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So the outrageous medical welfare given to AIDS patients, teenage pregnancies with outrageous lavashing of public dollars to support them, drunk/drugged driving deaths with accidents and higher insurance rates, the lack of motivated people to develop new technologies due to drug addiction and the SSI/identity theft scams they use is not a problem for you?

It's those kind of feelings that keeps me out of the R party.

I don't believe you sanction an entire group of people because some individuals have problems. I believe you deal with those problem individuals.

If you're going to sanction all gays cuz of AIDS, or all teens cuz of pregnancy, then the next step is smokers, and fat people, and anyone doing anything unhealthy.

To my understanding, govt sanctions of such social behavior means 'politically liberal'. Govt intervention in private matters. So the modern R party is "socially C, politically L".

DWI/DUI is and should be illegal. People with addiction problems need help, not a criminal record. Except when they commit other crimes like Identity Theft, of course.

The 'contract with America' that got the Rs into power said nothing about these 'social' issues. It was about political conservatism -- spending, term limits, etc. The vast majority of Americans are politically C. But not socially C.

Now, the social C, political L folks have hijacked the R party, and are in danger of losing the gains made in the 90s.

"If you're going to sanction all gays cuz of AIDS, or all teens cuz of pregnancy, then the next step is smokers, and fat people, and anyone doing anything unhealthy."

Er, the Democrats already *have* gone after smokers... havent you noticed?

Our liberal Austin city council is now making bar owners criminals if their patrons light up in their joint.

At least the conservative viewpoint at least relates to individual responsibility, even when it is about 'social issues'.

I do not believe we can have individual freedom without individual responsibility. If you are 'live and let live' but understand that, then Republican party and conservativism can be your home. If you dont agree with individual responsibility and think people should do what they want and *not* bear logical consequences of actions, well, then, that's a different philosophy.