[MadeInAmerica]

...And now you realize why I am opposed to gays adopting or teaching our children.

Umm... because some of them made foul threats against you? Because they used to be considered mentally ill?

If I wrote essays opposing Judaism, or stating that black people should not be allowed to adopt white children, or that women aren't fit to serve on juries, I would most likely get some pretty vicious hate mail from Jewish, black and female readers, respectively. That wouldn't prove much, even though various authorities have stated in the past that Jews are evil, blacks are violent and women are hysterical.

You'll have to come up with a better argument than "because I've succeeded in pissing them off".

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See, you are using a fallacy of logic to justify your position. Being of Jewish decent is NOT an option. Being black is NOT an option. Being gay IS an option. I can prove it by showing many examples of gay people going back to healthy relationships. Other than Michael Jackson, have you ever seen a black man change colors? A jewish person can denounce his religion, but by blood they are still Jewish, like it or not.

Next in line....sex with animals because they truely love thier dog and they are being denied the RIGHT to enjoy their dog sexually.

Go ahead, bring on the "I was born this way" and "God made me this way" tripe. Every person has their crosses to bear. God made everyone, but their choices to follow their "Free Will Sins" move them closer or further from him. It is CLEAR from every society known to mankind...this is a filthy position to try to justify all in the name of being PC.

All that is their choice, just don't expect special consideration and exceptions because of their unhealthy faults. The sexual disease rate among gays is much, much higher than general population. The casual sex, multiple partners is also way out of whack with the norm.

Flame away

[ivyleaguebrat]

No.. you're using a fallacy of logic. His point had nothing to do with the level of mutability of the attributes involved. It also had nothing to do with whether being gay is just an "unhealthy fault."

His point was that the author makes no real arguments in favor of his position, except "because I've succeeded in pissing them off."

Whether or not you agree with his arguments, you can still call him on his stunted writing and juvenile reasoning.

[VictoryGal]

> See, you are using a fallacy of logic to justify your position. Being of Jewish decent is NOT an option. Being black is NOT an option. Being gay IS an option. I can prove it by showing many examples of gay people going back to healthy relationships.

Interesting. So let's say the societal norm was for you to have relationships with members of the same sex, and you could never marry someone of the opposite sex. Would you:

1. Knuckle under, swallow your revulsion, and go into therapy to learn to love the right brand of gender, OR
2. Quietly live your true self in the shadows, loving likewise inclined members of the opposite sex, in fear of being exposed, OR
3. Live openly as a heterosexual, opening yourself up for ridicule, taunts, insults, and discrimination in hiring and elsewhere.

How do you like those choices? Could YOU change the gender you find attractive?