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Israel-Hezbollah truce will strike blow to Syria, Iran [President Bush]
CanWest, National Post ^ | 13AUG06 | Allan Woods

Posted on 08/13/2006 2:44:35 PM PDT by familyop

WASHINGTON -- U.S. President George Bush said the United Nations resolution to halt the fighting between Israel and Lebanon will stop Hezbollah from acting as a "state within a state" and deal a severe blow to the efforts of Syria and Iran to exert influence in the Middle East.

In a statement released by the White House Saturday, Bush urged the international community to support the resolution, which could lead to a likely ceasefire on Monday, "and make every effort to bring lasting peace to the region."

Hezbollah leader Sheik Hassan Nasrallah said Saturday that his group will abide by the UN resolution so long as Israeli troops leave southern Lebanon.

"When the Israeli aggression stops then the reactions by the resistance will stop," he said.

Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert also signaled his country's intention to comply with the wishes of the international community in a telephone call with Bush on Friday, though that did not slow the pace of fighting.

The Lebanese cabinet, however, did meet and agree to support the resolution Saturday, something that the Israeli cabinet was expected to do on Sunday.

The resolution, passed by the UN Security Council on Friday night, will see Israel and Hezbollah pull out of southern Lebanon at the same time as Lebanese and UN troops move in to patrol the area and enforce the ceasefire.

"I would hope that within no more than a day or so that there would be a cessation of the hostilities on the ground," U.S. Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice said in an interview with Israeli television Saturday.

Bush said the resolution "aims to end Hezbollah's attacks on Israel and bring a halt to Israel's offensive military operations. It also calls for an embargo on the supply of arms to militias in Lebanon ... and for the disarming of Hezbollah and all other militia groups operating in Lebanon."

He added that the resolution is designed to stop Hezbollah from acting outside the reach of the Lebanese government "and put an end to Iran and Syria's efforts to hold the Lebanese people hostage to their own extremist agenda."

The president said "millions have suffered" as a result of this month-long "unwanted war."

The U.S. has been one of Israel's most strident backers throughout the month-long conflict in the Middle East. The Bush administration has been severely criticized for, among other things, shipping weapons to Israel during the fighting, but the president has defended the actions as a means of supporting the right of a democratic country to defend itself from terrorists.

He also linked Israel's fight against Hezbollah to the global war on terror in his weekly radio address, which focused on the arrest of two dozen people in and around London.

"The terrorists attempt to bring down airplanes full of innocent men, women and children. They kill civilians and American servicemen in Iraq and Afghanistan, and they deliberately hide behind civilians in Lebanon," Bush said. "They are seeking to spread their totalitarian ideology."

But that line of thinking has also earned the U.S. president new and additional critics, coming after his response to the London terror arrests.

Bush referred to "Islamic fascists" when talking about fundamentalist Muslims intent on attacking the U.S., and the comments have provoked anger and concern.

"Imagine calling people Muslim fascists?" asked Ramsey Clark, a former U.S. Attorney General under former president Lyndon Johnson, and a controversial political figure in America. "That's telling a million, a billion, a billion-and-a-half people around the world that you're a fascist. We insult all the other people around the world and we expect them to succumb to what we demand? They won't."

Speaking at a pro-Lebanon rally a stone's throw from the White House Saturday, attended by thousands, Khalid Chahhou, from North Carolina, said Bush's comments do not promote the U.S. government's fight against terrorism.

"All those people here are against terrorism and we are against fascism also, so to classify Muslims and fascists, that's unfair and unjust, and it doesn't make America in the eyes of many Muslims respectful," he said. "If Mr. Bush means by 'fascists' terrorism, then we are all against terrorism."


TOPICS: Anthrax Scare; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2006israelwar; appeasement; bush; ceasefire; department; diplomacy; geopolitics; hezbollah; israel; lebanon; nofoolhere; president; resolution; rice; secretary; state; un
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1 posted on 08/13/2006 2:44:37 PM PDT by familyop
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To: familyop

Sorry President Bush, not buying it.

No victory, no peace.

Only war deferred and more deadly when it starts again.


2 posted on 08/13/2006 2:48:48 PM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: familyop

Ramsey the Rotten needs to shut up.


3 posted on 08/13/2006 2:49:19 PM PDT by GeronL (http://www.mises.org/story/1975 <--no such thing as a fairtax)
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To: GeronL
Clark's a fascist.
4 posted on 08/13/2006 2:50:35 PM PDT by Paladin2 (If the political indictment's from Fitz, the jury always acquits.)
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To: familyop

it doesn't make America in the eyes of many Muslims respectful,"

No, the only thing that would do that would be to
accept Islam and institute Shari'a.

Islamic Fascists must die.


5 posted on 08/13/2006 2:51:39 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: familyop
"will stop Hezbollah from acting as a "state within a state"


6 posted on 08/13/2006 2:51:51 PM PDT by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
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To: familyop

What would "strike a blow" to Syria and Iran is killing all Hezzies first, then striking a more literal blow to Syria and Iran. Anything else is naive appeasement.


7 posted on 08/13/2006 2:51:54 PM PDT by bluefish (Holding out for a worth tagline......)
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To: Paladin2
Yes he is. Hez-Ebola is the fascist proxy.

I finally remembered my password.... haven't remembered since January to update by blog.

flogerloon.blogspot.com

8 posted on 08/13/2006 2:52:37 PM PDT by GeronL (http://www.mises.org/story/1975 <--no such thing as a fairtax)
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To: silverleaf
Right, I am sure Hezbollah is scared to death the Lebanon army is going to disarm them. Ain't going to happen. They are just postponing the fight for another day.
9 posted on 08/13/2006 2:52:52 PM PDT by Uncle Hal
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To: familyop

"Imagine calling people Muslim fascists?" asked Ramsey Clark............ "That's telling a million, a billion, a billion-and-a-half people around the world that you're a fascist."

Umm, no it isn't. Like, if I use the phrase "American sheep farmers", that doesn't imply that all Americans are sheep farmers. See how that works, Ramsey?


10 posted on 08/13/2006 2:53:18 PM PDT by Canard
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To: silverleaf

Israel's best asset... it's deterent capability has lost it's edge.
The way they conducted the war, will not impress Syria or Iran.
It will only embolden Israels' ememies.

Sorry President Bush. I ain't buying it either


11 posted on 08/13/2006 2:53:56 PM PDT by tennmountainman (o)
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To: silverleaf
"Imagine calling people Muslim fascists?" asked Ramsey Clark, a former U.S. Attorney General under former president Lyndon Johnson, and a controversial political figure in America.

This traitorous POS needs to crawl into his hole. This bast*rd along with Carter are reponsible for more US military deaths than anyone. I can't tell you how angry it makes me to have read that some MSM is quoting this sh*thead basta*d traitor. I'm tired of this...
12 posted on 08/13/2006 2:54:27 PM PDT by nikos1121 (Thank you again Jimmy Carter.)
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To: familyop
The IDF is holding and fortifying the high ground along the Litani River. Hezbollah is pinned down in their holes and surrounded. The Lebanese and UN will have to negotiate with Israel in order to come South.

Should be interesting.

13 posted on 08/13/2006 3:00:10 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (I'll have the duck with mango salsa.)
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To: silverleaf
By going through the U(seless)N(othing) the president has given both himself and Israel cover for what inevitably must follow when this cease fire falls apart.
14 posted on 08/13/2006 3:00:10 PM PDT by Eagles Talon IV
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To: Uncle Hal
Right, I am sure Hezbollah is scared to death the Lebanon army is going to disarm them. Ain't going to happen.

Israel agrees, Lebanon agrees, and Hezbollah disagrees with the cease fire terms--then the renewed war is on their shoulders. If Hezbollah should agree then they, as proxy, betray Iran and Syria and the Naz is a dead man.

The amazing thing is that the rest of the UNSC went along with this three way trap.

15 posted on 08/13/2006 3:00:29 PM PDT by Poincare
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To: silverleaf

It's an interesting situation with even more interesting possible future scenarios. The Democrat way of dealing with an inevitable world war is to wait until a larger attack against us occurs (or many attacks within a short duration), then to engage in high intensity conflict (as differentiated from our current tactics), which necessitates a large military draft for such emergency.

So we can do it the Republican way (which is not happening yet, given appeasements and delays for western European objections), or we can do it the Democrat way.


16 posted on 08/13/2006 3:02:40 PM PDT by familyop ("Either you're with us, or you're with the terrorists." --President Bush)
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To: familyop

bttt


17 posted on 08/13/2006 3:03:21 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand; but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: Poincare
then the renewed war is on their shoulders.

I thought hezbollah started it to begin with. How many times do we need them to start it?

18 posted on 08/13/2006 3:04:23 PM PDT by somemoreequalthanothers (All for the betterment of "the state", comrade)
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To: familyop

The strategery is that Iran and Syria will not allow Hizb'Allah to accede to the terms of the cease fire, in which Hizb'Allah must hand over its arms to the Lebanese army and there is to be an embargo of arms to Hizb'Allah. Therefore, Israel should be able to continue with its fight, inasmuch as Hizb'Allah will not accept the terms of the cease fire.

So far, the strategery appears to be working. The Lebanese cabinet, which was supposed to meet to decide on implementation plans, has postponed its Sunday meeting indefinitely, because Nasrallah has gone back on his pledge to observe the cease fire.

See http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/


19 posted on 08/13/2006 3:06:52 PM PDT by BusterBear
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To: familyop
We may like to see it that way but it doesn't matter what we think if the other side has a different thought process, culture or outlook. It needs to be explained to them in a manner that they understand. If they still live.
20 posted on 08/13/2006 3:07:41 PM PDT by Domangart (editor and publisher)
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To: familyop
...because UN resolutions have always worked in the past. (s)
21 posted on 08/13/2006 3:08:40 PM PDT by airborne (Fecal matter is en route to fan! Contact is imminent!)
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To: airborne

This whole line of BS is nothing but a sucker punch by the UN on Israel to give the Hizzies time to reload. Iran has some dirty tricks up its sleeve and this gives them free run to launch whatever it is.

We do not learn from previous lessons on history.


22 posted on 08/13/2006 3:13:48 PM PDT by Concho (IRS--Americas real terrorist organization.)
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To: somemoreequalthanothers

The world learns reeeeeeeaaaaaaaallllllly, reeeeeeeaaaaaaaallllllly, SLOWLY.

If it ever learns at all.

History proves it.

Another way of saying this is, how many chances does Israel give Hezbollah to prove AGAIN that they want to destroy Israel.


23 posted on 08/13/2006 3:14:59 PM PDT by txrangerette ("We are fighting al-Qaeda, NOT Aunt Sadie"...Dick Cheney commenting on the wiretaps!!)
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To: Mike Darancette
"The IDF is holding and fortifying the high ground along the Litani River. Hezbollah is pinned down in their holes and surrounded. The Lebanese and UN will have to negotiate with Israel in order to come South.

Should be interesting.
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Yes, there are about 30,000 IDF soldiers in Lebanon now. It's also interesting that so many Freepers seemed to buy into the "ceasefire" "news," blamed the people of Israel, and declared Israel the loser in its present battles against Iran and Syria by way of Lebanon.

We're all involved. If Israel gets beat up very much--especially with continuing blame from our herd for Israel's agreements coerced by our leaders--we'll become much more involved.

The longer we wait, the less likely Americans will be as hospitable with traitors in our midst as our ancestors were during and after WWII.
24 posted on 08/13/2006 3:16:19 PM PDT by familyop ("Either you're with us, or you're with the terrorists." --President Bush)
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To: BusterBear
Quite right, but, Hizbollah has a strategery too. They will let Israel take the area south of the Litani River, and will topple the Lebanese govt soon, creating an Islamo-nazi crescent from Iran through Syria and northern "Lebanon", (which will become Hizbo-lan). From there they can resupply at will and carry on against Israel.
25 posted on 08/13/2006 3:16:34 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Free Iran! WARNING! Forbidden Cartoon: .. . *-O(( :-{>. . . .)
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To: Concho
We do not learn from previous lessons on history.

Oh, but we do.

Just sometimes we learn the hard way.

26 posted on 08/13/2006 3:19:41 PM PDT by airborne (Fecal matter is en route to fan! Contact is imminent!)
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To: familyop

That's putting a happy face on it. What have Iran and Syria lost? Their client, Hezbollah, has just fought to a stalemate with Israel. Syria and Iran can now replenish the weapons that Hezbollah used up, and in fact improve on the Hezbollah arsenal. Unless there's a major change brought about in the area, we're looking at another conflict.


27 posted on 08/13/2006 3:20:17 PM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: SaxxonWoods

Good. Then Israel can take the wraps off and flatten Hezbollistan once and for all.


28 posted on 08/13/2006 3:22:26 PM PDT by BusterBear
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To: somemoreequalthanothers
I thought hezbollah started it to begin with. How many times do we need them to start it?

This time, if Nasrallah blows off the UN, Israel will have the implied approval of the UN. (They will choke on it, hah hah.)

29 posted on 08/13/2006 3:23:16 PM PDT by Poincare
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To: Poincare
I'm reminded of all the hoops President Bush jumped through before moving on Iraq.

He gets not one stitch of credit for that now, so why bother?

30 posted on 08/13/2006 3:27:54 PM PDT by somemoreequalthanothers (All for the betterment of "the state", comrade)
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To: BusterBear

"Good. Then Israel can take the wraps off and flatten Hezbollistan once and for all."


"Hezbollistan" meaning Syria and Iran also. Of course, we would be fine with that, too. Can't wait to hear the UN when THAT begins. It's gonna be veto time for Bolton and the USA.


31 posted on 08/13/2006 3:39:33 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Free Iran! WARNING! Forbidden Cartoon: .. . *-O(( :-{>. . . .)
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To: silverleaf

With all due respect president Bush... that's bullsh*t.


32 posted on 08/13/2006 3:40:20 PM PDT by johnny7 (“And what's Fonzie like? Come on Yolanda... what's Fonzie like?!”)
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To: familyop
That's telling a million, a billion, a billion-and-a-half people around the world that you're a fascist. We insult all the other people around the world and we expect them to succumb to what we demand? They won't

Then They die !!!

33 posted on 08/13/2006 3:44:57 PM PDT by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: familyop

This is NUTS!!


34 posted on 08/13/2006 3:45:58 PM PDT by veronica (New Literary and Arts Journal Offers FREE ADVERTISING! - FReepmail me for info...)
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To: somemoreequalthanothers

I don't care much about the UN actually, but watching Condi and Bolton work is much better than watching Powell and ??whoever it was.


35 posted on 08/13/2006 3:48:28 PM PDT by Poincare
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To: Poincare

I think it might have been Negroponte, but i'm not sure.


36 posted on 08/13/2006 3:50:37 PM PDT by AdvisorB (For a terrorist bodycount in hamistan, let the smoke clear then count the ears and divide by 2.)
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To: GeronL
What did Ramsey Clark ever do that would cause anyone to give a fig about what he thinks? His father was "somebody" and, as often is the case, he slid from something to nothing in a single generation. You see that from time to time, even among "them": "les inheritores socialistes."
37 posted on 08/13/2006 3:51:35 PM PDT by mathurine (ua)
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To: familyop
"Imagine calling people Muslim fascists?" asked Ramsey Clark

That's not what Bush said. Bush called them "Islamic fascists." If Ramsey Clark had any larnin' at all, he would know that Islamicist is a term used by some academics to refer to proponents of the most radical and violent branches of Islam. Or maybe Ramsey Clark does know that, and he is just assuming (like many liberals) that his audience is stupid.

38 posted on 08/13/2006 3:52:26 PM PDT by BusterBear
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Truce ? A TRUCE WITH WHO ? TERRORISTS?

Mr. President G-d bless you Sir, but do you really believe hizbollah is going to honour such a truce?

Mr.President you ask to make peace with kidnappers?

Good G-d this is dillusional thinking.

39 posted on 08/13/2006 3:54:36 PM PDT by mosquewatch.com ("The enemy is anyone who will get you killed, no matter what side they are on.")
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To: familyop

I can't believe Bush is this clueless.


40 posted on 08/13/2006 3:58:36 PM PDT by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get.)
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To: familyop
so to classify Muslims and fascists, that's unfair and unjust, and it doesn't make America in the eyes of many Muslims respectful,"

Is this man a fool? Muslims that strap bombs on themselves, dogs, children, hide chemicals in baby bottles, ARE ISLAMOFACIST-NAZI'S!!

And also ANY MUSLIMS that supports them. Those Muslims (which the world is still waiting to hear from) that don't support terrorists are fine.

41 posted on 08/13/2006 4:01:17 PM PDT by mosquewatch.com ("The enemy is anyone who will get you killed, no matter what side they are on.")
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To: Canard

Or like calling the people at this rally American scum sucking traitorous cowardly POS. It doesn't imply that all Americans are that way.


42 posted on 08/13/2006 4:11:29 PM PDT by stop_fascism
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To: mosquewatch.com

President Bush didn't ask for a truce. Get your facts straight.

He set the Hizb'allah (and Iran, and Syria) up like a row of dominoes, and Israel is about to knock it all down.

The President never expected them to honor the 'conditional cease-fire'. In fact, he depended on them not doing so.

He just explained the plan to the public, and yet many just don't 'get it'.

Many here on FR were criticizing Condoleeza Rice, but she doesn't do anything without it being directed by the President.

Remember, he fooled the Dems, the MSM, everyone that has tried to play him for a fool, and he just gave Iran, Syria, and the Hizb'allah some rope with which to hang themselves.

Never play poker with a Texan.


43 posted on 08/13/2006 4:14:02 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (PARTY LIKE IT's August 21, 2006 !!!)
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To: philetus

"I can't believe Bush is this clueless."

Kerry thought Bush was clueless.
The MSM thought Bush was clueless.
The Gov. of Louisiana thought Bush was clueless.
Mary Mapes and Dan Rather thought Bush was clueless.

When will they ever learn?


44 posted on 08/13/2006 4:17:15 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (PARTY LIKE IT's August 21, 2006 !!!)
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To: SaxxonWoods

Neither Hizbollah nor the Shiites will take control of Lebanon. The Lebanese Sunni, the Christian and the Druze hate the Shiites. They also hate the Iranian Pasdaran (Revolutionary Guard) that in 1982 created the Hizbollah and has funded it ever since. If the miserable Hizb could be crushed the Lebanese people could be about their business -- the business of making money.


45 posted on 08/13/2006 4:18:47 PM PDT by gaspar
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To: gaspar
Lebanese leaders call for unity [All of them support the terrorists. ...always have.]
CNN International ^ | 20JUL06 | CNN

Posted on 07/20/2006 12:48:50 AM PDT by familyop

"The ship is sinking and all of us, the Lebanese, should stick together and work together to stop the Israeli aggression," Amin Gemayel, a Maronite Christian who served as president from 1982 to 1988, told the Arabic-language TV station Al-Jazeera . . . Michel Aoun, a one-time commander in Lebanon's 15-year civil war who now serves in parliament, said . . . "I don't think that Israel has the capability to destroy Hezbollah militarily because Hezbollah is not a group of armed men," Aoun said. "Hezbollah is a major part of the Lebanese social fabric."

(Excerpt) Read more at edition.cnn.com ...

Lebanon says army ready to fight [The truth about Lebanon.]
Herald Sun (Australia) ^ | 22JUL06 | Herald Sun

Posted on 07/22/2006 2:26:48 AM PDT by familyop

"Any Lebanese citizens, Christians or Muslims, who want to defend their land are welcomed . . .'"
46 posted on 08/13/2006 4:35:09 PM PDT by familyop ("Either you're with us, or you're with the terrorists." --President Bush)
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To: airborne
We do not learn from previous lessons on history

But he is correct (unintentionally, of course), Democrats don't learn from experience.

47 posted on 08/13/2006 4:37:51 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s...you weren't really there.)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Democrats consider a loss a "moral victory"!

;^)


48 posted on 08/13/2006 4:39:39 PM PDT by airborne (Fecal matter is en route to fan! Contact is imminent!)
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To: airborne
Mmm, interesting conundrum. How does one with no morals define a "moral" victory?

In the case of the DIMs, it could also be stated as, "How does someone with no phallus define masculinity?"
49 posted on 08/13/2006 4:46:25 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s...you weren't really there.)
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To: familyop

So Ramsey Clark has jumped on the bandwagon by claiming that the phrase 'Islamic Fascist' means that all Islamics are fascists. So, I guess when the phrase 'strawberry ice cream' is used, it means that all ice cream is strawberry flavored. You'd think that someone as learned as he would have a better command of the English language.


50 posted on 08/13/2006 4:50:32 PM PDT by Real Cynic No More (A member of the Appalachian-American minority -- and proud of it!)
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