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VMX-22 puts M-240 to test on ‘Osprey’
Marine Corps News ^ | Aug. 22, 2006 | Lance Cpl. Samuel D. White

Posted on 08/22/2006 2:12:37 PM PDT by Yo-Yo

MARINE CORPS AIR STATION NEW RIVER, N.C.(Aug. 22, 2006) -- Throughout the past two weeks, Marine Tiltrotor Test and Evaluation Squadron 22 has been testing the use of the M-240 as the primary offensive and defensive weapon of the MV-22 “Osprey,” an aircraft which has had no such capabilities up until now.

“Along with the ITV (Internally Transportable Vehicle) testing, VMX-22 has been validating the weapons system that we’re going to send out to the fleet when the ‘Osprey’ goes operational,” said Maj. Raymond M. White, VMX-22 director of safety and standardization.

There have been concerns of how and where the Marines were going to mount any type of weapon on the “Osprey” in the past, but over the past few weeks, those worries have been put at ease.

“There are unique challenges with the ‘Osprey’ and attaching a gun to it, because it’s not a CH-53 or a CH-46 and it has different fields of fire,” said White. “This new weapon is a pretty good solution and has thus far proved itself capable.”

Not only has it proved itself capable on the firing ranges at MCAS Cherry Point, but also with the veteran crew chiefs, like Staff Sgt. Theodore K. Mahiai, who were assigned to validate the M-240.

Mahiai, a former CH-46E “Sea Knight” crew chief and one of the first to fire from the “Osprey,” said there are still some small “kinks” to work out, but for the most part believes the new, rear-mounted weapons system will get the job done.

“The MV-22B is the wave of the future and by attaching the M-240 we’ll have one more way of doing our part to support the ground units,” said Mahiai.

By validating the rear-mounted weapons system, the “Osprey” takes one giant stride forward toward deployment in late 2007.

“This is a big step forward because until now we haven’t had a weapon on the aircraft,” said White. “It is something the ‘Osprey’ needs because without it, lives of Marines are put in jeopardy.”


TOPICS: Government; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: marines; mv22; osprey; v22
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Staff Sgt. Theodore K. Mahiai, a VMX-22 crew chief and one of the first to fire the “Osprey’s” new, rear-mounted M-240 weapon system, scans the area for possible targets during a flight Aug. 15. Photo by: Lance Cpl. Samuel D. White

1 posted on 08/22/2006 2:12:38 PM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: Yo-Yo

Hopefully they'll have something mounted in the front as well.


2 posted on 08/22/2006 2:16:38 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: Yo-Yo

One M240 pointing rearward, and that's it?


3 posted on 08/22/2006 2:17:28 PM PDT by Sax (You Done Tore Out My Heart And Stomped That Sucker Flat)
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To: Sax

And it can't rotate while descending.


4 posted on 08/22/2006 2:18:21 PM PDT by JustRight
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To: Sax

It does not need as much as you think. You have to remember that employment of the V-22 will be in concert with other Close Air Support vehicles. RAREly will it go in alone.


5 posted on 08/22/2006 2:23:38 PM PDT by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
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To: Sax
One M240 pointing rearward, and that's it?

I have no earthly idea where else they could put 'em. Waist guns would have a very limited sweep due to the big, varialbe props and nacelles. No clearance for a belly turret or chin-mount.

6 posted on 08/22/2006 2:26:03 PM PDT by AngryJawa ({NRA}{IDPA})
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To: Yo-Yo

All I can imagine is an RPG taking out one of the rotors...the result would be a bad scene me thinks...


7 posted on 08/22/2006 2:26:23 PM PDT by sit-rep (http://trulineint.com/latestposts.asp)
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To: GSlob
There has been talks of putting on a chin mounted gun ala the Apache, but so far nothing has been done yet. There is concern that when in hover close to the ground, spent shell casings could be blown up and sucked into the engine.

A side door gun was nixed because there is this huge engine nacelle in the field of fire...

8 posted on 08/22/2006 2:30:27 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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To: Yo-Yo


Easy...vacuum bag the spent shells.


9 posted on 08/22/2006 2:32:11 PM PDT by in hoc signo vinces ("Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis. American gals are worth fighting for!")
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To: AngryJawa

I would think maybe a retractable pod swinging out underneath from the rear door, maybe remote targeting,
laser designated from cockpit?

A fixed mini gun in the nose wouldn't hurt.


10 posted on 08/22/2006 2:35:01 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: AngryJawa

Heh...they need a ball-turret in the belly!


11 posted on 08/22/2006 2:35:12 PM PDT by Gator101
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To: Yo-Yo

Manufacturer: Fabrique Nationale Manufacturing, Inc.
Length: 47.5 inches (120.65 centimeters)
Weight: 24.2 pounds (10.99 kilograms)
Bore diameter: 7.62mm (.308 inches)
Maximum effective range: 1.1 miles (1.8 kilometers) on tripod mount
Maximum range: 2.31 miles (3.725 kilometers)
Rates of fire:
Cyclic: 650-950 rounds per minute
Rapid: 200 rounds per minute
Sustained: 100 rounds per minute
Unit Replacement Cost: $6,600

I think I'd like something a bit heaver

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12 posted on 08/22/2006 2:35:33 PM PDT by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: ICE-FLYER
You have to remember that employment of the V-22 will be in concert with other Close Air Support vehicles. RAREly will it go in alone.

But the HMMWV turned into a battle-taxi.

13 posted on 08/22/2006 2:36:36 PM PDT by Spirochete
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To: Robe
I fully agree! Door guns are primarily for suppressing fire. Let the bad guys KNOW they're being shot at by using a minigun instead of this thing.
14 posted on 08/22/2006 2:37:52 PM PDT by Gator101
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To: Sax
One M240 pointing rearward, and that's it?

Kinda like the ol' F-4 DAYS...

Any rear firing weapon.....
Itsa sure-fire MIG killer!!

15 posted on 08/22/2006 2:39:50 PM PDT by Wings-n-Wind (All of the answers remain available; Wisdom is gained by asking the right questions!)
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To: Robe

Did you mean to say FREE TO GOOD HOME?


16 posted on 08/22/2006 2:42:57 PM PDT by Pontiac (All are worthy of freedom, none are incapable.)
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To: Yo-Yo

H&K GMG would be better... 40mmx53 Grenade Machine Gun... OUCH!


17 posted on 08/22/2006 2:44:10 PM PDT by MD_Willington_1976
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To: Yo-Yo
M240 Medium Machine Gun

The Egress Package contains a buttstock assembly, a buffer assembly, a bipod assembly, and a conventional trigger assembly. The M240D is issued for aircraft configuration. The barrel assembly contains a three position gas plug. The first gas plug position allows the weapon to cycle at 750 shots-per-minute (SPM). The two remaining ports increase the SPM by 100 each (I.E., gas port position 2 = 850 SPM; gas port position 3 = 950 SPM). The aircraft configured M240D weighs 25.6 lb. and is 42.3 inches long. The egress configuration weighs 26.2 lb. and is 49.0 inches long.

yitbos

18 posted on 08/22/2006 2:49:39 PM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds. " - Ayn Rand)
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To: All

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/v-22.htm


19 posted on 08/22/2006 2:52:04 PM PDT by MrKatykelly
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To: Robe

I'd tend to prefer a mini-gun as well. I'd actually like one on each side, plus maybe one on the nose


20 posted on 08/22/2006 2:55:43 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (A planned society is most appealing to those with the arrogance to think they will be the planners)
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