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Pope prepares to embrace theory of intelligent design
Guardian ^
| 08/28/06
| John Hooper
Posted on 08/28/2006 12:02:43 PM PDT by Abathar
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posted on
08/28/2006 12:02:45 PM PDT
by
Abathar
To: Abathar
Don't shoot the messenger please.....
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posted on
08/28/2006 12:03:53 PM PDT
by
Abathar
(Proudly catching hell for posting without reading the article since 2004)
To: Abathar
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posted on
08/28/2006 12:04:57 PM PDT
by
Incorrigible
(If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
To: Incorrigible
Yeah, I know. Grain of salt and all, but who knows - it might be true.
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posted on
08/28/2006 12:05:50 PM PDT
by
Abathar
(Proudly catching hell for posting without reading the article since 2004)
To: Abathar
What progressive thinking.
To: TrebleRebel
I bet the DUmmies are all over this, I might slip on my Mental Hazmat Suit and see if they are singing this from the rooftops, I bet they are.
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posted on
08/28/2006 12:07:52 PM PDT
by
Abathar
(Proudly catching hell for posting without reading the article since 2004)
To: Abathar
ID is a theory? Really? What hypothesis was tested to come up with it? How can it be further tested?
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posted on
08/28/2006 12:08:46 PM PDT
by
RonF
To: Abathar
Kinky Friedman said something like, "How can anyone believe in Intelligent Design after seeing the Texas legislature?"
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posted on
08/28/2006 12:08:53 PM PDT
by
pikachu
(Be alert --we need more lerts!)
To: Abathar
In a startling display of the power of faith to overlook contradictory data, the Holy Father will in the same statement acknowledge the existence of Democrats and affirm his belief that the universe is not the work of malevolent spirits or of mere random occurrences, but of a being who means to do us good.
In anticipation, Vatican Theologians are preparing a statement denying the Democrats really exist.
Father Guido Parolaccio, Vatican Magister Rotationis (or spin meister), said, "Yes, I have seen something that looked like a Democrat, and it even appeared to be alive. But seriously, my children, when you consider how they act, what they do, what they say, would you call that LIVING?"
Check back at the top of the hour for further developments.
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posted on
08/28/2006 12:10:23 PM PDT
by
Mad Dawg
(Reality is not optional.)
To: Abathar
And next the Dah Vinci code , right ???
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posted on
08/28/2006 12:10:35 PM PDT
by
lionheart 247365
(( I.S.L.A.M. stands for - Islams Spiritual Leaders Advocate Murder .. .. .. ))
To: Abathar
Advocates of the theory argue that some features of the universe and nature are so complex that they must have been designed by a higher intelligence. Critics say it is a disguise for creationism. I guess this is a typical 'duh factor' response for those that don't realize the intelligent designer is God.
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posted on
08/28/2006 12:11:03 PM PDT
by
demkicker
(democrats and terrorists are intimate bedfellows)
To: RonF
I like the description of the claim that the designer need not be explained not as a contribution to knowledge but as a thought-terminating cliché.
To: lionheart 247365
What? The way you say that almost leads me to believe you think that it's a work of fiction!!
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posted on
08/28/2006 12:12:29 PM PDT
by
Abathar
(Proudly catching hell for posting without reading the article since 2004)
To: Abathar
Maybe someone will finally propose a definition of it.
To: Abathar
To: Abathar
I do not believe that evolution and creationism are mutually exclusive. The Bible is more about "why" than "how" - For all we know, the divine word of God may have included doctoral theses on genetics and string theory, explained at a level that a pre-scientific culture could grasp.
Even if you follow evolution all the way back to the beginning, you don't get to nothingness...
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posted on
08/28/2006 12:18:44 PM PDT
by
LouD
To: Abathar
In his "Truth and Tolerance" the pope reminds us that the Kantian or neo-Kantian notion that we cannot know absolute truth holds sway in almost every discipline. although his Philosophy as a whole is rejected as inadequate, So Kant said a priori that we cannot "know" God or things about God. To put it another way, there can be no metaphysics. Yet men yearn for certainty, so a process like evolution, which has some similarities to Hegel's , is accepted without much examination, even though we have not fully delineated that process.
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posted on
08/28/2006 12:19:30 PM PDT
by
RobbyS
( CHIRHO)
To: Abathar; Incorrigible
Yeah, I know. Grain of salt and all, but who knows - it might be true.I thought the Guardian and the Telegraph always had the best interests of the Catholic Church at heart. No? I'm disappointed.
Here's a prediction. No definitive pronouncements one way or the other. They'll remain interested observers.
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posted on
08/28/2006 12:25:30 PM PDT
by
siunevada
(If we learn nothing from history, what's the point of having one? - Peggy Hill)
To: Abathar
The Roman Catholic Church never endorses any specific scientific theory - it only makes statements that point out specific scientific theories are untenable.
The most salient example of this was when Pope Pius XII condemned polygenism - the notion that human beings may have had different sets of ancestors. The Pope reaffirmed the truth that all human beings are descended from the same two common parents.
The Pope may condemn the notion that the universe originates in chaos and reject that sceintific theory as untenable - but he will endorse any particular scientific theory as being valid.
The Church alone has the deposit of faith - it does not outsource its magisterial authority.
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posted on
08/28/2006 12:25:43 PM PDT
by
wideawake
("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
To: demkicker
Funny how nobody asks how the higher intelligence came to be...
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posted on
08/28/2006 12:26:50 PM PDT
by
Sofa King
(A wise man uses compromise as an alternative to defeat. A fool uses it as an alternative to victory.)
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