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Candidate Compares Gay Marriage To Bestiality
The Indy Channel ^ | August 16, 2006 | AP

Posted on 08/16/2006 9:50:04 AM PDT by Abathar

DENVER -- Democrats pounced on Colorado's Republican gubernatorial candidate Bob Beauprez and his newly chosen running mate Janet Rowland on Tuesday for comments she made five months ago comparing same-sex marriage to bestiality.

In a March 17 broadcast of the Rocky Mountain PBS program "Colorado State of Mind," Rowland said homosexuality is an alternative lifestyle, adding, "For some people, the alternative lifestyle is bestiality. Do we allow a man to marry a sheep?"

Democrat Bill Ritter's campaign called the remarks "insensitive, close-minded, derogatory and crude" and demanded an apology.

"This shows just how far to the right and out-of-touch the Beauprez-Rowland ticket really is," Ritter campaign manager Greg Kolomitz said.

Beauprez campaign manager John Marshall said Rowland regretted the remark and has apologized.

"We all say things we don't mean sometimes," he said. "That's what happened."

He said Beauprez continues to believe Rowland is a strong candidate but added, "Let me be clear. He doesn't agree with (the) comments and neither does she."

Marshall said Rowland had told campaign officials about the remarks before she was chosen as Beauprez's running mate, and they accepted her apology and statement of regret.

Rowland was campaigning Tuesday and was not available for further comment, Marshall said.

The tempest arose just one day after Beauprez announced that Rowland, a Mesa County commissioner, is his running mate in what is expected to be a tight race for the seat being given up by term-limited GOP Gov. Bill Owens. Beauprez praised Rowland's accomplishments, integrity and "real-world experience."

Rowland, 43, is a married mother of two children. In the broadcast, she stressed she does not hate gays.

"I have friends who are gay, I've worked with people who are gay, I have utmost respect for them," she said.

She said society must differentiate between what is acceptable as marriage and what is not.

"Some people have group sex. Should we allow two men and three women to marry? Should we allow polygamy, with one man and five wives?" she said.

She returned to the bestiality comparison at the end of the broadcast.

"And I know some of you are outraged that I would compare bestiality to this," she said. "Forty or 50 years ago, people would be outraged that we were talking about gay marriage."

Republican political analyst Katy Atkinson of Denver said it's difficult to measure what impact Rowland's comments will have on the race. She said it depends partly on whether key swing voters view Rowland's views as extreme.

"Coloradans tend to not like or vote for anybody who is an extremist," she said. "If that comment is used to portray her and Bob Beauprez as extremist, that's a problem."

Atkinson said Beauprez will fare best if he can regain the offensive in the campaign and shape the voters' impression of him.

"Bob Beauprez's secret weapon is Bob Beauprez," she said. "When he speaks to voters on television or radio, he seems like their favorite uncle, like every word he says is sincere and from the heart."

So far, she said, Ritter and his supporters have kept Beauprez on the defensive, and Rowland's comments only contribute to that.

"The challenge he has had all along -- it hasn't worked very well for him -- is to run the campaign on his terms, and he hasn't been able to do that," Atkinson said. "Now his campaign is having to react to these comments."

Rowland was a caseworker for the Mesa County Department of Human Services, investigating allegations of abuse and neglect for 10 years. Analysts said her choice by Beauprez was intended to assuage western Colorado voters angry over his support of projects they believed would shipped precious water to the Front Range.

Kolomitz and state Democratic Party Chairwoman Pat Waak compared Rowland to state Rep. Jim Welker, R-Loveland, who was widely criticized for forwarding e-mails that characterized black victims of Hurricane Katrina as lazy.

"Coloradans should not be surprised to see this type of mean-spirited extremism displayed by a high-profile Republican candidate," Waak said.


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""And I know some of you are outraged that I would compare bestiality to this," she said. "Forty or 50 years ago, people would be outraged that we were talking about gay marriage." "

How true, how true.

1 posted on 08/16/2006 9:50:06 AM PDT by Abathar
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To: Abathar

I like this Rowland chick. LOL


2 posted on 08/16/2006 9:51:09 AM PDT by pissant
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To: Abathar

There goes the sheep vote.


3 posted on 08/16/2006 9:51:17 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Peace begins in the womb.)
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To: Abathar
She had a valid question. I notice that no one answered her question. Instead, they attack her for asking it.

Clearly, homosexuals know that same gender sex is a perversion. They just play the victim to try to assuage their guilt.

4 posted on 08/16/2006 9:52:52 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Abathar

I just wish that it was Janet Rowland running for Governor instead of Bob Beauprez. She is much more true to her values.


5 posted on 08/16/2006 9:53:44 AM PDT by politicket
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To: Abathar

She never should have apologized; she had nothing to apologize for.


6 posted on 08/16/2006 9:54:02 AM PDT by murphE (These are days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed but his own. --G.K. Chesterton)
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To: murphE

Agreed. Apologizing for speaking the truth is harmful to moral progress.


7 posted on 08/16/2006 9:56:07 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy ( “I'm the Emperor, and I want dumplings!” (German: Ich bin der Kaiser und will Knödel.))
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To: Abathar
She's never held statewide office or been in the legislature, she's a county commissioner. She strikes me as out of her depth. But Bob is a Denver guy and he needed a women and a Westerner to balance the ticket.

He's got to start running his campaign and not reacting. Holtzman inflicted a lot of damage with this "Both Ways Bob" crap and the Dem 547 attack ads are starting.

8 posted on 08/16/2006 9:56:13 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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"For some people, the alternative lifestyle is bestiality. Do we allow a man to marry a sheep?"

Sounds fine to me....

9 posted on 08/16/2006 9:56:13 AM PDT by expatpat
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To: Abathar

As far as I am concerned it is.


10 posted on 08/16/2006 9:57:10 AM PDT by sport
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To: Abathar
What did she say that's wrong? Homosexuality is akin to bestiality. But to tell the truth in these times of moral relativism is enough to get you damned.

(No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo!)

11 posted on 08/16/2006 9:57:15 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: expatpat

I meant the question is a good one, not that marrying a sheep is fine........


12 posted on 08/16/2006 9:57:37 AM PDT by expatpat
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To: Abathar

The sex positive agenda (which uses the homosexual agenda as a battering ram to society's laws and morals) seeks to end ALL moral judgment over sexual pairings regardless of sex, age, relation, marital status, number, or species of partner(s).

We hear how the ancient Greeks have depicted homosexuality in their art and pottery. Same can be said of beastiality.


13 posted on 08/16/2006 9:57:58 AM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: Abathar
In a March 17 broadcast of the Rocky Mountain PBS program "Colorado State of Mind," Rowland said homosexuality is an alternative lifestyle, adding, "For some people, the alternative lifestyle is bestiality. Do we allow a man to marry a sheep?"

Democrat Bill Ritter's campaign called the remarks "insensitive, close-minded, derogatory and crude" and demanded an apology.

Of course they did. The truth is quite "insensitive" to any false illusions people might harbor for peace of mind.

She was absolutely correct in her comments. Give me the "insensitive" truth every time! Bravo!

14 posted on 08/16/2006 9:58:10 AM PDT by TChris (Banning DDT wasn't about birds. It was about power.)
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To: colorado tanker

I live in Colorado and it doesn't appear to me that Bob is running. It doesn't seem to be an election year since I don't see any signs or hear any ads. I don't tnink I'm living in a vacuum.


15 posted on 08/16/2006 9:58:23 AM PDT by art_rocks
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To: murphE

I agree.


16 posted on 08/16/2006 9:58:27 AM PDT by sport
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To: Abathar

Sounds about right to me.


17 posted on 08/16/2006 9:59:30 AM PDT by Antoninus (Public schools are the madrassas of the American Left. --Ann Coulter, Godless)
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To: Abathar

There are already people who will their estates away to their pets. This would just make their relationship more official.

Old cat women would be able to get coverage for their favorite pet under their company's insurance plan.

Just another alternative lifestyle.


18 posted on 08/16/2006 9:59:40 AM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: murphE
Agreed. The same people who applauded the gay cowboy movie are now saying doing it like sheep is outrageous. Well the act is almost the same, if you catch the drift.

(No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo!)

19 posted on 08/16/2006 9:59:51 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Jeff Chandler

I thought that was Montana where the movie "Broke**ck Mountain" was made.


20 posted on 08/16/2006 10:00:09 AM PDT by sport
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To: Abathar
The Dems out here think that her remark will really move the swing votes over to their side. I doubt it, though. People I've talked to about the comment just think it's shocking but really funny and true. They probably gained some Independents over this.
21 posted on 08/16/2006 10:00:21 AM PDT by Gingersnap
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To: Abathar

More stupid apologies.


22 posted on 08/16/2006 10:00:49 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: Abathar

More stupid apologies.


23 posted on 08/16/2006 10:00:49 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: Abathar
snip-"We all say things we don't mean sometimes," he said. "That's what happened."

This is the only offensive thing that has been said.

24 posted on 08/16/2006 10:02:01 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (More and more churches are nada scriptura.)
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To: Abathar

The type of rhetoric used by Janet Rowland is a good example of that commonly used by Phyllis Schlafly in her opposition to the Equal Rights Amendment (Which by the way, is a favorable comparison)

There are a lot of people who take a particular stand on things like the Equal Rights Amendment, and...hey...that sounds okay...I have no problem with that. Equal rights is a GOOD thing, right?

Then along comes Phyllis Schlafly, who asks the questions nobody wants to hear, or just hadn't thought of, as this woman Rowland did. It is not always comfortable to hear these things, but, then again...who wants to hear about the details of homosexual relationships, which are constantly foisted on us? I am sorry they think there is a problem with Bestiality, but as she said, 50 years ago, homosexuality was on par with bestiality in the minds of most normal people.


25 posted on 08/16/2006 10:02:17 AM PDT by rlmorel (Islamofacism: It is all fun and games until someone puts an eye out. Or chops off a head.)
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To: Abathar
Well, there went the votes of the two homosexuals who were going to vote Republican.

Look, the Republicans are never going to get the gay vote. Why can't these candidates speak their mind?

26 posted on 08/16/2006 10:02:41 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: Abathar

Fact is, when you express shock at the man-beast or father-daughter "relationship" you're making a moral judgment. So, if homosexuals can make such a judgment then we're free to make judgment against their particular, um, lifestyle.


27 posted on 08/16/2006 10:02:54 AM PDT by AmericanChef
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To: justshutupandtakeit

I am sick of gutless republicans apologizing for speaking their minds. Say it how you feel it and to hell with the whining wussies who cry about it. No wonder the world doesn't respectus, we cringe and cower in the face of being called insensitive.


28 posted on 08/16/2006 10:03:29 AM PDT by Idaho Whacko
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To: expatpat
"For some people, the alternative lifestyle is bestiality. Do we allow a man to marry a sheep?"

Sounds fine to me....

The article was noticably lacking a cogent rebuttal to her point.

29 posted on 08/16/2006 10:05:15 AM PDT by IamConservative (Humility is not thinking less of oneself; humility is thinking about oneself less.)
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To: Idaho Whacko
Homosexuality is an unnatural condition, depraved and a state of human sin. Now that's as politically incorrect as I can get.

(No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo!)

30 posted on 08/16/2006 10:05:57 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Abathar
>"Democrat Bill Ritter's campaign called the remarks "insensitive, close-minded, derogatory and crude" and demanded an apology."

Hey Bill,, I find the sodomites demands for normal people to accept their disgusting disease spreading practices offensive, close-minded derogatory and crude! Now apologize!

What you shove, & where you shove it... I dont care to know! It's not my business, I don't want or need to know! Go back in the closet!

You are NOT NORMAL! YOU ARE SICK! Stop spreading your disease!

31 posted on 08/16/2006 10:06:16 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (I'd rather be carrying a shotgun with Dick, than riding shotgun with a Kennedyl! *-0(:~{>)
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[ "For some people, the alternative lifestyle is bestiality. Do we allow a man to marry a sheep?" ]

Its about love... But some people love animals.. say dogs.. With some love and sex are two sides of the same coin.. This question should be shouted from the rooftops..

Is marriage all about KIDs or not?.. Some people love their automobiles..

32 posted on 08/16/2006 10:07:48 AM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole.)
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To: Abathar

Forgive me for my naivete on this subject... but wouldn't that thing they do with the gerbils count as bestiality?


33 posted on 08/16/2006 10:09:10 AM PDT by Kenton
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To: Abathar
"This shows just how far to the right and out-of-touch the Beauprez-Rowland ticket really is,"

No, the ones who are out of touch are the folks who are pretending that it's perfectly normal for men to diddle each other, and for women to ... well, never mind.

34 posted on 08/16/2006 10:09:35 AM PDT by IronJack (ALL)
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To: Abathar

Homosexuality is not akin to bestiality because the animal has no choice in the affair. Similarly, there is no slippery slope from legalizing gay marriage to legalizing sex with minors because minors are also perceived has not being able to make a concious choice in the matter. The only slipperly slope gay marriage might lead to is polygamy.


35 posted on 08/16/2006 10:09:44 AM PDT by psychoknk
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To: Idaho Whacko

She apologized for something she didn't even say which is even worse.


36 posted on 08/16/2006 10:09:58 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: Abathar

Amazing that people no longer think that gay marriage is absurd. It shows, as the gays themself point out, how the sexual revolution has devalued the sex act. Anything goes.


37 posted on 08/16/2006 10:10:03 AM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: Abathar

Here you go from more than six years ago ---

SHOULD A MAN BE ALLOWED TO MARRY HIS GOAT?

Culture/Society Opinion Keywords: WHY NOT A GOAT?
Source: DFU opinion
Published: 3-1-00 Author: Doug from Upland
Posted on 03/01/2000 22:18:11 PST by doug from upland

Sorry, although the title suggests that this is a humorous piece, it is not. Someday, there will be a demand by someone that the state officially recognize a marriage between he and his livestock.

In California voters will decide on March 7 whether the institution of marriage has meaning in the traditional sense. They will be voting on an initiative which is Proposition 22 on the ballot. This initiative statute would provide that only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California. Marriages performed in other states and countries would not be legal in California if they did not meet this criterion.

I suspect that as we grow older we tend to hold onto or honor those traditions that have had meaning in our lives. And we would hope that such traditions would have meaning and importance to others.

A man and woman marrying and raising their children has been proven for generation after generation after generation to be the best possible family structure for society. Twenty years ago, never could I have imagined that a proposition such as Proposition 22 would be necessary. It was just assumed that men would marry women, have children and carry on in the traditions that have proven best.

What is behind the proposition, of course, is more than just a question of whether homosexuals may marry and be officially recognized by the state. It is clearly an issue of states rights. Since California does not sanction marriage between other than a man and woman, should it be forced to do so if a couple marries in another state and comes to California?

Homosexuals may live with whom they wish. They may work where they wish although there certainly exists some discrimination in certain job areas. I personally would not want my son to be supervised by a gay scout leader. Homosexuals may own property together. Homosexuals may visit each other in the hospital. And homosexuals may will their property, real or personal, to their partner.

So what is it that they want? If homosexuals are officially recognized by the state as married couples, their union will be recognized as equal to that of heterosexual couples. The next step is clear. Homosexual couples would demand equality in the adoption of children. If their marriage was officially sanctioned and determined to be equal to any others' marriages, how could the argument be refuted?

Now back to my originial suggestion which at first looks preposterous. If two homosexuals can marry, why can't a brother and sister marry, particularly if one is sterile and no deformed children would result? Or, how about two men and a woman or two women and a man? How about a father and his daughter? Or, a father and his son? How about a man and his goat? If a man is in love with his goat, who is to say that such should not be sanctioned? It won't affect you and it won't affect me. If they are happy together, why not? It is not animal abuse. After all, you can kill a goat and eat it. Can someone stop you from having sex with it?

The attempted devaluation of marriage needs to stop now. Marriage is between a man and a woman. That does not need to be fixed. Gays may do what they like behind closed doors and spend their lives with their partners. If a man cannot legally marry another man, that is just too damned bad. If a man cannot marry his goat, that is just too damned bad.


38 posted on 08/16/2006 10:10:13 AM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: expatpat

Glad you cleared that up. The rumors were starting to spread...


39 posted on 08/16/2006 10:11:24 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Abathar

Stupid comment. Beauprez needs to win the rural vote to win. Fight bestiality AFTER the election.


40 posted on 08/16/2006 10:12:03 AM PDT by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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To: Abathar

No problem here!


41 posted on 08/16/2006 10:13:11 AM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: Abathar

Alternative lifestyle translates into anal sex for men with resulting hemorrhoids and cunnilingus with women resulting in herpes and bad breath. Humanity needs saving from its ownself. Good grief!


42 posted on 08/16/2006 10:13:37 AM PDT by lilylangtree
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To: Abathar
Democrats pounced on Colorado's Republican gubernatorial candidate

You know, considering the subject matter, another writer would have phrased that differently...

43 posted on 08/16/2006 10:13:46 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Abathar
Democrat Bill Ritter's campaign called the remarks "insensitive, close-minded, derogatory and crude" and demanded an apology.

Notice that Ritter called her comments everything but inaccurate and untrue. Oopsy! The dhimmie's Freudian slip is showing again.

44 posted on 08/16/2006 10:16:20 AM PDT by OB1kNOb (This is no time for bleeding hearts, pacifists, and appeasers to prevail in free world opinion.)
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To: art_rocks

I don't see it, either. I guess Bob's holding onto his cash and following the conventional wisdom that nobody pays attention to the race until after Labor Day.


45 posted on 08/16/2006 10:16:33 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: Izzy Dunne

Yeah, my favorite cow was starting to look at me sideways.


46 posted on 08/16/2006 10:17:26 AM PDT by expatpat
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To: Izzy Dunne
SHOULD A MAN BE ALLOWED TO MARRY HIS GOAT?
It's just a baaaaaa-d idea. Don't ewe think?
47 posted on 08/16/2006 10:17:49 AM PDT by xroadie
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To: Abathar

48 posted on 08/16/2006 10:21:11 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: doug from upland
If two homosexuals can marry, why can't a brother and sister marry, particularly if one is sterile and no deformed children would result?

See below for my response about a parent marrying his child. Siblings getting married may be a result of childhood abuse. As such, it is best to not allow that to prevent abuse.

Or, how about two men and a woman or two women and a man?

Not my thing, but I am not about to force my will on others.

How about a father and his daughter? Or, a father and his son?

This borders on sex with minors. A parent who marries his children may have abused them as children (i.e. raised the child to be his sex-slave). This hurts the child.

How about a man and his goat? If a man is in love with his goat, who is to say that such should not be sanctioned? It won't affect you and it won't affect me. If they are happy together, why not? It is not animal abuse. After all, you can kill a goat and eat it. Can someone stop you from having sex with it?

It is animal abuse. While it is legal to kill a goat, it is not legal to torture it. Since a goat can't provide consent to have sex, then a man marrying his goat is technically raping his goat every time he has sexual intercourse. Since sex is implied in marriage, then marriage between humans and animals should be illegal.

49 posted on 08/16/2006 10:22:10 AM PDT by psychoknk
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To: Abathar

I bet the followers of incest from Clinton's hometown felt left out. I weep for their omission.


50 posted on 08/16/2006 10:23:17 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot
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