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To: psychoknk

Oh, so you put the tradition of marriage in the same category as things determined later to be unjust, like slavery?

Dude, you are reaching. You don't throw the majority to the wolves for the benefit of the minority. I know liberals are oh-so-proud of what they are willing to sacrifice (or require others to sacrifice)for esoteric principles, but that is a suicidal tendency.

And yes, your argument was about protecting gay criminals.

Appeals to tradition are not a fallacy. Marriage has existed for a long time and has a long tradition, and most people feel strongly about it. Those who want to destroy tradition bear the burden of proving that it is unjust, and "feelings" have nothing to do with proof.

You and I both know that gays are pushing for marriage for validation. We (US society) have no obligation to validate what we consider wrong, and certainly not by damaging the institution of marriage any more than feminists and gays have already done.

Homosexuals are people unable to have normal relationships, by definition. Society is not required to bend over backwards for devients. The fact that we do so much of it now portends poorly for the survival of our nation.


117 posted on 08/17/2006 11:02:22 AM PDT by Idaho Whacko
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To: Idaho Whacko
You are the one who is reaching. You pose the same cirular argument over and over. Why is marriage between men and women? Because it is!

No, my argument was not about "protecting gay criminals." My argument was to point out that "a living will" will not give homosexuals "all the protection they need." In addition, it is troubling that you believe that the fifth ammendment exists solely to protect criminals.

I will acknowledge there are homosexuals who seek validation from the public. However, many others simply want the same protections as heterosexuals and don't give a damn whether they are accepted or not. Civil unions, etc. do not grant the same rights and protections as marriages. If marriage is granted more protections/rights, those will not necessarily trickle over to rights civil unions possess.

Allowing gays to get married does not damage marriage. How does homosexuals getting married affect your marriage? I am not throwing the "majority to the wolves for the benefit of the minority" for the very reason that I do not feel like my marriage would be cheapened by gays getting married, and I doubt that husbands will love their wives any less (and vice versa) if homosexuals can get married. I do not believe that marriage is unjust; I only believe that it is unjust to limit marriage to heterosexual couples.

118 posted on 08/17/2006 12:11:45 PM PDT by psychoknk
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