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Agents Arrest 3 Exchange Students In Des Moines
KCCI News Channel 8 ^

Posted on 08/13/2006 3:22:59 PM PDT by cornfedcowboy

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To: muawiyah

Are you sure you're not a Democrat? You seem to be trying to make these guys out to be innocent victims of their own ignorance...and you seem to be bending over backwards doing it. What is so hard about considering the possibility that these guys are part of a group that wants to do harm to Americans? You've managed to come up with more excuses for these guys than they have themselves.


101 posted on 08/13/2006 7:35:16 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway~~John Wayne)
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To: cornfedcowboy
"Did authorities visit with the parents of the missing students? If so, were they concerned that their child has dissappeared?"

Good question. Somehow I doubt we'll ever be privy to that info.

102 posted on 08/13/2006 7:36:42 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway~~John Wayne)
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To: mass55th
So far these guys have not come up with anything that you or I know about to defend themselves.

The fact the FBI is directing them to immigration court suggests that even the FBI doesn't see any problem other than playing games with their visas.

All I'm doing is dealing with the little evidence we have as carefully as I deal with the evidence in the allegations against our troops in Iraq.

Democrats are not at all careful about condemning innocent people to death so watch your mouth.

103 posted on 08/13/2006 7:41:09 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: KJC1

Remind me not to ask any of these guys the way to the pyramids.


104 posted on 08/13/2006 7:44:11 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway~~John Wayne)
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To: KJC1
"The fact that they're from Egypt doesn't mean squat as far as their ability to navigate or use maps or...ask people for help."

I totally agree. I took my first trip overseas this past May. I traveled to Belgium, Netherlands, France, and the UK. I'm a 59 year old female and traveled by myself. Before I went, I made sure I sat down and looked at maps and books, trying to familiarize myself where things were and how I had to get from point A to point B. I learned a long time ago, the only dumb question is the one you don't ask. I don't speak any other languages, and a lot of the people I dealt with were from countries other than the ones I was visiting, yet I never got lost and never had a problem communicating with anyone during the whole 33 days I was gone. If these guys are as stupid as we're being led to believe, they had no business being allowed to come here in the first place.

105 posted on 08/13/2006 7:52:04 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway~~John Wayne)
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To: muawiyah
"I'e already demonstrated that if they called the school phone number that they used in Egypt it wouldn't work."

You're assuming of course that the Montana School didn't provide them with any instructions or directions in Arabic when they signed up for the course. One would have to believe that the school sent instruction packets to each and every student before they left Egypt for Montana. Why couldn't the packet have been in the language of their country as well as English? And why wouldn't they have to possess some understanding of the English language in order to be enrolled in the English Language/History/Culture program to begin with? It was a month long program. You can't possibly teach someone to speak fluent English or learn the history and culture of this country in such a short time unless they have the ability to communicate at least a bit in English already.

106 posted on 08/13/2006 8:16:03 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway~~John Wayne)
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To: muawiyah
"We must not discount the possibility that these guys got cheated out of their plane tickets and money by unscrupulous cab drivers."

Well we know the guy who got bagged at O'Hare in Chicago didn't have his plane ticket scammed away from him. Somehow he managed to get himself to Chicago from New York. At O'Hare, he was trying to board a plane for Montana with a ticket that required his boarding in New York. For some reason after he heard they were looking for him, he decided he was going to head to Montana. Only problem was that he should have used the ticket in New York instead of taking the scenic route. No word as to how he managed to make it from JFK to O'Hare.

107 posted on 08/13/2006 8:22:04 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway~~John Wayne)
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To: muawiyah
"SImplify it a bit ~ kid asks Arabic speaking cab driver for help just outside International Arrivals building at JFK ~ cab driver cheats kid."

Obviously they're connecting flight to Montana was out of JFK, so why were they even out on the street looking for a cab? Try again.

108 posted on 08/13/2006 8:24:23 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway~~John Wayne)
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To: mass55th

Because the packet was in English? How's that one. Think about it. These guys were on their way to Montana for English enrichment. Must be a reason for that.


109 posted on 08/13/2006 8:25:17 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: mass55th
Friend of mine from Thailand used to sell Bibles door to door in Arkansas and Missouri. This was to finance his way through college.

He used to get rides all over the place from people who just wanted someone different to talk to.

110 posted on 08/13/2006 8:26:34 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: mass55th
None of the flights from JFK are nonstop to Bozeman. Most flights that connect to Bozeman leave from Newark or LaGuardia anyway.

Of interest I found many connecting flight go through Las Vegas.

Bozeman is not a really hot destination you know.

111 posted on 08/13/2006 8:34:11 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
"Because the packet was in English? How's that one. Think about it. These guys were on their way to Montana for English enrichment. Must be a reason for that."

You're assuming alot there. You have no idea whether the packet was in English ONLY, or that they had no knowledge of the English language at all. If they were coming here to learn the English language, why would a college send them packets in English ONLY and not provide appropriate instructions through an interpretor for them to follow? You're not a social worker are you?

112 posted on 08/13/2006 8:37:03 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway~~John Wayne)
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To: muawiyah
"He used to get rides all over the place from people who just wanted someone different to talk to."

Obviously he wouldn't have done that if he didn't speak English.

113 posted on 08/13/2006 8:39:36 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway~~John Wayne)
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To: mass55th
Social worker?

Look, it's pretty clear that even the FBI figured out what was happening right off the bat ~ which is pretty unusual for them.

114 posted on 08/13/2006 8:39:53 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: mass55th
That's how he learned to speak English. It wasn't his first, second or third language.

Like to buy a used car? Excellent way to learn English is to sell used cars. He also sold fleets for Toyota.

115 posted on 08/13/2006 8:41:00 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
For your theory to hold any water, Montana State must have started offering its classes in Arabic to cater to middle eastern illiterati. Otherwise, how does someone who doesn't speak English well enough to get unlost in an airport expect to pass a college class?

Muawiyah, I'm wondering if you're posting from CAIR-central.
116 posted on 08/13/2006 8:46:11 PM PDT by Old_Mil (http://www.constitutionparty.org - Forging a Rebirth of Freedom.)
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To: muawiyah

I don't think the FBI is revealing exactly what their doing. What they tell us may be quite different than what they believe. There might be more fish out there and these "students" are the bait.


117 posted on 08/13/2006 8:47:09 PM PDT by uptoolate (The U.N. will be the tool of the Anti-Christ)
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To: muawiyah
"None of the flights from JFK are nonstop to Bozeman."

I didn't say they were, but you still haven't told me how he managed to get from JFK to O'Hare in Chicago, then tried to board a flight to Bozeman with a ticket that was valid only from New York. He raised a ruckus at the ticket counter, raising his voice so much, that the police had to be called. No mention that language was a barrier during the heated exchange.

118 posted on 08/13/2006 8:49:23 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway~~John Wayne)
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To: uptoolate
"There might be more fish out there and these "students" are the bait."

Good point.

119 posted on 08/13/2006 8:50:51 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway~~John Wayne)
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To: muawiyah
"Look, it's pretty clear that even the FBI figured out what was happening right off the bat ~ which is pretty unusual for them."

Nothing is clear yet, especially with two of them still on the loose.

120 posted on 08/13/2006 8:52:40 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway~~John Wayne)
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