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Olmert acknowledges war's 'deficiencies'
AP on Yahoo ^ | 8/14/06 | AP

Posted on 08/14/2006 10:05:20 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

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1 posted on 08/14/2006 10:05:23 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

Bye Bye Olmert - there are always repercussions to giving away Israel's Land.


2 posted on 08/14/2006 10:09:06 AM PDT by richardtavor (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem in the name of the G-d of Jacob)
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Olmert = loser.


3 posted on 08/14/2006 10:15:13 AM PDT by sine_nomine (President Bush: Build that wall.)
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To: NormsRevenge
I don't understand why Olmert refused to allow the blitz of South Lebanon by the ground forces, which I understand was the contingency plan in place.

Reminds me of McNamara trying to fight Vietnam with "restraint."

4 posted on 08/14/2006 10:19:06 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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Meanwhile, Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said he took sole responsibility for the offensive, and acknowledged "deficiencies" in the way the war was conducted.

A person of character would not just mouth that empty phrase, but would resign from office and call for new elections. Don't hold your breath waiting for Foolmert to do this, mainly because he lacks the character on many levels.

Bye Bye Olmert - there are always repercussions to giving away Israel's Land.

I hope that such a repercussion occurs SOON. Israel needs a Churchill, not a Chamberlain as its leader. Actually, it needs a Joshua, but there have been precious few like him in history.

5 posted on 08/14/2006 10:21:17 AM PDT by Ancesthntr
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A person of character would put a 9 mm in his mouth and pull the trigger.


6 posted on 08/14/2006 10:32:34 AM PDT by stop_fascism
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I suspect there was some legitimate fear that Israel's casualties would be unacceptably high in such a scenario.


7 posted on 08/14/2006 10:42:03 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: colorado tanker
Reminds me of McNamara trying to fight Vietnam with "restraint."

This is why it is generally a Very Bad Idea to allow libs to conduct a war. War is not supposed to be a gentle thing - it is supposed to be violent and nasty, which is why sane and moral people and nations try to avoid them. But once the decision to fight is made, you have to be ruthless, to act as quickly and as violently as possible to win quickly, with as few casualties as possible. Liberals never have, and apparently never will, understand this. Gradually ramping up a war to "sent a signal" or to "be reasonable" does nothing but give the enemy time to dig in, to ramp up its own production, etc.

8 posted on 08/14/2006 10:57:02 AM PDT by Ancesthntr
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If the Israeli's are really thinking like that, they're doomed . They better pack their bags and move to Nevada.

The time to consider the casualties you're willing to take is before you start a war.

9 posted on 08/14/2006 10:57:22 AM PDT by stop_fascism
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A person of character would put a 9 mm in his mouth and pull the trigger.

Uh, maybe not. One should avoid comparisons with the last politician of note to do that. Only his political death is required.

10 posted on 08/14/2006 10:58:46 AM PDT by Ancesthntr
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I suspect there was some legitimate fear that Israel's casualties would be unacceptably high in such a scenario.

As opposed to what? The present situation, where over 100 Israelis have been killed, where the soldiers over whom this whole thing started are still held hostage, and where Israel's deterrent is destroyed, thereby making a future conflict nearly a guarantee?

Anyone with such poor judgment, who displays such naivete, has to be tossed from office.

11 posted on 08/14/2006 11:01:44 AM PDT by Ancesthntr
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To: sine_nomine

"Olmert = loser"

Definition:

Waging war as William Jefferson Blythe Clinton Would Do
Caputulating like Trent Lott Would Do.

WANTED: Strong decisive PM for Israel. Lawyers/Car Salesmen need not apply


12 posted on 08/14/2006 11:01:48 AM PDT by tennmountainman
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Giving him the Admiral Byng treatment would be a good object lesson for future PMs.


13 posted on 08/14/2006 11:02:34 AM PDT by stop_fascism
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That's not a commentary on Olmert's leadership. It's a limitation of Israel's political/economic reality.

When you've got all of northern Israel living in bomb shelters for weeks at a time and you've got a military force comprised largely of reserves like Israel does, any protracted military campaign of this kind basically results in a collapse of the nation's economy.

This is exactly what led Israel to withdraw from Lebanon in the first place a few years back, and it's the underlying impetus behind their decision to abandon Gaza and parts of the West Bank, too.

14 posted on 08/14/2006 11:14:54 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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"I suspect there was some legitimate fear that Israel's casualties would be unacceptably high in such a scenario."

That was it, plus the fact that what Israel always really wanted was for the UN to enforce 1559 or get a more beefed up international force. And that is what would be the best. Israel bombing the tar out of Lebanon is a bad thing for Israel and Lebanon. I hope Israel never has to raise a weapon against Lebanon again. I hope the ceasefire works. I hate to think of all this happening again. Why? It hurts everyone but Hezbollah.

I don't think the ceasefire is so terrible. On the contrary, it puts Hezbollah in the spot light if they attack Isreal again. It's like everyone thinks "Oh boy, Israel will kick the crap out of Hezbollah, no problem. Well it ain't that easy.

15 posted on 08/14/2006 11:17:13 AM PDT by Hound of the Baskervilles (A)
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"As opposed to what? The present situation, where over 100 Israelis have been killed, where the soldiers over whom this whole thing started are still held hostage, and where Israel's deterrent is destroyed, thereby making a future conflict nearly a guarantee?"

I am tired of this whining. Slap! Slap! Snap out of it!!!!!

16 posted on 08/14/2006 11:34:08 AM PDT by Hound of the Baskervilles (A)
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To: NormsRevenge

Olmert acknowledges war's 'deficiencies'

As opposed to his own?
17 posted on 08/14/2006 11:35:16 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Freedom isn't free, but the men and women of the military will pay most of your share)
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To: Hound of the Baskervilles
I am tired of this whining. Slap! Slap! Snap out of it!!!!!

Meaning what, exactly? Do you think that Israel has been successful in accomplishing its goals in this conflict? Do you think that Israel has more, or less, of the world's nations on its side now vs. on 7/11? Do Israel and the IDF have more, or less, ability to deter conflict now vs. on 7/11?

I look forward to your response.

18 posted on 08/14/2006 11:53:07 AM PDT by Ancesthntr
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To: Hound of the Baskervilles
what Israel always really wanted was for the UN to enforce 1559

And what I really want is for the UN to send me a couple million bucks. I'd say I have a better chance of my want becoming a reality than does Israel. The UN can be divided into three parts: 90% that would like Israel destroyed, 10% that doesn't give a flying ____ about Israel, and the US and Israel.

"Putting the spotlight on Hezbollah" is just what the hezbos want. You and I might think the light shines on blood thirsty thugs, but the Muslim world sees some really cool guys.

19 posted on 08/14/2006 12:04:22 PM PDT by stop_fascism
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To: Alberta's Child

You have a point. The Israelis elected Olmert, afterall. They knew what they were getting. Maybe this will wake them up. If not, the entire state of Israel will fit into Nevada without inconveniencing any Muslims.


20 posted on 08/14/2006 12:07:13 PM PDT by stop_fascism
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