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Brooke Gunning: The Japanese atomic bomb
Examiner.com ^ | August 11, 2006 | Brooke Gunning

Posted on 08/22/2006 1:06:56 AM PDT by Cementjungle

Brooke Gunning, The Examiner
Aug 11, 2006 2:00 AM

BALTIMORE - Baltimore’s Pledge of Resistance Wednesday commemorated the anniversaries of the two atomic bombings of Hiroshima (Aug. 6, 1945) and Nagasaki (Aug. 9, 1945), as it has for the last 22 years.

Among the participants were survivors of the Nagasaki blast, who attested to the horrors experienced.

They serve as an important reminder of how the innocent always pay the penalty in war.

The tensions in the Middle East and North Korea, as well as the distinct possibility of a nuclear attack on our own soil underscore the terrifying legacy bequeathed by those who brought warfare to its deadliest level.

But the horror of the blasts must not overshadow the reasons why the U.S. government chose to drop the bombs — some of which have been obscured by time and propaganda.

Let’s look at some of the reasons:

Perhaps the main reason the United States dropped the first atomic bomb on Hiroshima was that we were millions of lives and several years into a global war, instigated in part by the Japanese. They were the aggressors.

By Aug. 6, fellow Axis powers, Germany and Italy, had long since surrendered.

The Japanese High Command, however, refused to surrender, dragging death and destruction in its diabolical wake.

Members advised their people to commit suicide, rather than surrender.

They sent their kamikazes (not all of whom were willing) to certain death after a special ceremony and kudos from their supposedly divine Emperor.

Blinded by nationalism and pride, they intended to fight to the bitter end.

The Japanese still held onto some hope, including the pending arrival of U-234 from Germany.

This special U-boat departed German waters in March 1945 holding a top secret cargo — uranium and heavy water for the Japanese atomic weapons project.

Also on board were key personnel and technology to help the Japanese Empire launch an atomic bomb on San Francisco by a target date of Aug. 17, 1945.

After Germany’s surrender on May 9, German Admiral Karl Doenitz ordered all submarines to surrender.

The commanding officer, Klt. Johann Heinrich Fehler, ironically nicknamed “Dynamite,” opted to surrender to the Americans.

The Japanese passengers aboard immediately committed suicide and were buried at sea.

The ship surrendered to the U.S.S. Sutton on May 14, with an assist by Coast Guard Cutter Forsyth.

It arrived in Portsmouth, N.H., several days later. Some of the passengers went to work for our government.

And many historians believe the government used the uranium for our atomic weapons program.

At first the Japanese High Command could not believe that its precious cargo would not arrive in time for the attack date of August 17.

U-234 crew members believed that there was enough uranium for two atomic bombs — destined to destroy two American cities and untold American lives.

It is certain that had the Japanese possessed a bomb, that they would have used it on us.

At the time of the seizure of the U-234, we did not know if another U-boat carrying a similar load had successfully made the trip to Japan.

We did not know how much time we had, but we knew it was not long.

I, for one, am grateful that if such a ferocious weapon by necessity was unleashed, that it was upon the country that was the aggressor, not ours.

I am grateful that it spared many American lives — both of our troops in the Pacific, as well as our innocent civilians on the West Coast. War is hell, but it is not an altogether unexpected one for the aggressor.Brooke Gunning is the author of several regional best-sellers, including “Maryland Thoroughbred Racing,” “Baltimore’s Halcyon Days” and “Towson and the Villages of Ruxton and Lutherville.” She currently is at work on her next book.


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1 posted on 08/22/2006 1:06:56 AM PDT by Cementjungle
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ping for future.
2 posted on 08/22/2006 1:14:25 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( http://www.answersingenesis.org)
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To: Cementjungle

Never heard that story quite like that before.


3 posted on 08/22/2006 1:14:35 AM PDT by DB (©)
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To: DB
Never heard that story quite like that before.

Which part do you mean?

4 posted on 08/22/2006 1:16:45 AM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: Cementjungle

well my information is that the Japs already had a working reactor up and running somewhere on the Korean peninsula running under the direction of one Dr. Suzuki...and the plan called for them to hide their bomb on board a scuttled Japanese warship on the southern coast and to detonate it while the US 7th Fleet was anchored there and while troop landings were in progress.....


5 posted on 08/22/2006 1:23:23 AM PDT by Armigerous ( Non permitte illegitimi te carborundum- "Don't let the bastards grind you down")
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To: Armigerous
well my information is that the Japs already had a working reactor up and running somewhere on the Korean peninsula running under the direction of one Dr. Suzuki...and the plan called for them to hide their bomb on board a scuttled Japanese warship on the southern coast and to detonate it while the US 7th Fleet was anchored there and while troop landings were in progress.....

Maybe earlier shipments had already made it through to Japan?

6 posted on 08/22/2006 1:29:40 AM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: Cementjungle

That the Japanese actually had a date for a nuclear attack.

I knew there was a German sub planning on delivering heavy water but not substantial quantities of weapons grade uranium.

I question whether that is true.


7 posted on 08/22/2006 1:35:56 AM PDT by DB (©)
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To: DB
"On 16 April, 1945 she left Norway and was enroute to Japan with extremely important cargo (drawings, a Me-262 jet fighter in crates and 550kg of uranium ore, several high ranking German experts on various technologies and 2 Japanese officers) when Kptlt. Fehler, after hearing the cease-fire orders on May 4, 1945, decided to head for the USA and surrender.
Per tradition the Japanese men took their own life via sleeping pills rather than being captured." LINK
8 posted on 08/22/2006 1:44:53 AM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: Cementjungle

...that is my understanding


9 posted on 08/22/2006 1:50:12 AM PDT by Armigerous ( Non permitte illegitimi te carborundum- "Don't let the bastards grind you down")
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To: DB
The History Channel had this all. They added that the capture of the German submarine was even in the papers, but the Japanese high command thought it was misinformation. Until the surrender they were still waiting for the sub and it's cargo to arrive.

They had a plan to use the radioactive material for a dirty bomb attack on San Francisco, using their I-400 class submarine-aircraft carriers. I think the projected date was sometime in Sept 1945.
10 posted on 08/22/2006 1:59:05 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (The man who said "there's no such thing as a stupid question" has never talked to Helen Thomas.)
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To: Armigerous; Cementjungle

What were the places where uranium was mined back then? For example, the United Kingdom mined their uranium from Canada. Did the Japanese have to get the uranium from Germany?


11 posted on 08/22/2006 1:59:35 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( http://www.answersingenesis.org)
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To: Armigerous; Cementjungle

What were the places where uranium was mined back then? For example, the United Kingdom mined their uranium from Canada. Did the Japanese have to get the uranium from the Nazis?


12 posted on 08/22/2006 1:59:37 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( http://www.answersingenesis.org)
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To: Cementjungle
And let's not forget the Japanese were testing biological and chemical warfare against US prisoners of war.

The Japs were prepared to use atomic, chemical, biological, suicide attacks and God knows what else...

They were just begging for us to drop two atomic bombs on their cities that were converted from civilian urban centers to vast war machine factories where people even made military parts in their homes that would be collected by wagons for assembly at the plants.
13 posted on 08/22/2006 2:03:18 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (ETERNAL SHAME on the Treasonous and Immoral Democrats!)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Japs Japanese....

Bad connotations.

14 posted on 08/22/2006 2:11:45 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( http://www.answersingenesis.org)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

I prefer to leave it in the full context, thank you...

"The Japs were prepared to use atomic, chemical, biological, suicide attacks and God knows what else..."


15 posted on 08/22/2006 2:13:33 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (ETERNAL SHAME on the Treasonous and Immoral Democrats!)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

I believe they got there uranium from pitchblende ore mined in Czechoslovakia or one of their captive countries....could be wrong about it being Czech....


16 posted on 08/22/2006 2:15:48 AM PDT by Armigerous ( Non permitte illegitimi te carborundum- "Don't let the bastards grind you down")
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To: Cementjungle

PC apologists won't like this article.


17 posted on 08/22/2006 2:16:52 AM PDT by hershey
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
The German uranium originally came from the exact same place ours did, Katanga a province of the Belgian Congo. Large quantities of uranium from the Congo were shipped to Belgium and were captured by the Germans when they overran it in 1940. In 1945 the Soviets found a great quantity of this remaining Belgium uranium hidden in Berlin and shipped it back to Russia. In 1945 and after, most Eastern block uranium was mined in East Germany.

We also got ours for the Manhattan Project from the same mines.
18 posted on 08/22/2006 2:26:49 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (The man who said "there's no such thing as a stupid question" has never talked to Helen Thomas.)
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To: Armigerous

For the information on where World War 2 Japan got its uranium, much appreciated.


19 posted on 08/22/2006 2:27:48 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( http://www.answersingenesis.org)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult
See comment 19.

Odd that the United States would get its ore from Africa when it was being mined in Canada.

20 posted on 08/22/2006 2:30:08 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( http://www.answersingenesis.org)
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To: Cementjungle
Uranium ore is a long ways from weapons grade uranium.

Especially in 1945.

It is a long, long way from an August 17th, 1945 nuclear detonation in San Francisco.
21 posted on 08/22/2006 2:39:02 AM PDT by DB (©)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

"In 1922, the UMHK built its first refinery for uranium ore, and by 1926 had a virtual monopoly of the world uranium market (holding most of the deposits known at the time), to be broken only by the German invasion of 1940."

Union Minière du Haut Katanga
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_Mini%C3%A8re_du_Haut_Katanga


22 posted on 08/22/2006 2:41:56 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (The man who said "there's no such thing as a stupid question" has never talked to Helen Thomas.)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

.....well it's the mere fact that Japan actually had a nuclear program under develpment that I found so intriuging....to me that alone justfies our nuking them twice.....that and the fact that my father was on Okinawa at the time with the USN and they were planning the eventual occupation of Japan subsequent to what surely would have been massive casualties on both sides


23 posted on 08/22/2006 2:42:31 AM PDT by Armigerous ( Non permitte illegitimi te carborundum- "Don't let the bastards grind you down")
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To: Cementjungle
From The Last Great Victory: The End of World War Ii, July-August 1945, by Stanley Weintraub.

It was the afternoon of August 5, 1945. To a group of six hundred army officers assigned to the Hiroshima garrison, Professor Yoshitaka Mimura of Hiroshima Bunri University, a theoretical physicist, was explaining the scientific possibilities of new weapons which might reverse the tide of war. Japan had little Navy or Air Force left. Within months a massive invasion of the home islands seemed likely. “Could you tell us, sir”, a young lieutenant colonel asked, “what an atomic bomb is? Is there any possibility that the bomb will be deployed by the end of this war?”

Mimura chalked a rough sketch on the blackboard to illustrate the [nuclear] reactions required. Scientists at Tokyo University, he explained, have “theoretically penetrated” the secrets of nuclear fission. If they could apply their theories practically, an atomic bomb “could be smaller than a piece of caramel candy, but, if exploded five hundred meters above a populated city, it could destroy 200,000 lives.”

“When can we have that bomb?” “Well, it is difficult to say”, Mimura answered, knowing nothing of any Japanese enterprise to apply fission theory to bomb-making. “But I can tell you this much: not before the end of this war.”

Neither the Germans nor the Japanese were in a position to build or deliver an atom bomb in 1945. This is Hooey. The Germans were delivering uranium to the Japs, perhaps they intended to build a dirty bomb.

There was a reactor in Berlin in 1945 and the Japanese understood the principles, but they were years away from building a weapon.

24 posted on 08/22/2006 2:53:46 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (NYT Headline: 'Protocols of the Learned Elders of CBS: Fake But Accurate, Experts Say.')
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

According to the book "Manhattan Project" by Stephane Groueff, some (if not all) of the uranium for the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombs was mined in Colorado and was actually a by-product of an existing Union Carbide vanadium mining operation. At the time, uranium had little commercial value, and they were trying to figure out something to do with it. The problem was solved in 1942 when the government purchased 80,000 lbs of uranium oxide from Union Carbide.


25 posted on 08/22/2006 3:05:49 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Democrats are guilty of whatever they scream the loudest about.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
It was claimed that the plans for the projected San Francisco dirty bomb attack were intercepted by our intel and given to President Truman. The information was said to have influenced his decision on dropping the bomb.

Chemical and biological attacks on the US were planned with the I-400 class subs as the delivery system, but the subs were held back waiting for the the higher priority dirty bombs to be built with the German uranium that never came.
26 posted on 08/22/2006 3:09:11 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (The man who said "there's no such thing as a stupid question" has never talked to Helen Thomas.)
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To: Cementjungle
U-234? Some people have no sense of occasion.
27 posted on 08/22/2006 4:01:15 AM PDT by Grut
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To: Cementjungle

Blinded by nationalism and pride, they intended to fight to the bitter end.


Undoubtedly, the same would hold true if America were in the same situation. At least for half of us.


28 posted on 08/22/2006 5:24:32 AM PDT by wolfcreek (You can spit in our tacos and you can rape our dogs but, you can't take away our freedom!)
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To: Cementjungle

There were no Japaneese innocents.
They were prepared to die for their motherland. That would have cost hundreds of thousands of American soldiers lives.
And the lot of them that died weren't worth one additional American soldiers life.


29 posted on 08/22/2006 5:45:48 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (an enemy of islam)
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To: Cementjungle
Wow! I could swear I was reading a summary of the latest "Dirk Pitt" novel from what's-his-name...

Maybe not.

30 posted on 08/22/2006 6:00:30 AM PDT by China Clipper
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To: wolfcreek
Funny you should mention at - Yamamoto was asked if an invasion of the US was possible. His answer was no - the American citizens were too heavily armed, the Americans would have destroyed his army on landing.

As a Naval attache (1925 to 1928) he had traveled in the US and knew that an armed society could not be conquered...
31 posted on 08/22/2006 10:24:00 AM PDT by ASOC (The phrase "What if" or "If only" are for children.)
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