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Harris, Crist lead the field in Republican straw poll
St. Petersburg Times ^ | August 23, 2006 | WILL VAN SANT and RICK DANIELSON

Posted on 08/23/2006 5:35:49 AM PDT by Happy Valley Dude

Pinellas County's Republican Party held a straw poll for the Sept. 5 primary at their Victory 2006 picnic Sunday. Looks like the local GOP, at least, is with Katherine Harris. Here are the results:

U.S. Senate: Katherine Harris, 121; Leroy Collins, Jr., 56; Peter Monroe, 32; Will McBride, 24

U.S Rep. District 9: Gus Bilirakis, 219; David Langheier, 7

Governor: Charlie Crist, 201; Tom Gallagher, 31; Vernon Palmer, 1

CFO: Tom Lee, 115; Randy Johnson, 110; Milt Bauguess, 2

State Senate District 16: Kim Berfield, 132; Frank Farkas, 85

House District 48: Peter Nehr, 93; Ken Peluso, 54; Brian Flaherty, 45; Robin Borland, 14

House 50: Nancy Riley, 151; Ed Hooper, 56

House 51: Bruce Cotton, 118; Dottie Reeder, 90

House 54: Rod Jones, 87; Jim Frishe, 83; Mike Petruccelli, 37; David Vecchio, 4


TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: charliecrist; katherineharris; tomgallagher
Looks like yet another victory for Crist.
1 posted on 08/23/2006 5:35:51 AM PDT by Happy Valley Dude
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To: Joe Brower

*ping*


2 posted on 08/23/2006 5:37:44 AM PDT by tiredoflaundry (Praying for Israel)
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To: Happy Valley Dude

Someone needs to post a picture of Katherine on her horse.


3 posted on 08/23/2006 5:39:57 AM PDT by Senator Goldwater
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To: Happy Valley Dude

I suspect these straw polls are more to keep people from the primaries.

EVERYONE GO AND VOTE IN THE PRIMARY REGARDLESS OF WHO YOU SUPPORT.


4 posted on 08/23/2006 5:40:40 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Happy Valley Dude

If Monroe & McBride would get out, Collins could win.


5 posted on 08/23/2006 5:52:54 AM PDT by aynrandfreak (The Left hates America)
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To: aynrandfreak

My thoughts also, and wouldn't that be grand? GO COLLINS! http://www.leroycollins.org/


6 posted on 08/23/2006 6:06:46 AM PDT by Sherri
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To: longtermmemmory
I suspect these straw polls are more to keep people from the primaries.

Or paerhaps they are simply meant to gauge how much support each candidate has among party activists.
7 posted on 08/23/2006 6:26:36 AM PDT by Happy Valley Dude
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To: JulieRNR21; kinganamort; katherineisgreat; floriduh voter; summer; Goldwater Girl; windchime; ...
Florida Freeper


8 posted on 08/23/2006 6:43:32 AM PDT by Joe Brower (The Constitution defines Conservatism. *NRA*)
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To: Senator Goldwater
Until that happens, this will have to suffice:


9 posted on 08/23/2006 6:48:00 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Leroy Collins and Bill Nelson are both pro-abortion rights candidates)
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To: NautiNurse

$:-)
10 posted on 08/23/2006 7:02:13 AM PDT by Joe Brower (The Constitution defines Conservatism. *NRA*)
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To: Happy Valley Dude

11 posted on 08/23/2006 7:18:24 AM PDT by Dominick ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." - JP II)
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To: longtermmemmory

These straw polls are exactly for that purpose. All primary polls in general, are very unreliable. No one saw janet Reno losing the nomination in 02. Her ideological twin Charlie Crist may well lose in similar fashion. Rank and file Republicans, the kind that actually vote, are fed up with Crist, especially after last night.


12 posted on 08/23/2006 9:51:10 AM PDT by GOPsupporterFL
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To: Happy Valley Dude
Pinellas County's Republican Party held a straw poll for the Sept. 5 primary...

Isn't Crist from that side of the state? The news would be if he LOST that straw poll. :)

13 posted on 08/23/2006 12:41:30 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of "dependence on government"!)
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To: GOPsupporterFL
No one saw janet Reno losing the nomination in 02.

Actually, polls showed Reno and McBride in a dead heat about a week before the primary:

New polls show Janet Reno in virtual dead heat in Florida Democratic gubernatorial primary with Bill McBride; her large lead over McBride at start of summer has melted away as he gained support among party establishment, won key endorsements and ran effective advertising campaign; she began limited ad drive only last week

http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=FA0C10F93A5B0C718CDDA00894DA404482&n=Top%2fReference%2fTimes%20Topics%2fPeople%2fM%2fMcBride%2c%20Bill
14 posted on 08/23/2006 1:00:10 PM PDT by Happy Valley Dude
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To: Happy Valley Dude
Harris seems to be in good shape to win the primary per this poll.
15 posted on 08/24/2006 8:00:07 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Recovering_Democrat
Isn't Crist from that side of the state? The news would be if he LOST that straw poll. :)

Gallagher is from Southeast Florida. The Broward County GOP endorsed Crist.
16 posted on 08/25/2006 4:38:36 AM PDT by Happy Valley Dude
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To: Happy Valley Dude; floriduh voter; All

The Broward GOP have some strong conservatives, who voted to support Gallagher, but the majority of active members are fairly liberal. That said, if they'd seen Crist in the debate with his: I'm pro-life which is why I want to keep the law the same. - and - I'm a "conservative" which is why I support civil unions. If they knew that he's for gay adoption when thousands of normal parents are on waiting lists they wouldn't have endorsed him. Many of his supporters are sick of him after finding all this out and rightly so.

Aside from being a liberal he's also a liar. His proposal of $5,000 a year per adopted child is something he knows would never pass, nor does he have any intention of proposing it. But that together with his support of the school size ammendment (a piece of legislation that would only make teachers lazier and does nothing to even encourage better teaching standards) are just small examples of his fiscal recklessness. The state is in trouble if this lying, deceiving, liberal jerk (he is not a nice guy) gets in.



17 posted on 08/25/2006 5:16:59 AM PDT by GOPsupporterFL (Charlie Crist: is saying "I'm a conservative. That's why I support civil unions." VOTE GALLAGHER!)
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To: Happy Valley Dude

I stand corrected on Reno, though my recollection is that most polls had her ahead. However, I'll go with your link.

Let's just say that the same is happening with Gallagher. Even the local papers say the race is expected to be much tighter than last month's polls.

People have now looked at the two and know who the only one of them is that will stand up for conservative causes.


18 posted on 08/25/2006 5:21:14 AM PDT by GOPsupporterFL (Charlie Crist: is saying "I'm a conservative. That's why I support civil unions." VOTE GALLAGHER!)
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To: Torie
Harris seems to be in good shape to win the primary per this poll.

Unfortunately every single poll also shows her losing by a landslide in November.
19 posted on 08/25/2006 5:46:24 AM PDT by Happy Valley Dude
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To: GOPsupporterFL
If they knew that he's for gay adoption when thousands of normal parents are on waiting lists they wouldn't have endorsed him.

Except that he is opposed to gay adoption.

On the social front, they both said they oppose gay adoption and same-sex marriage.

http://www.sptimes.com/2006/08/24/Columns/Pow_Bam_Debates_spiri.shtml

If you had watched the debate the other night, you would have heard Crist state that he beleives that adoption should be by one man and one woman.
20 posted on 08/25/2006 5:53:02 AM PDT by Happy Valley Dude
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To: GOPsupporterFL
LOOK WHO CONDUCTED THE STRAW POLL. THE PINELLAS REPUBLICAN PARTY. They are as unreliable as the mainstream media. They are all LIBERAL-RINOS. Many of Pinellas GOP bosses are under investigation. They are shady characters.

PINELLAS COUNTY = RINOVILLE. No one can believe a word the Pinellas GOP says.

Did they call the 59,000 voters who chose Jan Govan instead of J. Greer? Those are 59,000 votes for Tom Gallagher.

Beware of people running for office or what they are pedding from PINELLAS COUNTY.

If you've been paying attention, this is worse than former Mayor Daley's machine in Chicago.

And, then there's this. www.xenu.net

Crist is fond of them.

21 posted on 08/25/2006 6:13:43 AM PDT by floriduh voter (TOM GALLAGHER IS THE ONLY CONSERVATIVE FOR GUV www.tg2006.com)
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To: Happy Valley Dude; T'wit; amdgmary; Lesforlife; Sun; BykrBayb; supercat; 8mmMauser; Joe Brower; ...
HVD, Do you know who usually holds the annual Victory Picnics? None other than State Attorney Bernie McCabe and he's in charge of all statewide coverups. He's under scrutiny right now himself.

The Victory Picnic? LOL LOL LOL

This was a PICNIC. The poll was UNSCIENTIFIC and they are using the media to make it look legit.

A VICTORY PICNIC by Bernie McCabe is like an autopsy without an objective Medical Examiner.

DON'T FALL FOR THIS PICNIC POLL. It is a shipment of manure.

Judge Greer was at the Victory Picnic in 2004 and that violated ANOTHER judicial canon. He was not supposed to be there at all. It's a sham event.

All the other judges who arrived when they realized the Victory Picnic was a fundraiser they said "I'm outta here" and didn't even cross the threshold to enter.

Judge Greer doesn't abide by Judicial Canons and somebody saw him inside AT A FUNDRAISER.

The Victory Picnics are for the Pinellas Good Old Boys. The Pinellas GOP is an anomaly and they get away with all kinds of questionable activities.

bb, please roll the illegal bean footage over here from 8-14-2004.

BERNIE MCABE ILLEGAL CAMPAIGNING. SHERIFF RICE ILLEGAL CAMPAIGNING AND THEY AUTHORIZED IT. Thanks.

If you're not from Pinellas County, I give you fair warning. They are always up to no good!

The 2004 Victory Picnic was analyzed before and after. It was a FUNDRAISER for their picks.

The Pinellas GOP in concert with Charlie Crist is FEEDING THE LIBERAL MEDIA baloney.

23 posted on 08/25/2006 6:36:09 AM PDT by floriduh voter (TOM GALLAGHER IS THE ONLY CONSERVATIVE FOR GUV www.tg2006.com)
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To: Recovering_Democrat; MinuteGal
This straw poll is from a sorry picnic by one of Crist's cronies. It is unscientific, it was a fundraiser and they fed it to the LIBERAL MEDIA in the hopes that undecideds would stay home, vote for Crist or leave Gallagher's campaign.

This poll is a RUSE.

Please tell your friends and family that this is a dirty trick to hurt Tom Gallagher. Tom Gallagher is doing well.

The NEXT DEBATE IS MONDAY, AUGUST 28th at 8:00 pm est on statewide NBC STATIONS. Go, Tom!

24 posted on 08/25/2006 6:39:21 AM PDT by floriduh voter (TOM GALLAGHER IS THE ONLY CONSERVATIVE FOR GUV www.tg2006.com)
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To: Joe Brower
When you only poll a picnic that is packed with your supporters, what are you gonna get?

Answer: An unscientific poll as scientific as hogwash that was floated to the St. Pete Times owned by the New York Times).

How many media ploys do the Pinellas good old boys have up their sleeves?

25 posted on 08/25/2006 6:54:30 AM PDT by floriduh voter (TOM GALLAGHER IS THE ONLY CONSERVATIVE FOR GUV www.tg2006.com)
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To: NautiNurse

bttt. More media hype to drum up business for poor Charlie.


26 posted on 08/25/2006 6:55:25 AM PDT by floriduh voter (TOM GALLAGHER IS THE ONLY CONSERVATIVE FOR GUV www.tg2006.com)
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To: GOPsupporterFL
Not that it means anything but I think I have a jpeg of Crist posing with Janet Reno at the keynote speech where Crist said that Judge Greer and Judge Whittemore were his heroes for killing Terri Schiavo.

(Crist's loose lips sink ships.)

He sticks his foot in his mouth quite often. I'm hoping he'll do it again at the next televised debate.

27 posted on 08/25/2006 6:57:24 AM PDT by floriduh voter (TOM GALLAGHER IS THE ONLY CONSERVATIVE FOR GUV www.tg2006.com)
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To: Happy Valley Dude

County GOP's have executive committees. That's usually three people who do the endorsing. They don't speak for their constituents. They speak for three people, themselves. They are LIBERALS.


28 posted on 08/25/2006 6:58:56 AM PDT by floriduh voter (TOM GALLAGHER IS THE ONLY CONSERVATIVE FOR GUV www.tg2006.com)
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To: GOPsupporterFL
RE: TOM GALLAGHER

QUESTION: Why do you want to be governor?

TOM GALLAGHER: I have a lot of experience in our state. And this state has certainly been the state of opportunity for me. I came down to go to the University of Miami and afterwards I went to New York and worked and spent my time in the military

... And so I came down and went into business down there with a friend of mine and then started my own business. And so, Florida’s really been the state of opportunity for me personally and with well over a thousand a people a day moving in, it’s been the state of opportunity for a lot of people.

And I’m blessed to have seven-year-old and I want to make sure that this state is the state of opportunity when he’s out to get to get his first job, and for his kids, too.

We’re at a place now that it’s extremely important on how we move this state forward – whether we continue what I think is a fantastic job that Jeb Bush has done in regards to education and our economy and so many areas and our state’s fiscal strength that I’m concerned about how we continue moving forward and I want to make sure we move in the right direction.

Tom Gallagher for Governor visit http://www.tg2006.com.

*****TO JOIN TOM GALLAGHER PING LIST: contact "davidosborne".

29 posted on 08/25/2006 7:10:12 AM PDT by floriduh voter (TOM GALLAGHER IS THE ONLY CONSERVATIVE FOR GUV www.tg2006.com)
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To: floriduh voter
DON'T FALL FOR THIS PICNIC POLL.

You may be correct. After all, it isn't scientific. Perhaps we should look at some polls that were conducted scientifically:

Crist        50%
Gallagher 26%

http://www.sptimes.com/2006/08/12/State/Crist_likely_to_coast.shtml
30 posted on 08/25/2006 7:19:34 AM PDT by Happy Valley Dude
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To: Happy Valley Dude; floriduh voter
Are we going to be treated to a "straw poll" for Crist after every political picnic in the state? If so, we better brace ourselves for the onslaught of meaningless local mini-polls after the Labor Day weekend.

There's nothing wrong with polling legitimate polls from legitimate pollsters. It's a waste of bandwidth to be posting goofy polls from handfuls of people at a picnic, fundraiser or beer blast.

This post is nothing more than an immature political vanity.

Leni

31 posted on 08/25/2006 7:25:37 AM PDT by MinuteGal (Israel, Hold Firm !................No Retreat means No Repeat !)
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To: MinuteGal
Are we going to be treated to a "straw poll" for Crist after every political picnic in the state? If so, we better brace ourselves for the onslaught of meaningless local mini-polls after the Labor Day weekend.

There likely won't be enough time for that, as primary day is the day after labor day.
32 posted on 08/25/2006 7:49:02 AM PDT by Happy Valley Dude
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To: Happy Valley Dude

HVD,

Why are you still supporting this puke?

Not only is he a flaming liberal, he's also blatantly dishonest.

As to the polls you've got to be kidding! The straw poll you saw fit to lead this thread with was orchestrated by a firm loaded with Crist. It's totally bogus.

The other polls were conducted before the debate in which Mr. Sniffles blatantly patronized voters in a way that sickened the base and caused others to realize that the man has no honesty or intergrity. The best thing he had going for him was "electability," but as soon as he started airing commercials Davis caught up to him in a 2 way hypothetical (let's hope both those pukes lose their nomination). The base is now thoroughly sickened by Crist and all major media analysts are in their words - "expecting a tightening" of the race. Republicans are the ones vote in the primary and that doesn't bode well for Crist. After looking at the issues it's clear that Charlie Crist is no Republican.

Sincerely,

Someone who was leaning toward Crist just 2 weeks ago


33 posted on 08/25/2006 8:49:52 AM PDT by GOPsupporterFL (Charlie Crist: is saying "I'm a conservative. That's why I support civil unions." VOTE GALLAGHER!)
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To: Happy Valley Dude; All

Lol - First you find a straw poll that's completely bogus, conducted by Crist donors. Now you quote a poll from Aug. 12. Well ya, on Aug. 12 most were leaning toward Crist because few were paying attention to where the candidates stood on the issues. Now that Crist has come out so clear in favor of gay adoption, "civil" "unions" and insane spending promises people know who to vote for.

His own ads, especially the latest hack piece, scream desperation.

Everyone, just let this thread die a cruel death. Have mercy.


34 posted on 08/25/2006 8:57:21 AM PDT by GOPsupporterFL (Charlie Crist: is saying "I'm a conservative. That's why I support civil unions." VOTE GALLAGHER!)
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To: GOPsupporterFL
Why are you still supporting this puke?

Becasue both candidates are close enough on the important issued that it simply comes down to which one is the most electable. Both candidates have stated that they would sign a law banning abortions. Both candidates are opposed to gun control (although the NRA seemed to like Cahrlie's record better). Both have said that they will sign laws banning abortions. Both claim to oppose raising taxes, despite haveing supporting increases in the past.
35 posted on 08/25/2006 9:47:08 AM PDT by Happy Valley Dude
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To: GOPsupporterFL
Now that Crist has come out so clear in favor of gay adoption,

Perhaps you should have watched the debate earlier this week, you would have heard Crist state that he believed that children should only be adopted by one man and one woman.
36 posted on 08/25/2006 9:54:53 AM PDT by Happy Valley Dude
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To: Happy Valley Dude

Charlie Crist would do all he could to prevent a law outlawing abortion. Tom Gallagher would do all he could to support it.

Gallagher's been consistant since 1998. Crist changes from day to day.

Electable? When no one knew Charlie and assumed he's a stand up guy he was the most electable. The moment he started airing commercials Davis caught up. People see through what he is. Gallagher, on the other hand, is coming from behind because of his trustworthiness and is ahead of Davis in a match up.


37 posted on 08/25/2006 10:24:36 AM PDT by GOPsupporterFL (Charlie Crist: is saying "I'm a conservative. That's why I support civil unions." VOTE GALLAGHER!)
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To: Happy Valley Dude

We've been through this and again, like I told you last time. I actually watched it. You obviously didn't. No problem, you can catch it again on Sun. Instead you quoted some lazily written article that made passing mention that both men opposed gay adoption. One which contained numerous other fallicies, one of which I pointed out to you.

FYI Crist said nothing with regard to gay adoption during the debate! He said he's for civil unions, but thinks that MARRIAGE should be between a man and a woman. Again, nothing about adoption.

On a recent radio interview Charlie said he has no problem with gay adoption. "I'm fine with that." Google it if you want to.


38 posted on 08/25/2006 10:30:40 AM PDT by GOPsupporterFL (Charlie Crist: is saying "I'm a conservative. That's why I support civil unions." VOTE GALLAGHER!)
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To: GOPsupporterFL
Tom Gallagher is doing surprisingly well in Crist's backyard. This is the latest info I have. And, as I already reported, the St. Pete High football team is voting for TOM GALLAGHER because Charlie's dad ordered the school board that he was on to make Crist the Captain of the team. After thirty years, his St. Pete High teammates are still mad at him. The coach resigned from St. Pete High and took a coaching job at Dixie Hollins High.

After that DHH became the best football team in the area.

39 posted on 08/25/2006 10:39:48 AM PDT by floriduh voter (TOM GALLAGHER IS THE ONLY CONSERVATIVE FOR GUV www.tg2006.com)
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To: GOPsupporterFL
This phony poll thread hasn't even cracked 50 posts yet. LOL

You can't fool freepers, not many of them at least.

40 posted on 08/25/2006 10:44:15 AM PDT by floriduh voter (TOM GALLAGHER IS THE ONLY CONSERVATIVE FOR GUV www.tg2006.com)
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To: GOPsupporterFL
Gallagher's been consistant since 1998.

He has been in public life for 32 years. And he's been consistent for only eight of those years?
41 posted on 08/25/2006 10:46:06 AM PDT by Happy Valley Dude
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To: Happy Valley Dude

If it weren't for Tom Gallagher's supporters, you'd be here all alone. Where'd Crist's loyal supporters run off to and they left you in charge?


42 posted on 08/25/2006 10:53:14 AM PDT by floriduh voter (TOM GALLAGHER IS THE ONLY CONSERVATIVE FOR GUV www.tg2006.com)
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To: Happy Valley Dude; GOPsupporterFL; floriduh voter
HVD says: "Perhaps you should have watched the debate earlier this week, you would have heard Crist state that he believed that children should only be adopted by one man and one woman."

Then WHY didn't Crist answer the question on the Marriage Amendment and the others below?

"Crist is almost like a Democrat-lite," said Jim Kitchens, an Orlando political consultant and pollster.

We must.....NEVER FORGET.....Crist & Reno....Perfect together?

I find this disturbing and an indication that Crist is a RINO who is sympathetic to the homosexual agenda:

CRIST....gave NO RESPONSE....to these questions on the Christian Coalition Questionaire:

"Public schools teaching homosexuality as an acceptable lifestyle.

"Amend the Constitution to define marriage as a man and a woman"

"Prohibit Embryonic Stem Cell research that destroys a human embryo"

"Voluntary student-led prayer at school related events"

43 posted on 08/25/2006 11:16:16 AM PDT by JulieRNR21 (Go Katherine "ALL your base are belong to us." Go here: http://www.ElectHarris.org)
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To: Happy Valley Dude

Actually he's been consistant throughout. Charlie has yet to learn the meaning of the word.

Until he had a kid he admits that he was a centrist. But when he was one he was consistant

People can mature and come to realizations. That's quite different from someone who says one thing one day, another the next, and so on and on. Such a person has no principles, makes wild promises that no one even believes and will be raked over the coals for doing so before the General Election.


44 posted on 08/25/2006 12:41:53 PM PDT by GOPsupporterFL (Charlie Crist: is saying "I'm a conservative. That's why I support civil unions." VOTE GALLAGHER!)
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To: JulieRNR21

Is that the newest NBA farm team? They can't find talent like they used to.


45 posted on 08/25/2006 12:43:30 PM PDT by GOPsupporterFL (Charlie Crist: is saying "I'm a conservative. That's why I support civil unions." VOTE GALLAGHER!)
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To: floriduh voter
If it weren't for Tom Gallagher's supporters, you'd be here all alone. Where'd Crist's loyal supporters run off to and they left you in charge?

Perhaps they are contacting voters and working at polling places, as early voted has already started. Has Gallagher's team already given up?
46 posted on 08/25/2006 12:44:18 PM PDT by Happy Valley Dude
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To: GOPsupporterFL
Until he had a kid he admits that he was a centrist. But when he was one he was consistant

In 1994, Gallagher told The Miami Herald he was ''pro-choice,'' after previously proclaiming he was pro-life. Now Gallagher calls Crist ''pro-choice'' and says he is the ``only pro-life candidate in the race.''

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/state/15308263.htm

So, Gallagher became pro-life after having a son. What caused him to switch from pro-life to pro-choice prior to 1994?
47 posted on 08/25/2006 1:16:40 PM PDT by Happy Valley Dude
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To: Happy Valley Dude
Given up? See you at the debate Monday night. How will Crist answer a detailed question this time? a. I believe in America. b. I believe in freedom.

"This is America. I can wear anything I want to. I believe in freedom." Crist

48 posted on 08/25/2006 1:27:07 PM PDT by floriduh voter (TOM GALLAGHER IS THE ONLY CONSERVATIVE FOR GUV www.tg2006.com)
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