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McCain's statement on War in Iraq
McCain website | 8.25.06 | Sen John McCain

Posted on 08/28/2006 9:45:26 AM PDT by meandog

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To: MNJohnnie
Yeah, the SAME Conventional War dogma followed in Vietnam. The "More Boots on the Ground" crowd sent 500,000 to Vietnam. How did that work out for us?

It worked fine as we never lost one single battle...in fact, it worked until Nixon's "Vietnamization" of the war, when we turned the fighting roles over to inexperienced and incompetent RVN forces who proved immediately they were incapable of stopping the NVA. Had we followed "more boots on the ground" and not lost the will because of the ongoing demonstrations we'd have the capitol of a united Vietnam in "Saigon" instead of Hanoi and there would be no such place called "Ho Chi Mihn City"!

41 posted on 08/28/2006 11:28:06 AM PDT by meandog (While Clinton isn't fit even to scrape Reagan's shoes, Bush will never fill them!)
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To: Earthdweller

At times it appears I have an at times stutter.


42 posted on 08/28/2006 11:28:41 AM PDT by Earthdweller (Rejoice, rejoice..and again I say rejoice.)
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To: zook
McCain has been a steadfast supporter of the War on Terror. As much as I may disagree with him on some issues, he's a decent man whom I'll certainly consider supporting for the GOP Presidential nomination.

He would sell YOU out in a heartbeat if he thought he could get good press out of it.

43 posted on 08/28/2006 11:33:20 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (I gigged your peace frog.)
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To: MNJohnnie

'Boots on the ground" often translates into" butts in chairs" when one is talking about something as bureaucratic as the Army. Of the 500,000 in Vietnam, around 50,000 were engaged directly with the enemy.


44 posted on 08/28/2006 12:01:33 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: meandog

Looks like I wasn't the only one that called him. Like I said, McCain doesn't have an ounce of courage of conviction to stick to his guns and say what he really means.


45 posted on 08/28/2006 12:04:52 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
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To: meandog
No flips nor flops, but a steady believer in the doctrine of "overwhelming force" in war.

ROTFLOL!!! He just flipped-flopped on this ONE issue alone in LESS than a week!

46 posted on 08/28/2006 12:06:23 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
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To: SoldierDad
I really like your tagline, though I would hazard to say that very few could fill those shoes.

Including his guy McCain.

47 posted on 08/28/2006 12:07:56 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
ROTFLOL!!! He just flipped-flopped on this ONE issue alone in LESS than a week!

How so, B.S.Freeper? He simply pointed out that "WE" shouldn't have originally made Iraq seem so easy in the original article...

48 posted on 08/28/2006 12:19:29 PM PDT by meandog (While Clinton isn't fit even to scrape Reagan's shoes, Bush will never fill them!)
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To: meandog

"I commend the President for his public statements offering Americans an honest assessment of the progress we have made in Iraq and the challenges that still confront us there, and, of course, for his determination to defend American security and international peace and stability by succeeding in this arduous and costly enterprise"

I think his webweenie made a mistake. I believe he meant to say, "I Condemned...."


49 posted on 08/28/2006 12:38:43 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Mediacrat - A leftwing editorialist who pretends to be an objective journalist.)
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To: meandog

50 posted on 08/28/2006 12:59:18 PM PDT by Babu
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To: Babu
But HE CAN carry the blue states:


51 posted on 08/28/2006 1:05:53 PM PDT by meandog (While Clinton isn't fit even to scrape Reagan's shoes, Bush will never fill them!)
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To: zook

I too respect McCain for supporting the war, but this latest statement has me infuriated. It's an outright lie, and he knows it. McCain has always appeared a little too eager to get into the White House and to please lefties. I support McCain because of his support of the war and ONLY!! if he is the one GOP candidate who can keep Shrillary out of the White House.


52 posted on 08/28/2006 1:45:18 PM PDT by driftless2
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To: driftless2
"I support McCain because of his support of the war and ONLY!! if he is the one GOP candidate who can keep Shrillary out of the White House."

Amen. I detest flip flops. It's so deceptive. Stick to one side on an issue McCain or kiss it all goodbye.

53 posted on 08/28/2006 3:15:29 PM PDT by Earthdweller (Rejoice, rejoice..and again I say rejoice.)
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To: MNJohnnie

"The President has never been any less then 100% candide about the cost and difficulty of this war"

I'd have to completely agree with this statement. Pres. Bush has always told the American public that this war would be long and hard. It irritates me everytime I hear someone giving their "interpretation" of what the President said. Especially with my son now in Baghdad for the start of a one year tour.


54 posted on 08/28/2006 4:18:04 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Father of an American Soldier)
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To: meandog

This boob must be taking leasons from lurch, he's both for it and at the same time agaonst it.


55 posted on 08/28/2006 4:35:57 PM PDT by chiefqc
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To: meandog

I have huge respect and admiration for McCain's ability to survive the Hanoi Hilton. But...

I am fed up with his Clintonesque triangulation and Senator Gadfly routine.

He does not strike me as a man with core convictions about much of anything outside the war, and his recent behavior shows that his convictions there are eroding.

I do not understand why he or anyone else continues to tell the lie that Bush said the war in general or in Iraq in particular would be easy. He has repeatedly said the opposite at every step, starting 9/12. Any comments about how it would be a cakewalk were strictly about defeating the Iraqi military, which came true. Any comments about how the Iraqi people would welcome us also came true because the vast majority did and do.

Anyone with half a brain knew that American forces and anyone pro-American would become a jihadi target, which is a bit of an advantage in that Iraq has become a Roach Motel. Anyone with same half-brain knew that surviving members of Saddam loyalists would oppose us. The level of opposition has turned out to be higher than expected but nothing in war is ever predictable. As the saying goes, "no plan of battle ever survives contact with the enemy." If you look at the history of warfare, Iraq has by comparison gone remarkably according to plan.

I know McCain is feeling heat from the willfully blind MSM, but that doesn't mean he has to cave in under it. He withstood a just a wee bit more pressure than that at the Hilton, so he can hold up under the threat of CNN/NYT smears...if he wants to. If he does cave in, then he has lost what is left of my respect for him as a senator and he can go sit in the corner with a dunce cap next to Duke Cunningham as Vietnam heroes later disgraced in their political life.


56 posted on 08/28/2006 4:56:02 PM PDT by Zhangliqun (The fetal position has yet to scare a bully.)
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To: SoldierDad
"cost...of war"

Agreed. Ever since the start of the war, I've heard critics talk about the admin saying how easy it would be. But they never produced one quote from an admin official saying as much. Because no one from the admin ever said it would be easy.

57 posted on 08/29/2006 1:37:52 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: boomop1

"I can understand how you can't see the back stabbing are you Lindsey LOL."

If it's so obvious to you, why not just rattle of a couple of examples? And not just of areas where McCain has veered from your own beliefs, I mean real backstabbing.


58 posted on 08/29/2006 5:56:14 AM PDT by zook (McCain/Giuliani/Rice--2 of the 3 in 08!)
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To: LibLieSlayer

"mcinsane is a traitor. Anyone supporting him should realize this fact! JMHO "

You should submit this for the "Nuttiest Post of the Day Award."


59 posted on 08/29/2006 5:56:58 AM PDT by zook (McCain/Giuliani/Rice--2 of the 3 in 08!)
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To: LibLieSlayer

"That is just one of his personalities. He is unstable and insane! "

I'm still waiting for an example of this, doctor.


60 posted on 08/29/2006 5:58:23 AM PDT by zook (McCain/Giuliani/Rice--2 of the 3 in 08!)
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