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U.S. Poverty Rate Unchanged; More People Lack Health Insurance
AP Via Journal Sentinel ^ | August 30, 2006 | Stephen Ohlemacher

Posted on 08/30/2006 10:10:23 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin

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1 posted on 08/30/2006 10:10:24 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Primary causes of poverty:

1) Out of wedlock births
2) Kids who attend public schools often learn little, and end up dropping out
3) Minimum wage increases lock young people out of starter jobs
4) Illegal immigrants lock unskilled Americans out of jobs

Do the Dems have a plan for dealing with any of that?

2 posted on 08/30/2006 10:15:17 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The broken wall, the burning roof and tower. And Agamemnon dead.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Yes, they do. Much more of the same.

Need to increase their voter base.


3 posted on 08/30/2006 10:19:21 AM PDT by PeteB570 (Guns, what real men want for Christmas)
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To: ClearCase_guy

We fought the war on poverty, and poverty won.

Democrats started the war on poverty. Why don't Democrats step up and take responsibility for the obvious failures of the war on poverty, the way they want Bush to take take responsibility for what they perceive as a failed war on terror?


4 posted on 08/30/2006 10:20:02 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
"The poverty level differs by family size and makeup. For example, the poverty level for a family of four was $19,971 last year. For a family of two, it was $12,755."

The poverty rate is an artificial number that fails to consider benefits like Medicaid, Welfare, free school lunches, free commodities, food stamps, government housing and other benefits. Also, many people like my Mom is on Social Security benefits of about $14000 per year, but she has her house paid for and enough savings to tap into if she needs to.
Consider how many households in America have TVs, VCRs/DVD players, stereos, automobiles, computers, etc. Also, nearly 70% of Americans own their own homes. Many people below the poverty line live better in the USA than the average EU citizen.
5 posted on 08/30/2006 10:22:21 AM PDT by GeorgefromGeorgia
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

"Drive-By Media Alert!"


6 posted on 08/30/2006 10:24:08 AM PDT by talleyman (Kerry & the Surrender-Donkey Treasoncrats - trashing the troops for 40 years.)
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To: GeorgefromGeorgia

and to continue, this country became a Great country BEFORE there were such things as health insurance, welfare checks or food stamps. Is my history incorrect here?


7 posted on 08/30/2006 10:26:22 AM PDT by Paisan
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
"I know what they say about putting lipstick on a pig, but I don't see how the Bush administration can spin these numbers in their favor," said Rep. Charles Rangel, D-N.Y.

I'd like to see lipstick on THAT pig (Rangel). He's a disgusting human being.
8 posted on 08/30/2006 10:29:06 AM PDT by Enchante (There are 3 kinds of lies: Lies, Damned Lies, and Mainstream Journalism)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
We fought the war on poverty, and poverty won.

We fought the war on drugs and drugs won, too.

Let's hope the War on Terror does not bring a three-peat........

9 posted on 08/30/2006 10:30:23 AM PDT by Red Badger (Is Castro dead yet?........)
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To: GeorgefromGeorgia
Many people below the poverty line live better in the USA than the average EU citizen I recall a couple of years ago this guy in India said he would love to be in America, any country where the poor people are fat sounded pretty good.
10 posted on 08/30/2006 10:30:35 AM PDT by SF Republican
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To: Diana in Wisconsin; All
The share of people with employment-based health insurance decreased slightly, to 59.5 percent, continuing a trend that has some advocates worried about workers' ability to afford health care. -- perhaps they are just getting their health insurance someplace else, like outside the workplace.
11 posted on 08/30/2006 10:34:38 AM PDT by PDR
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To: ClearCase_guy
How about all the reasons people lack 'health insurance'..

Sure there are some who cannot afford it, but you also have those who don't need it due to:


12 posted on 08/30/2006 10:35:05 AM PDT by mnehring (http://abaraxas.blogspot.com/)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I'm sick and damned tired of hearing about the health insurance "crisis". Are we tripping over the maimed and sick on our way to work? Are there people crawling about our streets begging for health care? Spitting up blood on the steps of our hospitals?


13 posted on 08/30/2006 10:42:10 AM PDT by Jaysun (I have the body of an eighteen year old. I keep it in the fridge.)
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To: SF Republican

The poor are fat, just go by the Saturday morning free commodities handout line. Most of the people could feed a third world nation on the calories stored in their bodies.


14 posted on 08/30/2006 10:42:32 AM PDT by GeorgefromGeorgia
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Four years into an economic recovery, the number of people living in poverty has finally stopped climbing.

Do I need to read beyond the first sentence?

As poor people immigrate to the USA in large numbers, of course the number "living in poverty" has increased. But note that often the poverty stricken dependents of those immigrants still live in the old country. And it is the number of dependents that is a key factor in labeling one as "living in poverty".

A fair and balanced news article would also report that the number of upwardly mobile people who were formerly poverty sticken is rapidly increasing. The number of homeowners reaches new records every year among the demographic groups associated with poverty. (Blacks, Hispanics, single parents, single women, etc.)

A fair and balanced article would also report that it is precisely government intervention in the free market place that causes people to make the choices that they do.

When people have a choice between buying a house and paying a mortgage or buying health care, they consciously decide that buying a house is a wise choice and buying health care is a bad choice.

Housing has been a good choice because
-Interest rates were relatively low
-Immigration has created a high demand for housing which drove up the price (until the anti (illegal) immigrant rhetoric killed the real estate market.
-There is no tax on capital gains when the profit from the sale of one house to an immigrant is used to buy an even more expensive house, which is more expensive due to the trickle up demand.

Health Insurance is not a good choice.
-The taxpayer suckers will always pay for medical care. To sho the illogic of these suckers, some want to cut off illegals from this welfare but seem totally content with paying for citizens and legals. Well, as any pro-lifer knows, a baby in the womb is separate from the mother and is thus entitled to well baby care.
-The majority of the health insurance dollar does not go to doctors, nurses and other health care providers. It goes to medical malpractice insurance and all the overhead imposed on society by a busybody congress. For example, both ADA and HIPPA have been extremely expensive to society. At least ADA has actually benefitted a few disabled people, albeit at a high cost to the rest of us, and with a high cost of abuse of ADA by malingerers claiming they are disabled.

In contrast, HIPPA has cost the BlueCross/BlueShield family BILLIONS of dollars.
It has cost Aetna and the privates BILLIONS.
It has cost the HMOs BILLIONS..
It has cost Federal, state and local health Departments (taxpayers) BILLIONS..
It has cost Hospitals, nursing homes, clinics, doctors and other providers BILLIONS..
It has cost employers BILLIONS..

I have an open offer for just one person to step forward and say that his health is better due to HIPPA. The fact is that it has not improved the health of a single person for all the many BILLIONS of dollars spent.

But is has provided employment for a lot of us consultants, both here and in Bangalore.

15 posted on 08/30/2006 10:43:53 AM PDT by spintreebob
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

"It was the first year without an increase in poverty since 2000, just before President Bush took office."

_________

The AP will reach for everything. Bush is even responsible for the year BEFORE he took office.


16 posted on 08/30/2006 10:50:53 AM PDT by rightinthemiddle (Without the Media, the Left and Islamofacists are Nothing.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I see a lot of fat "poor" people with cell phones and tattoos.

What do they know that I don't know?


17 posted on 08/30/2006 10:57:56 AM PDT by D-Chivas
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To: ClearCase_guy
It is worth also noting that a certain percentage (let's say 5%) of people are unemployable. They don't show up consistently, or quit for no reason; they can't read or write; they can't speak recognizable English (the "language of commerce") or they have such a chip on their shoulders that they don't feel they have to perform, blaming their failings instead on the idea that "others", for whatever reason, have it much easier than they do. The amazing thing is not that the "poverty rate" hasn't changed...the amazing thing is how many absolute idiots we are forced to employ!
18 posted on 08/30/2006 10:58:02 AM PDT by 50sDad (ST3d: Real Star Trek 3d Chess: http://my.ohio.voyager.net/~abartmes/tactical.htm)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Another grabage articel by AP for example

It was the first year without an increase in poverty since 2000, just before President Bush took office.

The last decline in the poverty rate was in 2000, during the Clinton administration,

Bush bad...Clinton good.


19 posted on 08/30/2006 10:58:31 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (Don't you think it's interesting how death and destruction seems to happen wherever Muslims gather?)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
I always like the "XX% of people don't have health care" articles.

When I first got out of school I did not have health insurance for about 4 years. Was it because my company did not offer it? No. It was because at the time I would rather spend my extra money on beer and the ladies. It was my own damn fault, luckily now I can spend my money on all three.

Also, if health care is such a priority, why has there not been any real movement on Medical Tort reform, to bring down insurance costs effected by frivolous multimillion dollar lawsuits and bs lawyers. Oh, I know why, because the a large percentage of lawyers have the democrats in their back pockets.
20 posted on 08/30/2006 11:11:39 AM PDT by A Texan (Oderint dum metuant)
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