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To: operation clinton cleanup

When we took over Iraq we knew there was three major groups who did not like each other - Shiites, Sunni and Kurds. Kurds were our best friends, Shiites neutral but the Sunnis were the pricks. Since the Sunnis jointed Al Qaida to kill Americans at the beginning, we should have backed the Shiites in rounding up all the Sunni Baathists and had them all tried for war crimes and shot. The Sunnis only represent 20 percent of Iraq and the Shiites 60 percent. With US backing, it would be a one way civil war, and within one year, half the Sunnis would have fled to Syria or dead. We made a mistake by ignoring the brutal wisdoms of the past and tried to do it the idealistic American way. I think President Wilson learned a bitter lesson after World War I, the US ideals are unique and the rest of the world doesn't practice it. GWB is learning that now, and future American President are not going to risk their political careers trying to reform the world again.


14 posted on 08/19/2006 9:04:31 PM PDT by Fee (`+Great powers never let minor allies dictate who, where and when they must fight.)
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To: Fee

I agree with you 101%.


15 posted on 08/19/2006 9:10:04 PM PDT by operation clinton cleanup (Assistant to the traveling secretary.)
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To: Fee

Well said.


20 posted on 08/19/2006 10:02:42 PM PDT by Let's Roll ( "Congressmen who ... undermine the military ... should be arrested, exiled or hanged" - A. Lincoln)
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To: Fee
Disagree 100%. It was, and is, time for a culture change in the ME. What Wilson "learned" was that you can't artificially create nations where none existed---exactly the opposite of how we should have handled post-Soviet Yugo, where they did have a mix of peoples and it "worked" somewhat under Tito.

But regardless, we cannot go on in the ME with dictatorships that are either a) beholden to or b) terrified of these mullahs. Democracy can work, and when people get a taste of freedom, they will start to fight for it.

Even with all of western civ behind us, and some 500 years of increasing democratic traditions, it still took us four years, several rebellions, and then, eventually, a civil war to straighten things out. I don't know why people think that an even more diverse people can pull it together quicker. I think the Iraqis are doing ok, all things considered.

23 posted on 08/20/2006 5:18:21 AM PDT by LS
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