It's not a target pistol, but it's accurate enough. I can hold minute of paper plate at 7 yards, and much better closer. Weaighs about half a pound empty, 5" long at the slide, less than 3.5" tall and about 3/4" wide.
Works for me...
Posted on 08/15/2006 9:25:51 AM PDT by neverdem
When you consider that any sort of "domestic violence" (real or alleged) will end your license, and that divorce lawyers routinely advise women to allege domestic violence, I'm thinking that there's hardly any incidence of CCW holders committing real crimes
A Makarov type (PM-64, etc.) in .380 or original Soviet caliber (9x18?) is fairly compact, the weapon is surprisingly well made and you can find them on line for about $200 =/- $50.
I've have an Astra Constable, a CZ-50, a CZ-70, and a Yugo CZ MD 50 (not Czech even tho' it says CZ) and they were all pretty well made, pretty much all in .32 ACP. Almost forgot the little S&W/Walther P22.
I just liked the price and concealability of these weapons. I also have a Sig 230 in .380 and don't have any complaints about any of them. Recoil and concealment aren't big issues for me, I'm 6', 220 lbs.
Caliber is less important if you practice and can hit our aim point. I like to start at 25 yds and crank it in progressively closer until I'm firing from about 3 yds.
I like my 6" ss S@W 7 shot .357, blue 7" Ruger Black Hawk .44 mag and my 1911s too, but in South Florida they're a little hard to hide wearing a t-shirt and cargo shorts, LOL
Now if you want to talk some about long guns.....
I got my mom a .38 just because it was small and had an enclosed hammer (from Taurus) so it could be carried easier in a purse, but for real defense, I'd go for a 10mm, which is what I have.
I wanted to like the Hi-Point. But I have yet to see one that you weren't clearing failure to fire rounds too regularly for my idea of reliability.
I would go with a good, used S&W Model 64 or Ruger SP100 and carry .38+P before I'd go with a low end semi-auto. If you can find one at a good price, I'd go fixed sights, stainless and 3" barrel for concealed carry.
I've been sold on the subsonic 147 gr. JHP rounds. A lot of folks like the lighter, hotter rounds.
I know guys who have seen the elephant in real firefights who carry 9mm every day. They don't feel bad about it.
Rorbaugh-Nice gun, but if I'm gonna spend that much, I would prefer one of the mid line 1911 .45s and spend another 250.00 on a Kel-tec
Wow...Thank you!
It's not a target pistol, but it's accurate enough. I can hold minute of paper plate at 7 yards, and much better closer. Weaighs about half a pound empty, 5" long at the slide, less than 3.5" tall and about 3/4" wide.
Works for me...
BTW it's a Kel-Tec P3AT first Generation. Newer ones have an external extractor but the size is the same. Cost is about $250.00
I am not sure that a 9mm has enough stopping power.
Rorbaugh-Nice gun, but if I'm gonna spend that much, I would prefer one of the mid line 1911 .45s and spend another 250.00 on a Kel-tec.
Try Gangsta style...
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The early HiPoint pistols were not well made. The company has retooled and modified their materials/machining techniques. Their pistols and carbines have become very reliable. I would not buy a used one unless the serial number is checked to determine if they are not from the early years. I have many friends who own the new HiPoint pistols and put over 300 rounds thru them without any jams or stovepipes. After 500 rounds, it is recommended that the weapon be cleaned.
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