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Why Britain Stopped the Terror Plot
Insight Magazine via FPM ^ | 25 AUGUST 2006 | Insight Magazine

Posted on 08/25/2006 3:12:48 AM PDT by rdb3

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The Homeland Security Department has neither the legal nor technical tools to match the British capture of terrorist operatives before they were about to blow up passenger airliners.

And this is just pathetic.

1 posted on 08/25/2006 3:12:49 AM PDT by rdb3
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Good morning, rdb3. They're going to get a whole bunch of people killed, I fear. It's this kind of thinking that just frosts me: "DHS's Sciences & Technology Directorate failed to spend $200 million in research and development money from previous years."

Makes no difference HOW you spend the money, just that you do spend it.

2 posted on 08/25/2006 3:35:05 AM PDT by Bahbah (Goldwasser, Regev and Shalit, we are praying for you...and now Steve and Olaf.)
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Well, when you have Demoncrats fighting against throwing money at security and raising countless objections to wire tapping and giving terrorist rights with politically correct trash ... THAT IS THE RESULT ->

"The Homeland Security Department has neither the legal nor technical tools to match the British capture of terrorist operatives before they were about to blow up passenger airliners."

Now, they'll be highly critical of the Bush administration for not doing more while they feverishly hinder ALL possible to make us more secure.
3 posted on 08/25/2006 3:44:16 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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The America haters try their best to kill the Patriot Act then they screech that the DHS is not doing enough to keep America safe.

Seems there are those who constantly complain no matter what steps are taken to keep us safe.

They celebrate the corrupt judge Diggs, then demand to know why the Brits do more to prevent terror attacks.

4 posted on 08/25/2006 3:52:54 AM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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I have begun to wonder if they even see the enormous inconsistencies and disconnect from reality in their positions. Very dangerous bunch.


5 posted on 08/25/2006 4:04:34 AM PDT by Bahbah (Goldwasser, Regev and Shalit, we are praying for you...and now Steve and Olaf.)
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The Brits have spent decades fighting terrorism and know that you have to fight dirty to beat them. I remember being in the UK when the IRA cell was shot dead on Gibraltar. If you don't stoop to their levels, they will win.


6 posted on 08/25/2006 4:06:51 AM PDT by AdAstraPerArdua
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To: Bahbah

As Mark Steyn said so well yesterday. The left WANTS us to lose the WOT.


7 posted on 08/25/2006 4:18:44 AM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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Yeah, let's all vote/not vote to teach Republican's a lesson this fall!
8 posted on 08/25/2006 5:14:15 AM PDT by Obadiah
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The Homeland Security Department has neither the legal nor technical tools to match the British capture of terrorist operatives before they were about to blow up passenger airliners.

I fear that all aspects of US society, DHS as an example, now emphasize bureaucracy over substance...

9 posted on 08/25/2006 5:16:18 AM PDT by RochesterFan
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The America haters try their best to kill the Patriot Act then they screech that the DHS is not doing enough to keep America safe.

That's because those people claim the only way to stop terrorism is to redistribute wealth worldwide. That $200 million is wasted in their eyes unless it goes to the terrorists.

10 posted on 08/25/2006 5:17:24 AM PDT by SlowBoat407 (I've had it with these &%#@* jihadis on these &%#@* planes!)
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unfortunately, IMHO you are extracting the wrong lesson from this: the british authorities were nimble and fast and had better tools and regulations to assist them. its a laugher to think the HS, would somehow become more effective if it had better tools and regulations.

the key of course, is the people and is in being nimble and fast. i find the HS to be a bit of a bad joke and do *not* sleep better at night knowing they are on the beat strip searching 85 year old invalid women at the airport...

11 posted on 08/25/2006 5:23:05 AM PDT by chilepepper (The map is not the territory -- Alfred Korzybski)
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''What helped the British in this case is the ability to be nimble, to be fast, to be flexible, to operate based on fast-moving information,'' Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff said.

Just another example of Chertoff's insatiable lust for power. The man is a danger to our freedom.

12 posted on 08/25/2006 5:24:29 AM PDT by OldCorps
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And this is just pathetic.

Nameless, faceless, bureaucrats...federal judges, ACLU, inertia.
13 posted on 08/25/2006 5:33:24 AM PDT by carumba (The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing. If you can fake that, you've got it made. Groucho)
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14 posted on 08/25/2006 6:03:06 AM PDT by Gritty (If this is a ‘long war’ it needs rhetoric that can go the distance. Today it fails that test-Mk Stey)
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To: chilepepper

You can keep to your mantra about HS searching 85 yr. olds but you know full well there is a lot going on that you know nothing about......but then you don't want to know either because it takes away your whine.


15 posted on 08/25/2006 6:17:57 AM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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"DHS's Sciences & Technology Directorate failed to spend $200 million in research and development money from previous years."

Makes no difference HOW you spend the money, just that you do spend it.

I'm not so sure. In my opinion congress created DHS and then immediately recognized the potential for pork. They have created a situation where DHS is a pork distribution project, parcelling out grants in the $1M range to a million different municipalities and states. Makes congress happy, though when I hear them upset that they didnt spend enough I wonder what strings were on that money (limits on ammounts per project, has to be used on small/minority businesses, must be in state x...).

Bottom line, congress doesnt take HLS seriously. If it did, it would demand a comprehensive strategy, fund it, and support it. And if that strategy resulted in fewer life jackets going to Fargo ND, they'd nod and accept it because the greater good warrants it. But try to take a penny away from local pork spending (NYC anyone?) and listen to the wailing.

If it began to treat DHS like DOD was treated in the cold war, we'd see some progress. But that looks unlikely unless we get hit again in a big way (god forbid).

16 posted on 08/25/2006 6:18:09 AM PDT by pepsi_junkie (Often wrong, but never in doubt!)
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In my opinion congress created DHS and then immediately recognized the potential for pork. They have created a situation where DHS is a pork distribution project

That was actually my point. You just did a far better job of making it.

17 posted on 08/25/2006 6:29:18 AM PDT by Bahbah (Goldwasser, Regev and Shalit, we are praying for you...and now Steve and Olaf.)
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18 posted on 08/25/2006 7:12:45 AM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn't do!)
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I had thought you were saying that in the current circumstances, we need to be investing in a variety of projects and if the money is there then it needs to be spent or we'll never make progress. As my only defense for debating someone by throwing their own point back at them, I refer you to my tagline.


19 posted on 08/25/2006 7:26:52 AM PDT by pepsi_junkie (Often wrong, but never in doubt!)
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To: rdb3

BUSH SPIED
TERRORIST DIED


20 posted on 08/25/2006 7:31:11 AM PDT by edzo4
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