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Lawmaker helped brother's lobby clients (Chris Cannon)
Associated Press ^ | August 17, 2006 | Ted Bridis

Posted on 08/22/2006 7:16:36 AM PDT by EternalVigilance

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To: EternalVigilance
But, I could easily understand how an underfinanced startup grassroots org, especially one that is enjoying a measure of success, could have a hard time meeting deadlines.

Isn't that why Simcox brought in the alleged "professionals?" Now, if those "professionals" have problems meeting those requirements, despite charging various service fees for allegedly doing so, that's another problem.

141 posted on 08/23/2006 4:52:33 AM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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To: bmwcyle; Spiff
Office in Government = $

Indeed. And Cannon is one of the worst. That's one of the reasons I never liked him, even before I watched him arrogantly sell out our national sovereignty and borders in recent years, and saw his gross hypocrisy on the immigration issue during the recent primary. Those who didn't know better could have sworn he was Tom Tancredo, when he's really more like John McCain on steroids.

142 posted on 08/23/2006 5:44:33 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: BigSkyFreeper
You knew what you were doing when you posted this article on the guy that beat your guy Jacob. The fact you're involved in some idiotic and childish little tap dance around the truth when the same questions arise over organizations or individuals you're connected at the hip with, makes you the obvious hypocrite in this thread.

Hey dude. Jacob wasn't "my guy". He could have been, but didn't have the brains or the guts to earn that support. Throughout the primary, he ran away from most conservative issues like a scalded cat. Neither he nor his campaign manager had the courage (or probably the conviction) to campaign as a conservative in one of the most conservative districts in America.

So, my advice to Dr. Keyes was to NOT officially endorse the man...which he didn't. (*Honest FReepers can check on my veracity by googling the news articles about Alan's visit to Utah just before the primary...that reporting makes it clear that there was no endorsement.)

Of course, on a personal level, I still wanted Cannon to lose. His crass arrogant advocacy for open borders alone earned him that defeat, completely aside from his personal corruption (a corruption that every conservative I know in Utah and in Washington agrees exists).

Jacob, for all his faults, would have been a step up...heck, the belly of a snake would be a "step up" from Cannon. Oh well...

143 posted on 08/23/2006 6:04:14 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: Howlin; Registered
Well, TOM, I see we're now on a first name basis. Careful; if the lurkers find out your whole name, they might just see that we've been telling the truth about you.

What, by reading the silly trash on your favorite antifreeper sites? LOL...I'm so scared! LOL...

Sorry Howlin. Honest folks can go back and see that I "first-named" him only after he did it to me. That was kind of the point...a point that you intentionally overlook, unsurprisingly.

144 posted on 08/23/2006 6:09:40 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance
What, by reading the silly trash on your favorite antifreeper sites?

I just got 13,600 hits on YOUR real name; and there aren't any in the first 100 from CP.

145 posted on 08/23/2006 7:42:04 AM PDT by Howlin (Pres.Bush ought to be ashamed of himself for allowing foreign countries right on our borders!!~~Zook)
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To: EternalVigilance
Of course, on a personal level, I still wanted Cannon to lose. His crass arrogant advocacy for open borders alone earned him that defeat, completely aside from his personal corruption (a corruption that every conservative I know in Utah and in Washington agrees exists). Jacob, for all his faults, would have been a step up...heck, the belly of a snake would be a "step up" from Cannon. Oh well...

Hear, hear!

146 posted on 08/23/2006 9:53:49 AM PDT by Spiff (Death before Dhimmitude)
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To: EternalVigilance
LOL...what are you going to do, take away my voter registration card?

Why bother? You probably have more than one.

147 posted on 08/23/2006 9:55:18 AM PDT by Dont Mention the War (This tagline is false.)
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To: Dont Mention the War

LOL


148 posted on 08/23/2006 10:09:36 AM PDT by Registered
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To: MineralMan
I made the serious mistake of donating to an organization connected with Alan Keyes. It was his Declaration Foundation, which I understand from Free Republic threads is associated with Simcox. From that single donation, I have received over 20 requests for additional donations from organizations I have never heard of before. Apparently, the Declaration Foundation has as its principal goal selling my name and address to as many other organizations as possible.

Have you ever donated to a Republican candidate for office? The exact same thing happens.

149 posted on 08/23/2006 11:15:20 AM PDT by jmc813 (.)(.)
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To: Rex Anderson
How dare you call anyone a RINO, you phoney.

You were just shilling for the pro-abortion gun-grabber Rudy yesterday. You ARE a RINO.

150 posted on 08/23/2006 11:17:46 AM PDT by jmc813 (.)(.)
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To: Howlin
I'd like to see a show of hands of those here who were surprised that EV is for unlimited political donations.........LOL.

Ummm, you're not a supporter of Campaign Finance Reform, are you?

151 posted on 08/23/2006 11:19:38 AM PDT by jmc813 (.)(.)
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To: Howlin
"Transparency" would be informing people who donate to your web site that you intend to sell their names to pay your house payment.

Are you denying that the GOP sells donor lists?

152 posted on 08/23/2006 11:22:22 AM PDT by jmc813 (.)(.)
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To: Torie
To be fair, is it standard operating procedure for "non profits" to request extensions, the way many for profit privately held corporations do, and many individuals with complex returns, or is it not?

It's absolutely SOP and anything but illegal. There are about 10 or so liberal to moderate freepers who have turned this into a big whacko conspiracy theory.

153 posted on 08/23/2006 11:27:53 AM PDT by jmc813 (.)(.)
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To: jmc813

"Have you ever donated to a Republican candidate for office? The exact same thing happens."

Yes, it does, but that is a candidate, not a PAC or PAC-like organization.

You try it. Donate to the Declaration Association or the Declaration Foundation. Use a unique way of writing your address. You won't believe who sends you requests for donations. I know I didn't.

Donations to candidates or to political parties go to a specific purpose, that of getting a candidate elected. Where did the money sent to Simcox go? Do you know? I sure can't find that information.


154 posted on 08/23/2006 12:19:36 PM PDT by MineralMan (Non-evangelical Atheist)
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To: MineralMan
"Have you ever donated to a Republican candidate for office? The exact same thing happens."

Yes, it does, but that is a candidate, not a PAC or PAC-like organization.

What difference does it make? Selling and swapping donor lists happens all over the place. It just so happens that several of the folks feigning rigeous indignation over this are big-time GOP cheerleaders.

Donations to candidates or to political parties go to a specific purpose, that of getting a candidate elected. Where did the money sent to Simcox go? Do you know? I sure can't find that information.

In November we will know, otherwise Simcox is going to be in trouble. In the meantime, drawing conclusions with the lack of information we have now is utter conspiracy theory kookery.

155 posted on 08/23/2006 12:59:35 PM PDT by jmc813 (.)(.)
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To: jmc813

"It just so happens that several of the folks feigning rigeous indignation over this are big-time GOP cheerleaders.
"

Indeed. Most members of Free Republic are Republicans, and support GOP candidates. Just a small minority of FReepers are from other parties.

Like most Republicans, we support GOP candidates. The alternative is the election of Democrats. Third party supporters harm the cause of conservatism by helping Democrats gain office.

So, yes, we donate to the GOP and to its candidates. I used to donate to other conservative organizations, but no more. The failure of so many of these to report their expenditures and receipts alarms me.

From what I can gather, there is something of a cabal of small "conservative" organizations, which do little more than collect contributions, yet never spend much on anything other than themselves.

I will never again donate to any non-profit organization which misses filing deadlines. I've learned through experience.

Like some phony televangelists, many so-called "conservative" organizations are doing little but lining their own pockets. No thank you very much.

I think you'll find that most members here at Free Republic are Republicans. You may not be. And there it is.


156 posted on 08/23/2006 1:43:07 PM PDT by MineralMan (Non-evangelical Atheist)
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To: MineralMan
I think you'll find that most members here at Free Republic are Republicans. You may not be. And there it is.

There is a big difference between being a Republican and being a party-first GOP cheerleader.

157 posted on 08/23/2006 1:58:36 PM PDT by jmc813 (.)(.)
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To: jmc813

"There is a big difference between being a Republican and being a party-first GOP cheerleader."

Which is Keyes? Which is Simcox? For that matter, which are you?


158 posted on 08/23/2006 2:02:08 PM PDT by MineralMan (Non-evangelical Atheist)
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To: MineralMan

He's a cricket. LOL.


159 posted on 08/23/2006 6:33:06 PM PDT by Registered
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To: jmc813
You were just shilling for the pro-abortion gun-grabber Rudy yesterday.

Are you high? I am pro life and pro 2nd Amendment. And before last night, I haven't posted since August 11th.

Your Rudy hatred isn't healthy, dude.

160 posted on 08/23/2006 7:47:58 PM PDT by Rex Anderson
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