Posted on 08/23/2006 3:44:34 PM PDT by ncountylee
I got suspended once for hanging a.... oh, fLag, never mind.
Great response!
I see that you have no answer to that.
Sorry that not everyone thinks that reading about something in a book AND actually seeing it is just too much to handle.
Well done.
Me. I'll stick with my idea of wanting to actually see and experience things, instead of only reading about them.
This is HUGH! - There now. That felt good. No one says that any more on FR.
By your "logic" hanging a picture of Galen or Hippocates on the wall would facilitate their learning of anatomy.
One does not need to flag hanging to learn about WHERE a country is; WHAT its physical geography is like; HOW its people live, etc.
Bottom line. Are you willing to deprive your children from learning as much as they can because some beareaucrats say so?
If you don't think that this is a nonsensical, pointless, and potentially harmful (to the student's education) law then I don't know what to tell you.
And again, your speeding example is an entirely different animal. You cannot compare a law regulating how fast you can drive two-plus tons of machinery down a road with a law saying that teachers are forbidden from displaying flags in a geography classroom. I would hope that people here on FR would be able to make that distinction.
OH MY GOD! You cannot seriously be making this arguement.
No, you do not need to hang a flag to learn where a counry is or how its people live. It is called a teaching aid. Flags represent and identify countries.
No wonder American public schools are a laughing stock with sentiments like this.
I'm not sure I follow you.
Are you saying people should not have to waste time & effort circling the wagons, before shooting Native Americans?
Last time I looked, no one was trying to shoot Native Americans in North Dakota; nor does this law REQUIRE they be shoot.
However, by requiring those who are attempting to shoot Native Americans to circle their wagons first, it gives the intended victims time to flea, and also gives law enforcement more time to arrive and stop (Since N.A.'s are supposedly legal to shoot, it is not attempted murder.) a nasty disturbance of the peace, and possible reckless endangerment of non- Native American bystanders.
Are you saying that is a BAD thing?
...refused to remove them.
Well, HELLO, Hugh! We've missed you around her, lately!
;-)
That, and I have a habit of not replying to morons.
Colorado state law said "no flags".
I suggest you plead your liberal, PC case to them. You seem to be so full of yourself....
Me. I'll stick with my idea ...
And if you feel so strong about this.....
Me. I'll stick with my idea of wanting to actually see and experience things, instead of only reading about them.....
Then I suggest you, personally, pay for each and every kid to "actually see and experience things.."
No?
Then STFU.
That has to be the most amazing post I have ever seen on FR. And I don't mean that in a good way.
The answer to your question is of course not.
But this particular law you object to is trivial compared to the REAL problems we have in our public school system from leftwing indoctrination. Students reading Rigoberto Menchu instead of Adam Smith? Students being taught that the founding principles of our country are nothing but constructs used to prop up the power of racist, misogynistic, capitalistic oppressors, etc. etc.
You are elevating this triviality far beyond its real importance. Your arguments are those that should really be addressed in the Colorado legislature, and there are not enough facts in this article to justify your position. Was there a problem with marxist high school teachers permanently displaying certain flags (Vietnam, Nicaragua, Cuba, Venezuela, whatever the regime of the moment for the left is) having nothing to do with their teaching curriculum, but rather part of their leftwing indoctrination? Who knows? I don't, and I suspect that you are taking a strong position without knowing either.
Agreed. But since this was a matter of law and not simply school policy, are you saying that you would have refused to take down the foreign flags until the curriculum demanded it?
adminstrators spend their time on garbage like this - micromanaging Geography Displays to make a political statement - instead of figuring out how to TEACH OUR CHILDREN.
I submit that the teacher is wasting the school's and the students' time on garbage like seeking ACLU counsel to find the law unconstitutional. If it's not a big deal, why is he -- literally -- making a federal case of it? Is that what you call "teaching?" Hi, Dandelion! Please don't give some weak reply about this turning into a living civics lesson.
Colorado state law said "no flags".
Other state laws also say that if a woman is driving a car that a man must be walking in front of it to guide her and block traffic. And still other state laws say that you cannot drink a beer while standing up. Looks like we have an awful lot of criminals walking around based on that.
Then I suggest you, personally, pay for each and every kid to "actually see and experience things.." No?
Umm. I pay taxes so that kids can go to school and learn things. And here's a news flash: they won't turn into little commies by seeing other nation's flags.
STFU.
Is this what your arguement in favor of not teaching kids basic things about the world has devolved to?
BUT did it EVER occur to you that he could have LEGALLY posted large, full color PICTURES, equally a "teaching aid", of said flags on the room's bulletin board? When they actual part of the curriculum came up, THEN he could have temporarily LEGALLY displayed the flags, as well.
Instead, he chose first to hang the legally proscribed flags themselves; then willfully commit insubordination over the issue, rather than taking a very simple, LEGAL way out.
"It's much along the lines of a science teacher who puts up a map of the solar sysem.
The law he's against is new.
"It's much along the lines of a science teacher who puts up a map of the solar system."
AND...does the science teacher put of maps of only SELECT planets of the solar system?
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