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Call for fertility ban for obese
BBC ^ | August 30

Posted on 08/30/2006 12:17:45 PM PDT by Bushwacker777

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To: Bushwacker777

At that point only the Muslim women would have babies.


61 posted on 08/30/2006 1:06:28 PM PDT by Spirited
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To: RebelBanker
The denominator should be height in meters squared, not cubed, according to the CDC.

No wonder the BMI doesn't make any sense. I can't see why an index for body mass should just square the the height value. If you homogeneously scale up a body, the mass should be increased proportionally to the cube of the linear scaling factor.

62 posted on 08/30/2006 1:07:09 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (u)
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To: zek157
One would hope that the BMI isn't the only measure. BTW, the skinfold method isn't a type of BMI; but it is one of the ways of direct fat measurement. Weigh scales with body fat monitors built in are better. The best is a body immersion -- something that anyone being denied this treatment should insist upon, if the other direct tests are close calls.
63 posted on 08/30/2006 1:08:15 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Paleo Conservative

What is odd is that BMI dictates that men and women have the same build and that fat and muscle mass are equally bad.


64 posted on 08/30/2006 1:09:26 PM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: cyborg; sandbar

That sounds like Slimfast or the like. I'm going to a bariatrics specialist who said those are 'bad for you.' He put me on bioidentical hormones and told me to avoid artificial sweetners and carbs.

I've dropped 5 lbs. after three weeks. I seesaw when I seesaw hubster's beers!


65 posted on 08/30/2006 1:11:00 PM PDT by Froufrou
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To: Centurion2000

it's fairly reliable if done with calipers. One size doesn't fit all simply plugging in hight and weight. We are talking about people entering a Dr's office. I doubt they are doing BMI indexes off the internet.


66 posted on 08/30/2006 1:11:01 PM PDT by zek157
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

" The best is a body immersion -- something that anyone being denied this treatment should insist upon, if the other direct tests are close calls."

of course.


67 posted on 08/30/2006 1:13:03 PM PDT by zek157
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To: hershey
The poor can't afford fresh fruits and veggies, alas.

What nonsense. I was at Walmart yesterday, and they had 5 pluots for $1, apples 3 for $1, same for kiwi, and bananas are always cheap. Squash has jumped in price, but you can buy bunches of broccoli, carrots, and roma tomatoes cheap. But all that slavish work of washing them, putting on a pot to boil, and steaming them is probably too much to ask after a tough day of scratching lotto tickets and watching Oprah.

68 posted on 08/30/2006 1:13:55 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Froufrou

That's excellent! Just tweaking the diet a little will help most anyone to lose weight. Kudos to your doctor for giving you bioidentical hormones.


69 posted on 08/30/2006 1:15:10 PM PDT by cyborg (No I don't miss the single life at all.)
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To: Paleo Conservative

Don't ask me, I think the thing is stupid too!
;-)


70 posted on 08/30/2006 1:17:12 PM PDT by RebelBanker (If you can't do something smart, do something right.)
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To: elc

To P.O. fat people who think they're being picked on.


71 posted on 08/30/2006 1:17:54 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: elc

Look at your friggin question, dumbass. Look at what I wrote.

Yeah, it's a "called for" ban, but not on the skinnies, like your question said.

Geez, you clueless fool, you don't even understand your own question!

Don't post dumb crap if you don't even have the cognitive capacity to understand a proper answer.


72 posted on 08/30/2006 1:19:55 PM PDT by Toby06
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To: Pan_Yans Wife

>>>and that fruit eaten daily curbs the appetite. >>>

Not for some hypoglocemic sensitive people. That's what gets me, people assume because something works for THEM, it surely must work for everyone.


73 posted on 08/30/2006 1:21:59 PM PDT by sandbar
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To: Centurion2000

I see fat people of all races and creeds around here... : )


74 posted on 08/30/2006 1:22:19 PM PDT by Stone Mountain
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To: weegee

>>>What is odd is that BMI dictates that men and women have the same build and that fat and muscle mass are equally bad.>>>

You are exactly right. A body builder with a 4% body fat could be 'obese' according to the BMI calculator.


75 posted on 08/30/2006 1:23:18 PM PDT by sandbar
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To: sandbar
For MOST people. I can't list all the anomalies, nor do I care to.
76 posted on 08/30/2006 1:23:46 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife ("Death is better, a milder fate than tyranny. "--Aeschylus)
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To: Paleo Conservative
A 5'4" woman who weighs 170 lbs is 1.63 m and 77 Kg. That makes a BMI of 17.8

The original post is correct: 5'4" and 170 lbs gives a BMI of 29.2. The equation uses hieght^2 not height^3.

77 posted on 08/30/2006 1:26:08 PM PDT by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: Toby06

Perhaps you should learn to articulate your arguments better jackass.

You clearly stated: “Only the obese are banned”
The article clearly states “NHS guidelines say overweight women should be warned of the health risks, but do not impose any ban on treatment.”


Seeing as the society said “Underweight women and those classed just as obese (BMI over 29) should be forced to address their weight before starting treatment, the society said” the article should also address the issues related to underweight women, not just the obese. There are many dangers to both mother and child for the severely underweight. The article does a disservice by ignoring that and concentrating on only the obese.


78 posted on 08/30/2006 1:27:34 PM PDT by elc (Feeling the babywearing love)
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To: cyborg; sandbar

Well, I wish it would work faster. I guess if I go back to vodka with soda instead of beer it would help.

I don't have bad eating habits, other than red meat. Rarely ever eat anything fried. Fast food is only salad with a vinaigrette if available, if ranch then only fork dipped and not spilled over top.

Carb diets have encouraged people to be lax in portion control, IMHO.


79 posted on 08/30/2006 1:28:15 PM PDT by Froufrou
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To: Froufrou

>>>That sounds like Slimfast or the like. I'm going to a bariatrics specialist who said those are 'bad for you.' He put me on bioidentical hormones and told me to avoid artificial sweetners and carbs. >>>

What are bioidentical hormones?

The protein shakes aren't slimfast, just plain ole protein shakes.


80 posted on 08/30/2006 1:28:20 PM PDT by sandbar
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