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To: AmericanInTokyo

You wrote (loudly), "THEY SUCCEEDED IN GETTING CONSERVATIVES TO TURN AGAINST MR. ALLEN, IN FORUMS SUCH AS RIGHT HERE ON F.R. AND ELSEWHERE."

Nope, sorry. You can't blame liberals for Allen's seeming inability to keep his foot from his mouth or, for that matter, blame conservatives such as myself for feeling no enthusiasm whatsoever for his presidential aspirations.

Allen is in a close race with a tough opponent, and knew that he would be under a media microscope, yet somehow couldn't refrain from making an (admittedly) vague racial aspersion. Or association. Or whatever the heck it was.

I am tempted to believe, though, that Webb sent his man to innumerable Allen events on purpose: highly visible, always there, getting under Allen's skin, hoping to provoke a response--any response--from Allen. Since Webb's man is (evidently) obviously of Indian extraction, then any response by Allen to this kind of calculated pseudo-stalking could be tied to his supposedly racist sentiments. And it worked, probably better than Webb and his people could've dreamed.

Allen was outplayed. If he doesn't do well against Webb, a relative neophyte to electoral politics, imagine how he will do against someone like, say, Hillary. It would be like watching a duck swimming in the shark tank at the zoo.


49 posted on 08/23/2006 1:41:29 PM PDT by Rembrandt_fan
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To: Rembrandt_fan
Nope, sorry. You can't blame liberals for Allen's seeming inability to keep his foot from his mouth or, for that matter..

I have to agree with you!... the whole thing was silly and sure Allen SHOULD LEARN from this one.. (Amazing professional politicians don't know these things by now!!), but ok, so he made a mistake... good thing he did now when it does not mean much rather than later in the campaing. He apologized (ok) and that should the end of the story. Doesn't Allen know that by blobbering to the MSM is like splashing blood in a oncen full of sharks???... AMAZING.

His reaction though... it's beginning to bother me. If there is one thing I want in a polician second to honesty and conviction is not to act as if they LOSE their position THEY WILL DIE and therefore demean themselves in their DESPERATION. Not pretty to watch.

55 posted on 08/23/2006 1:58:46 PM PDT by ElPatriota (Let's not forget, we are all still friends despite our differences)
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To: Rembrandt_fan
Fine.

I suppose I can't argue with the way you feel.

Let Webb (D) win then, and move the Senate toward more greater Democrat control. The more we burn up on this issue internally, the more the libs win, which is what you and I both want at the end of the day.

62 posted on 08/23/2006 2:03:23 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (A few clever bones tossed on gay unions, flag burning & Iraq still don't absolve GWB over BORDERS)
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To: Rembrandt_fan

Very true. I had to write Pence off a few weeks ago, now it looks like Allen is down for the count. What did W say after the "Major league clymer" incident? Did he go on an apology tour? I don't think so. What did the WH do after the recent use of the word Sh!t? They said he said what he meant.

Guess I'm down to Rudy unless someone comes along on a white horse. I don't like his stance on some issues, but I think he'd police the border and fight the war.


91 posted on 08/23/2006 2:38:16 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Peace In Our TimeĀ®)
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