Posted on 08/15/2006 7:52:05 AM PDT by Marius3188
Early Christians fighting pagan Rome.
They were stolen by the Irish.
Ping. You might find this interesting.
If that church dates to the 1st Century AD, then it was not originally a Christian church. It dates hundreds of years before the very first Christians showed up in those lands.
I suggest DNA testing of words around the world to determine where the missing Welsh vowels went.
For Welsh and biblical records, the academics say "This can't be true!"
But, most academics add another comment on the biblical records.
In private moments, they pray "This had better not be true!".
There's only one vowel in "DNA". Besides, the Welsh seem to make do with the "sometimes y and w" clause.
True, but it's just an abbreviation. "Deoxyribonucleic acid" has some to spare!
I was surprised too to read about 1st century Christians there. You think the article is just wrong?
I think the legend goes something like this...Joseph of Arimathea traveled to England after the Resurrection with the Holy Grail. This is where the origin of the Holy Grail lore comes from.
Here is an interesting read from http://britannia.com/history/biographies/joseph.html
Joseph of Arimathea was a wealthy disciple of Jesus, who, according to the book of Matthew 27:57-60, asked Pontius Pilate for permission to take Jesus' dead body in order to prepare it for burial. He also provided the tomb where the crucified Lord was laid until his Resurrection. Joseph is mentioned in a few times in parallel passages in Mark, Luke and John, but nothing further is heard about his later activities.
Apocryphal legend, however, supplies us with the rest of his story by claiming that Joseph accompanied the Apostle Philip, Lazarus, Mary Magdalene & others on a preaching mission to Gaul. Lazarus & Mary stayed in Marseilles, while the others travelled north. At the English Channel, St.Philip sent Joseph, with twelve disciples, to establish Christianity in the most far-flung corner of the Roman Empire: the Island of Britain. The year AD 63 is commonly given for this "event", with AD 37 sometimes being put forth as an alternative. It was said that Joseph achieved his wealth in the metals trade, and in the course of conducting his business, he probably became acquainted with Britain, at least the south-western parts of it. Cornwall was a chief mining district and well-known in the Roman empire for its tin. Somerset was reknowned for its high quality lead. Some have even said that Joseph was the uncle of the Virgin Mary and therefore of Jesus, and that he may have brought the young boy along on one of his business trips to the island. Hence the words of Blake's famous hymn, Jerusalem:
And did those feet, in ancient time, Walk upon England's mountains green?
It was only natural, then, that Joseph should have been chosen for the first mission to Britain, and appropriate that he should come first to Glastonbury, that gravitational center for legendary activity in the West Country. Local legend has it that Joseph sailed around Land's End and headed for his old lead mining haunts. Here his boat ran ashore in the Glastonbury Marshes and, together with his followers, he climbed a nearby hill to survey the surrounding land. Having brought with him a staff grown from Christ's Holy Crown of Thorns, he thrust it into the ground and announced that he and his twelve companions were "Weary All". The thorn staff immediately took miraculous root, and it can be seen there still on Wearyall Hill. Joseph met with the local ruler, Arviragus, and soon secured himself twelve hides of land at Glastonbury on which to build the first monastery in Britain. From here he became the country's evangelist.
Much more was added to Joseph's legend during the Middle Ages. He was gradually inflated into a major saint and cult hero, as well as the supposed ancestor of many British monarchs. He is said to have brought with him to Britain a cup, said to have been used at the Last Supper and also used to catch the blood dripping from Christ as he hung on the Cross. A variation of this story is that Joseph brought with him two cruets, one containing the blood and the other, the sweat of Christ. Either of these items are known as The Holy Grail, and were the object(s) of the quests of the Knights of King Arthur's Round Table. One legend goes on to suggest that Joseph hid the "Grail" in Chalice Well at Glastonbury for safe-keeping (Photo)
There is a wide variance of scholarly opinion on this subject, however, and a good deal of doubt exists as to whether Joseph ever came to Britain at all, for any purpose.
See my post #32
We have a similar problem in the United States. Although there were something like 30 permanent settlements on what is now the US East Coast by 1600, we only research and study the later English settlements at Plymouth and Jamestown.
This is the same brand you find associated with St. Patrick and the Irish monks of the early Middle Ages.
Thankfully it was a peaceful "snuffing" or we'd not know about it.
http://www.ensignmessage.com/archives/christianintro.html informs us that the records show (and the Welsh really do have some very old records) that Tiberius was still emperor when the first Christian missionaries reached Wales.
Pictured above, the clear outlines of the ancient "Hidden City" of Caer Caradoc, just north of Brynna, Glamorgan. A massive discovery using the lastest imaging via Google Earth. The Caer, or Fortress, is 2,000 year old.
I have actually been to that location, it is just a nice walk from Llanharan, and have seen the ruins of St Peter-super-Montem church. Vandals had exhumed graves that were under the stone floor of the building and there were bones strewn around. I hope that this amazing find will allow that relic to be properly preserved.
Dai must be thrilled. This was "his mountain" when he was a kid.
"The other word for the process is "the English Filter"
Excellent answer. Thanks.
Is this guy a historian or a marketing manager?
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