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Musharraf Faces Bitter Clash Over Rape Law Reforms
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 8-25-2006 | Isambard Wilkinson

Posted on 08/24/2006 7:27:17 PM PDT by blam

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1 posted on 08/24/2006 7:27:19 PM PDT by blam
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not even the country's first female leader, Benazir Bhutto, dared reform it.

Not only is islam primitive, it's regressing.
2 posted on 08/24/2006 7:30:14 PM PDT by cripplecreek (If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?)
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The fact that the I-slimeists are against this reasonable protection for women and children is all you need to know to understand how vile they are.


3 posted on 08/24/2006 7:31:14 PM PDT by Ronin (Ut iusta esse, lex noblis severus necesse est.)
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I believe this is what the war on terror is all about.

Cowardly Muslim men cannot stand the idea of not being the owner, judge, jury and executioner over females.

We need to start arming these poor women.
4 posted on 08/24/2006 7:32:14 PM PDT by msnimje (What part of-- "DEATH TO AMERICA" --do the Democrats not understand?)
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Bush's fault!


5 posted on 08/24/2006 7:33:33 PM PDT by Mr. Peabody
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Hazat Aman, an official of a social welfare group run by the hardline Islamic Jamaat-i-Islami party. "It is an attack on Islam," he said.

EVERYTHING is an attack on Islam, because Islam attacks everything.


6 posted on 08/24/2006 7:34:08 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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It also sets no minimum age for sex with girls, saying only that they should have reached puberty. A powerful militant Muslim lobby regards this code as sacred and based on Koranic texts and sharia law.

Yeah, Mohammad wasn't a pedophile, right!!
7 posted on 08/24/2006 7:36:23 PM PDT by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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I got to give him credit.

Musharraf has guts.

Unlike the so called "moderates" like CAIR, Musharraf is not enabling the fascists. His life is in danger every day, his political situation perilous in best of times, yet he's doing what CAIR would never dream of doing. Standing up for the innocent.

Not all at once, but step by step.


8 posted on 08/24/2006 7:39:41 PM PDT by Soul Seeker (Kobach: Amnesty is going from an illegal to a legal position, without imposing the original penalty.)
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I realize Musharref is more-or-less a dictator, but maybe that's the best option in Islamic societies. Democracy, in and of itself, isn't a cure-all solution, as evidenced by the election of Hamas in the PA and the unwillingness of the elected Leb govt. to contain the Hezzies. Churchill once suggested that WWII might have been averted had a strong constitutional monarchy been established in Germany after WWI. Something of that nature might serve better in the ME, IMHO.


9 posted on 08/24/2006 7:41:34 PM PDT by lesser_satan (EKTHELTHIOR!!!)
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But of course Islamic fascism is not a problem, it's only that evil George Bush, according to our liberals and the Europeans...


10 posted on 08/24/2006 7:45:31 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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This just shows how far these Islamic societies have to go. I can only shake my head at the pass they continue to get from liberals, feminists, and the MSM.


11 posted on 08/24/2006 7:49:24 PM PDT by Northern Alliance
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Not as a complete comparison but how many people today would consider the American republic established in 1789 a 'democracy.' We had slavery and women could not vote. Ending both (mainly slavery) caused enormous bloodshed. Big changes do not occur non-violently. They are fought over. At some point even Islam will be compelled to make changes to survive in the real world, but it will be bloody and vicious.
12 posted on 08/24/2006 8:17:02 PM PDT by DHerion
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"Unlike the so called "moderates" like CAIR, Musharraf is not enabling the fascists. His life is in danger every day, his political situation perilous in best of times, yet he's doing what CAIR would never dream of doing. Standing up for the innocent. "

Yup. A little different view of him. I believed he was just 'acting-out' to keep the 'aid' money coming. This looks like something completely different.

13 posted on 08/24/2006 8:22:46 PM PDT by blam
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We're not a democracy, and never have been. We're a federally organized, constitutional republic with democratically elected legislatures and executives. It's worked quite well, IMHO.


14 posted on 08/24/2006 8:28:05 PM PDT by lesser_satan (EKTHELTHIOR!!!)
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To: blam

Musharraf should use the tried and true method of holding up his adversaries to public scrutiny and honestly say what they are supporting.

Speaking directly to the women of Pakistan, he should ask rhetorically how many of them had been raped, and was there any doubt in their minds that the rapist should have been punished? Then ask if they had been molested when they were young, and should their molesters have been punished?

Then point out that these mullahs are defending the ability of rapists to rape and molesters to molest. That they justify male cruelty to women by interpreting the Koran to say that women are less than men, and therefore can be abused like animals.

Conclude by saying that women who support such men should live in shame for supporting such men. That women who think themselves human should refuse to honor such brutes.

That when women look upon such men, they should see only criminals who want to rape women and molest children, because they are not honorable men. Men who distort the Koran for their perverted pleasures.


15 posted on 08/24/2006 8:31:57 PM PDT by Popocatapetl
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Then point out that these mullahs are defending the ability of rapists to rape and molesters to molest. That they justify male cruelty to women by interpreting the Koran to say that women are less than men, and therefore can be abused like animals.

Here's the problem: that's not how they are *interpreting* the Koran, that's what the Koran *SAYS*.

And since in their hideous theology, the Koran is the revealed word of their god, it's not subject to interpretation. That's why there really cannot be a "reformation" of islam.

17 posted on 08/24/2006 9:01:57 PM PDT by cooldog (Islam is a criminal conspiracy to commit mass murder ... deal with it!)
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I still hope that a reform of Islam will come from women. Women who tolerate the abuse they suffer, but want a better life for their children. Perhaps they will tolerate being raped, but not their daughters. A mother's love is very powerful, and rooted deeply in nature.


18 posted on 08/24/2006 9:02:58 PM PDT by mockingbyrd
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"That they justify male cruelty to women by interpreting the Koran to say that women are less than men, and therefore can be abused like animals."

I agree with all that you say but animals don't deserve abuse either.

19 posted on 08/24/2006 9:08:41 PM PDT by blam
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Good point. Whatever his shortcomings, who the hell would want the insane mullahs to replace him?


20 posted on 08/24/2006 9:12:24 PM PDT by Larry Lucido ("There's no problem so big that government intervention can't make it worse.")
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