, and many people are willing to believe him.

27 posted on 08/13/2006 1:56:31 AM PDT by HAL9000 (Happy 10th Anniversary FreeRepublic.com - Est. Sept. 23, 1996 - Thanks Jim!)
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To: HAL9000
When ever I see unnamed middle eastern source, I immediately see red flags. The credibility of this stuff is zero in my opinion. Amen.
28 posted on 08/13/2006 2:00:15 AM PDT by gakrak ("A wise man's heart is his right hand, But a fool's heart is at his left" Eccl 10:2)
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To: onyx

Sy Hersh is competing with the leakers at the NY Times. Rats all of them


29 posted on 08/13/2006 2:01:20 AM PDT by dennisw (Confucius say man who go through turnstile sideways going to Bangkok)
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To: HAL9000

Hersh will be on CNN Late Edition, 11AM ET.


30 posted on 08/13/2006 2:05:43 AM PDT by HAL9000 (Happy 10th Anniversary FreeRepublic.com - Est. Sept. 23, 1996 - Thanks Jim!)
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To: HAL9000
Leave Seymour alone, he's just giving support to those who want to expose the great Zionist-Oil Company-Storm Window Company Conspiracy!

Whenever I wonder about someone like him I always ask, Who benefits from his reporting, and who suffers?

Can the US in any way benefit from this story? Nope.

Can the terrorists be hurt by the reporting of this story? Nope.

31 posted on 08/13/2006 2:23:54 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (http://www.dansimmons.com/news/message/2006_04.htm)
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To: HAL9000

Seymour Hersh....ROTFLMAO.


32 posted on 08/13/2006 2:35:43 AM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: Darkwolf377
I see this as leftists Seymour Hersh's preemptive strike to prevent the United States and/or Israel from striking against Iran's nuclear potential. The following alleged quotation is instructive:

the report quotes the former official as saying. "When the smoke clears, they'll say it was a success, and they'll draw reinforcement for their plan to attack Iran."

In my judgment it must be the principal foreign policy objective of the United States that Iran not obtain nuclear weapons. I would prefer that Israel strike rather than the United States but I suspect that Israel does not have the wherewithal to pull it off. Indeed, is not clear that the United States itself can with airstrikes alone wreck Iran's nuclear program. Putting boots on the ground is simply not an option.

Interestingly, Hersh's preemptive strike reveals volumes about the mindset of the left. They simply believe Bush is capable of any atrocity.


33 posted on 08/13/2006 2:42:24 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("I like to legislate. I feel I've done a lot of good." Sen. Robert Byrd)
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To: HAL9000
this is the guy that a 'hot mike' caught Mr. Bush saying to Mr. Chaney , before their first election , "this guy is a real a-hole from the New York Times" Or something to that effect.
Hersh has no doubt been trying to get back at him ever since.
What a small minded weenie.
34 posted on 08/13/2006 2:52:43 AM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: HAL9000
Isn't "Pulitzer Prize-winning" a pejorative?
35 posted on 08/13/2006 2:55:38 AM PDT by Beckwith (The dhimmicrats and liberal media have chosen sides and they've sided with the Jihadists.)
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To: LeoWindhorse
this is the guy that a 'hot mike' caught Mr. Bush saying to Mr. Chaney , before their first election , "this guy is a real a-hole from the New York Times" Or something to that effect.

No, that was Adam Clymer. But we could say that Hersh is a major league Clymer.

36 posted on 08/13/2006 3:01:28 AM PDT by HAL9000 (Happy 10th Anniversary FreeRepublic.com - Est. Sept. 23, 1996 - Thanks Jim!)
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To: HAL9000

oops ...sorry :^)


37 posted on 08/13/2006 3:02:42 AM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: HAL9000
" Citing an unnamed Middle East expert with knowledge of the current thinking of the Israeli and US governments,

Of course, the unamed "expert", who else? Prolly just some leftwing lunatic from DU

38 posted on 08/13/2006 3:22:15 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: HAL9000
The New Yorker - WATCHING LEBANON - Washington’s interests in Israel’s war by SEYMOUR M. HERSH
39 posted on 08/13/2006 3:25:46 AM PDT by HAL9000 (Happy 10th Anniversary FreeRepublic.com - Est. Sept. 23, 1996 - Thanks Jim!)
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To: onyx
I guess putting ( Seymour Hersh ) in parenthesis is a good enough substitution for a barf alert...lol.

LOL!

40 posted on 08/13/2006 3:53:11 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
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To: IrishRainy

By all appearances, he's a damned liberal, and liberals don't care one whit about this country.


41 posted on 08/13/2006 3:54:53 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

:)


42 posted on 08/13/2006 3:55:19 AM PDT by onyx (1 Billion Muslims -- "if" only 10% are radical, that's 100 Million who want to kill us.)
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To: HAL9000
"Citing an unnamed Middle East expert with knowledge of the current thinking of the Israeli and US governments…"
43 posted on 08/13/2006 3:55:22 AM PDT by elfman2 (An army of amateurs doing the media's job.)
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To: Nathan Zachary
Of course, the unamed "expert", who else? Prolly just some leftwing lunatic from DU

Or one of the voices in his head.

44 posted on 08/13/2006 3:56:14 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
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To: HAL9000

Hey, I've got a story for him. It looks like both Hezbollah and the Iraqi insurgents are bogged down in their fight against Israel and the Iraqi and US forces. It's a real quagmire for them. They don't seem to have any exit strategy. Their losses mount day by day. We haven't been allowed to see the funerals of the Hezbollah fighters, yadayadayada.


45 posted on 08/13/2006 3:56:51 AM PDT by finnsheep
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To: Fitzcarraldo

thanks for posting that pic - but is it just me or does it look like light beams are shooting out of his a$$ as he stands at that podium?

You can guess what I think comes out of his mouth...


46 posted on 08/13/2006 4:01:23 AM PDT by Dinah Lord (fighting the Islamic Jihad - one keystroke at a time...)
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To: HAL9000

Even if I didn't already know the reputation of this man, anyone who wins the Pulititzer Prize is suspect. That prize is simply a mechanism for liberal-left journalists to pat each other on the back.

The New Yorker is similarly completely partisan. Recall that they ran an article a few years ago attempting to exonerate the Rosenbergs. They never ran a retraction when the Venona files and other evidence from Soviet records became avialble, showing conclusively that the Rosenbergs were guilty. All through the Vietnam War, The New Yorker ran stories attacking US soldiers for atrocities, most of which were reported from biassed sources, or were fabricated.


47 posted on 08/13/2006 4:05:46 AM PDT by docbnj
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To: HAL9000
Hope it's true!

And Hersch can go fly a kite, he's a hatemongering troublemaker.

48 posted on 08/13/2006 4:35:33 AM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: Kakaze
"There is no way that (Defense Secretary Donald) Rumsfeld and Cheney will draw the right conclusion about this," "

"I'm pretty sure you don't have the war plan" - Rummy.

49 posted on 08/13/2006 5:19:24 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: D-fendr
Absurd. What, exactly, do the Israelis need from the US regarding Lebanon ?
50 posted on 08/13/2006 5:50:37 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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