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South of the Border (Washington Times Rips AMLO)
The Washington Times ^ | August 23, 2006 | Washington Times

Posted on 08/23/2006 7:39:04 PM PDT by StJacques

In the more than three weeks since the firebrand populist Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador began his protests in Mexico City to dispute the slim victory of his conservative rival Felipe Calderon in the July 2 presidential election, the Federal Electoral Tribunal has rejected a full recount and, after conducting a limited recount, found no evidence of fraud or serious irregularity. Mr. Lopez Obrador's opposition has become more vehement, however, most likely in anticipation of a final decision due from the Federal Electoral Institute on Sept. 6. The protests have caused problems for commuters and turned away tourists and visitors, costing local business an estimated $23 million per day. . . .


(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Mexico; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2006; amlo; calderon; election; electoraltribunal; felipecalderon; lopezobrador; mexico; mexicocity; pan; prd; protest; tooclosetocall
This editorial speaks for itself, but I do want everyone to know that it is making news in Mexico:

http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/notas/370558.html

The commentary on the article at the above link is a mere repetition of what is essentially written. But Mexicans are hearing what others are saying.
1 posted on 08/23/2006 7:39:08 PM PDT by StJacques
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To: conservative in nyc; CedarDave; Pikachu_Dad; BunnySlippers; machogirl; NinoFan; chilepepper; ...

A Mex-Elex ping for you all.


2 posted on 08/23/2006 7:39:59 PM PDT by StJacques (Liberty is always unfinished business)
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To: StJacques

Thanks!


3 posted on 08/23/2006 7:47:46 PM PDT by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
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To: StJacques

The problem is, the Mexicans who are hearing and understanding are not the problem. The ones who are the problem will never hear nor understand.


4 posted on 08/23/2006 7:49:50 PM PDT by McGavin999 (God watch over the young lions of Israel as they fight Hell's Bullies)
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To: StJacques
"The more moderate leaders of Central and South America who came to power democratically and value that system of government should firmly rebuke Mr. Lopez Obrador's course of action."

Or, as Enterprise would say, REBUKE THE PUKE!

5 posted on 08/23/2006 7:51:03 PM PDT by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
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To: McGavin999

However I'm glad he alienated many of his supporters in Mexico City who were appalled at his idea of peaceful resistance.


6 posted on 08/23/2006 7:59:01 PM PDT by BunnySlippers
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To: McGavin999
"The problem is, the Mexicans who are hearing and understanding are not the problem. The ones who are the problem will never hear nor understand."

I really like that McGavin.

It's that "never hearing" part that makes the Left such a disruptive force in politics wherever they are. It's never about dialogue, it's only about forcing everyone else either to think the way they think or accept that they're the only ones permitted to think. And that is why the Left is a threat to democracy everywhere.
7 posted on 08/23/2006 8:11:58 PM PDT by StJacques (Liberty is always unfinished business)
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To: BunnySlippers
"I'm glad he alienated many of his supporters in Mexico City who were appalled at his idea of peaceful resistance."

Almost as much as they were appalled at his decision to rob them of employment and security.
8 posted on 08/23/2006 8:13:44 PM PDT by StJacques (Liberty is always unfinished business)
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To: StJacques

You know ... it seems we'll get through it this election. But I really have fears for 2014. But then ... I'm a worrier. :)

BTW, I'm going back to Mexico. I have a choice of Puebla/Tlaxcala ... or Chiapas. What say you, St. J.?


9 posted on 08/23/2006 8:24:49 PM PDT by BunnySlippers
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To: StJacques

I have zero, count it...zero, doubt that Algore and John F'in Kerry would have tried the same thing in the US if either thought they could pull it off. I hope the Mexicans are able to resist this attempt at a coup by Gorebrador.


10 posted on 08/23/2006 8:57:13 PM PDT by Rembrandt (We would have won Viet Nam w/o Dim interference.)
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To: BunnySlippers
PUEBLA!!!!

There is no finer dish in all of Mexican cuisine that Puebla's famous Mole de Guajolote; the city is absolutely beautiful at night when they light up the churches; the quality of the arts and handicrafts in the area, and especially the Talavera ceramics such as tiles, kitchenware, etc. are magnificent and you will want to take some home; you will be within easy driving distance of Mexico City (about 90 minutes) and especially Veracruz (maybe 2+ hours), which is a really fun town --> Tequila, Mariscos, and Huapango make a great combination.

I spent a little over a month in Puebla and I had a great time. You should go there and make sure you go visit Veracruz.
11 posted on 08/23/2006 10:10:45 PM PDT by StJacques (Liberty is always unfinished business)
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To: StJacques; rovenstinez

Meanwhile, in China, a blind man is sentenced to four years in prison for merely conspiring to create a mob to block traffic:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2006-08-24-china-activist_x.htm

The Chinese dictators say Mexico's proof of why one can't mix democracy with capitalism in an emerging marketplace.


12 posted on 08/24/2006 6:15:45 AM PDT by Shuttle Shucker
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To: BunnySlippers

You'll leave Los Angeles to live in Mexico? Has Hell-A I mean L.A. become that bad?

I lived in Mexico for 6 years and often missed Los Angeles. I have noticed considerable deterioration in various ways in La-La Land though.


13 posted on 08/24/2006 6:32:38 AM PDT by Shuttle Shucker
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To: Shuttle Shucker

No, just a vacation ... and a short one at that.

Where in Mexico did you live? When I lived in Arizona (2 years) I longed for LA and drove back about once a month. :)


14 posted on 08/24/2006 7:41:03 AM PDT by BunnySlippers
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To: StJacques
It's that "never hearing" part that makes the Left such a disruptive force in politics wherever they are. It's never about dialogue, it's only about forcing everyone else either to think the way they think or accept that they're the only ones permitted to think. And that is why the Left is a threat to democracy everywhere.

This tactic of challenging the results of elections is a long time Communist tactic. It first appeared after the fall of the USSR and the first truly free elections in Eastern Europe. Any time the Communists lost they went to this tactic.

It goes like this:

Before the election accuse the other side of planning election fraud.

Commit election fraud while accusing the other side.

If that fails, demand a recount.

If that fails, continually declare that the government that was legally elected is a fraud and is illigitimate.

Repeat at next election cycle.

We saw this here with the 2000 election and again in 2004. It is a staple of the left so get used to it.

15 posted on 08/24/2006 8:55:21 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done, needs to be done by the government.)
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To: Rembrandt
I have zero, count it...zero, doubt that Algore and John F'in Kerry would have tried the same thing in the US if either thought they could pull it off.

See #15.

16 posted on 08/24/2006 9:00:12 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done, needs to be done by the government.)
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To: BunnySlippers

Mostly Mexico City, but also Monterrey (while visiting most states often as a volunteer elections observer when one could still easily get deported for doing so during the 1990's).


17 posted on 08/24/2006 10:13:05 AM PDT by Shuttle Shucker
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To: Shuttle Shucker; BunnySlippers; livius; freedumb2003; rovenstinez
You guys will not believe the interview AMLO had with the French newspaper Le Monde yesterday. He said that if the "National Democratic Convention" he has called for September 16 names him "President of Mexico," then the country will wake up with two presidents on September 17. I'm translating it (from the French) bit by bit as I get free time today. It's unbelievable. AMLO is stark raving nuts! I'm not kidding, the conspiracies he details, the numbers from the recount he throws around, and more show that the man has seriously divorced himself from reality. Fox's spokesman Ruben Aguilar said that AMLO is Fantasioso, which literally translates as "fantasizer" but implies much worse.
18 posted on 08/24/2006 12:20:59 PM PDT by StJacques (Liberty is always unfinished business)
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To: StJacques

This is interesting but I'm not sure I understand ... Obrador said this or the AMLO spokesman?

It is REALLY irritating that there is so little English language news out there on Mexico.


19 posted on 08/24/2006 1:44:21 PM PDT by BunnySlippers
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To: BunnySlippers

AMLO said it himself BunnySlippers. It's a fascinating look into the many dimensions of the man's truly warped mind. I'm over half-way done translating it right now and in about 15 minutes I will have all my work wrapped up for the day and I'll get to sit down with it and finish it up then. Just as soon as I put something in my anxious and empty stomach that is.


20 posted on 08/24/2006 1:48:10 PM PDT by StJacques (Liberty is always unfinished business)
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To: BunnySlippers
"It is REALLY irritating that there is so little English language news out there on Mexico."

Don't worry, I've got your back BunnySlippers. :-)
21 posted on 08/24/2006 1:49:23 PM PDT by StJacques (Liberty is always unfinished business)
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To: StJacques
Just as soon as I put something in my anxious and empty stomach that is.

Why don't you whip up some of that Mole de Guajolote! That should take you about half a day. Haha!

That was the first mole I ever made but have made mole on many occasions since ... just not for turkey again.

GOBBLE GOBBLE ...

22 posted on 08/24/2006 3:45:13 PM PDT by BunnySlippers
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To: BunnySlippers
"Why don't you whip up some of that Mole de Guajolote! That should take you about half a day. Haha!"

It takes me a minimum of ten hours from start to finish to prepare a true Mole, a dish I consider to be an art form more than I do a recipe.

I just cannot get the selection of fresh chili peppers I need to make a good Mole here in Lafayette, Louisiana nor can I get the kind of unsweetened chocolate I prefer to use as well. The last couple of times I have made a true Mole have been when I returned from visiting my brother and sister, both of whom live in Houston, when I had the opportunity to go to a couple of Mexican markets. I really like having at least six kinds of peppers, both fully ripened and still green -- which really means "12 kinds of peppers," and the list must include hard-to-find AND high quality chili arbol and poblanos (both red and green), as well as the "hot" versions of the Santa Fe chilis (the ones I see around here are too sweet with no kick), and at least a couple others for variety beyond the jalapeños and serranos I can get here. The real trick is knowing how to select those chilis which are both "hot and sweet" (esp. the Santa Fe and green chili arbol) and frying them in oil to boost their kick, while taking those that are the hottest and steaming or using them fresh to moderate their impact. As it was explained to me in Puebla you take the hottest and tone them down, you take the mildest and beef them up. And you must start out with fresh uncooked sesame seeds. But the really big secret is knowing how to remove the seeds without removing the "seed pulp" on the interior of the pepper (this "tones it down" and permits you to use more peppers for a full-bodied flavor) and using South American unsweetened chocolate, like the Colombian "Luker" or "La Rosa" varieties that really are superb.

And if you don't have really good beer on hand it's not even worth the trouble to start.
23 posted on 08/24/2006 5:39:03 PM PDT by StJacques (Liberty is always unfinished business)
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To: StJacques
Do you remember the names of the markets in Houston where you obtained your ingredients?

BTW...many thanks for the ongoing Obragore news. I've gotten to where I search your posts everyday to get the latest news. MSM is worthless.

24 posted on 08/24/2006 8:05:44 PM PDT by rhinohunter
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To: StJacques

You will find my name in this cookbook and a couple of others:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/000215949X/sr=8-1/qid=1156480453/ref=pd_bbs_1/002-3372779-6732818?ie=UTF8

What I am doing in Mexico if often cooking ... often in small Indian towns.


25 posted on 08/24/2006 9:37:10 PM PDT by BunnySlippers
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To: StJacques
In the more than three weeks since the firebrand populist Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador began his protests in Mexico City

Geez, if one more reporter calls these Latin American communists "firebrand" one more time, I'm going to puke.

26 posted on 08/24/2006 9:44:29 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Rabid ethnicist.)
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